jbs-tom Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) ... i do not know this seller, but it is really amazing what he is selling all at once ! (check the jazz items) ebay jazz collection i think there will be much shipping traffic from italy to japan Edited December 11, 2006 by jbs-tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Amazing? Don't know ... Record collectors do die one day too, record collections tend to come up for sale here and there and every now and then, and some sellers don't let them trickle onto the market but rather get rid of them in one go. Seems to be the case both with the Jazz collection and the Garage/Psychedelic record collections that's come up here. Not a bad move on the part of the seller, by the way, to let all the records finish almost at the same time. Last-minute snipers will have a hard time sniping all that many records one after another (like they might be able to do if the auctions end at 3, 4 or 5-minute intervals, for example). So they will have to bid a bit earlier, giving others a chance to raise the bids. And let it be said once more: What this seller offers DEFINITELY is NOT an "essential Jazz collection". This is just a representative collection of hard bop-based 50s/60s Jazz records. Nice enough anyway but remember Hard Bop is just ONE of MANY facets of Jazz and certainly would not cover the entire range of styles that Jazz has to offer (even if to a lot of self-proclaimed "Jazz" fans Hard Bop is the beginning and end of it all) I for one would have been much more impressed if this particular lot had ALSO included a representative selection of "essential" records e.g. by Bob Cooper, Shorty Rogers, Art Pepper, Bud Shank, Lighthouse All Stars, etc. (not to mention the great MASTERS of Swing and Mainstream) - see? :D Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Amazing? Don't know ... Record collectors do die one day too, record collections tend to come up for sale here and there and every now and then, and some sellers don't let them trickle onto the market but rather get rid of them in one go. Seems to be the case both with the Jazz collection and the Garage/Psychedelic record collections that's come up here. Not a bad move on the part of the seller, by the way, to let all the records finish almost at the same time. Last-minute snipers will have a hard time sniping all that many records one after another (like they might be able to do if the auctions end at 3, 4 or 5-minute intervals, for example). So they will have to bid a bit earlier, giving others a chance to raise the bids. And let it be said once more: What this seller offers DEFINITELY is NOT an "essential Jazz collection". This is just a representative collection of hard bop-based 50s/60s Jazz records. Nice enough anyway but remember Hard Bop is just ONE of MANY facets of Jazz and certainly would not cover the entire range of styles that Jazz has to offer (even if to a lot of self-proclaimed "Jazz" fans Hard Bop is the beginning and end of it all) I for one would have been much more impressed if this particular lot had ALSO included a representative selection of "essential" records e.g. by Bob Cooper, Shorty Rogers, Art Pepper, Bud Shank, Lighthouse All Stars, etc. (not to mention the great MASTERS of Swing and Mainstream) - see? :D Agree with that... same old hysteria, with same esnipers, same music, same records seen a hundred times, (all are very rare, the occansion of a lifetime etc etc etc...) same japaneses / taiwanese / coreans etc... no description of the records, no picture, unpolite answers to questions '"yes mate" "nope mate !". The worst in Ebay auction is here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs-tom Posted December 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 (edited) i think we should be fair: of course there are existing thousands of even more "essential" jazz records (and by the way this topic i did not start to discuss ALL essential records on this planet), but also we must admit these are a lot jazz masterpieces in superb condition (if description is right) and all ending same time from one seller. Edited December 11, 2006 by jbs-tom Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs-tom Posted December 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 Amazing? Don't know ... Record collectors do die one day too, record collections tend to come up for sale here and there and every now and then, and some sellers don't let them trickle onto the market but rather get rid of them in one go. Seems to be the case both with the Jazz collection and the Garage/Psychedelic record collections that's come up here. Not a bad move on the part of the seller, by the way, to let all the records finish almost at the same time. Last-minute snipers will have a hard time sniping all that many records one after another (like they might be able to do if the auctions end at 3, 4 or 5-minute intervals, for example). So they will have to bid a bit earlier, giving others a chance to raise the bids. And let it be said once more: What this seller offers DEFINITELY is NOT an "essential Jazz collection". This is just a representative collection of hard bop-based 50s/60s Jazz records. Nice enough anyway but remember Hard Bop is just ONE of MANY facets of Jazz and certainly would not cover the entire range of styles that Jazz has to offer (even if to a lot of self-proclaimed "Jazz" fans Hard Bop is the beginning and end of it all) I for one would have been much more impressed if this particular lot had ALSO included a representative selection of "essential" records e.g. by Bob Cooper, Shorty Rogers, Art Pepper, Bud Shank, Lighthouse All Stars, etc. (not to mention the great MASTERS of Swing and Mainstream) - see? :D Agree with that... same old hysteria, with same esnipers, same music, same records seen a hundred times, (all are very rare, the occansion of a lifetime etc etc etc...) same japaneses / taiwanese / coreans etc... no description of the records, no picture, unpolite answers to questions '"yes mate" "nope mate !". The worst in Ebay auction is here. ... to the point "seen a hundred times": we should not make the mistake only because a record is NOT rare, it can not be essential /a masterpiece!! ´ same with the price of course: a high price is not = essential or a masterpiece Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I had my eyes on several items like: - Curtis Fuller 'Bone and Bari' - Hank Mobley Sextet - Jackie McLean 'Lights Out' and some others. All at incredible low prices The secret is out They'll all probably go for much higher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 With automated sniping programs, ending times that coincide is hardly an impediment to sniping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs-tom Posted December 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I had my eyes on several items like: - Curtis Fuller 'Bone and Bari' - Hank Mobley Sextet - Jackie McLean 'Lights Out' and some others. All at incredible low prices The secret is out They'll all probably go for much higher yeah i know sorry for that - but i thought we are a big family i will try to get the lou donaldson time is right (so stay off all others please - lost already yesterday the gene shaw lp and maybe one more, got the bennie green in mind "on the scene" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 It's OK... and I'm still an eBay virigin -_- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs-tom Posted December 11, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 It's OK... and I'm still an eBay virigin -_- that's not too bad in these times. i am on ebay since 1999, but lost all fun this year .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I'd like to bid on one or two... just for the fun, because when "rainbow mountain" or "pauls456" are interested, therE is not even the ghost of a chance ! These esnipers prevent me to even bid on items. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 11, 2006 Report Share Posted December 11, 2006 I wouldn't buy from someone I didn't trust, and this looks a little sketchy in the grading department... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patricia Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 (edited) A collection of jazz, in order to be described as essential, at least to me, would include good examples of the genre from it's inception at the turn of the last century to the present day. If it doesn't it's probably not better than the collections most of us here have now. Jazz certainly didn't start in the 1950s, although a lot of it was recorded during that decade. Most of the rare recordings come from way before that and in order to present a full view of jazz's evolution, a collection worth paying big bucks for would have examples of the entire history of jazz. So, pass. Edited December 12, 2006 by patricia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBop Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 So, what happened to the auction? No items currently listed for this seller. Nothing shown as sold since 28 November Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 The auction's gone There goes my chance to get that Mobley Sextet BN original for $10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 No picture, rude guy, no response to questions (i tried)... This seller could have been the kind of seller i used to deal with in France before Ebay... everything was dubious from the beginning. The worst of Ebay. And the worst of the worst : someone probably made the "buy it now offer" off ebay...Good riddance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs-tom Posted December 12, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 ... thats good - saves me some good money. yes think so too, someone bought the whole stuff. less work for the seller and has his money right away. but indeed looks all not very serious ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted December 12, 2006 Report Share Posted December 12, 2006 ... thats good - saves me some good money. I have the same reaction anytime i loose an auction on Ebay (and i loose 95 % of the auction i bid on ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jbs-tom Posted December 21, 2006 Author Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 look at this ! he is back incl. the reason why all auctions were closed before: blue notes ... i do not know what to think about him Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Well, i have made some bids on previous auction. But I will not bid again. Definitely fed up with this Blue Note mania. Prices are already on the Japanese scale : i'm laready off the game ! No regrets. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 I'll follow the proceedings and may jump in if the prices are reasonable! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 Wow, it's in Rome! I could spare the shipping cost and Paypal fee for the seller. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 look at this ! he is back incl. the reason why all auctions were closed before: blue notes ... i do not know what to think about him I don't care ! i have an original Candy already. Really overrated session. But who's talking about music ? its just Blue Note ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porcy62 Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 I saw a 'Private Id' bidder on most of them, BAD SIGN! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted December 21, 2006 Report Share Posted December 21, 2006 (edited) The seller wanted to improve the listings... well in that case, a photograph may help a little.. Anyway... condition ? who cares ? Its Colossus, man ! Very rare ! impossible to find the occasion of a lifetime grab it while you can i doubt you will find a better copy you will have a hard time finding another copy good luck finding another copy probably the finest copy we hever had near archival copy of this classic the vinyl is lustrous and unblemished the corners are sharp deep groove flat edge, flat groove deep edge i hate to part with it. http://cgi.ebay.com/JAZZ-LP-Sonny-Rollins-...1QQcmdZViewItem Edited December 21, 2006 by Michel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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