alankin Posted September 9, 2016 Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 And in other news, Bob Dylan has created an enormous iron public sculpture. Who knew? http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/bob-dylan-to-unveil-enormous-iron-archway-in-maryland-w438057 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted September 9, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 9, 2016 On November 14, 2015 at 8:40 PM, mjzee said: Bob Dylan is a welder and he makes big iron gates out of scrap metal Halcyon Gallery Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted September 27, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Bob Dylan to Release 36-Disc Set of 1966 Concerts http://bestclassicbands.com/bob-dylan-1966-box-set-9-27-16/ On 9/26/2015 at 0:00 PM, mjzee said: And for the same reason, I predict that next year's project will be a release of the complete 1966 tour. Boy, did I call this one, or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 Props mj! Pre-ordered a couple minutes ago. Ridiculous. Europe 72, Dylan 66, Floyd Early Years...life is spectacularly good, if a bit costly at the moment...really curious about SQ of the AUDs; but at this price, such concern is not prohibitive. wow./K Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 I ordered it today too. Wow! Amazon uk price is killer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kate Posted September 27, 2016 Report Share Posted September 27, 2016 On second thought, it's probably not worth it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3HXVn92zSk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted September 28, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 7 hours ago, jazzbo said: I ordered it today too. Wow! Amazon uk price is killer. ??? No price listed now: https://www.amazon.co.uk/1966-Live-Recordings-Bob-Dylan/dp/B01LXC8X05/ref=sr_tnr_p_1_9840746031_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1475032944&sr=8-1&keywords=B01LXC8X05 6 hours ago, Kate said: On second thought, it's probably not worth it... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C3HXVn92zSk These interviews are from the Scorsese documentary "No Direction Home." There's some live concert footage there that you should check out. Those guys interviewed were folkies who hated Dylan's electric turn. Better to judge from this: Bobby Jones is an unsung hero - very integral to the group's sound during this tour. Better suited to this material than Levon, IMHO, who rushed the beat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 28, 2016 Report Share Posted September 28, 2016 Clearly listed price now. Turns out to be about $117 after VAT is removed and with shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Price on Amazon (US) is now $128.24. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted October 7, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 7, 2016 Now $119.99. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Bob Dylan wins the 2016 Nobel Prize in Literature “for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition”. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/13/497780610/bob-dylan-titan-of-american-music-wins-the-2016-nobel-prize-in-literature Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kinuta Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 1 hour ago, alankin said: Bob Dylan wins the 2016 Nobel Prize in Literature “for having created new poetic expressions within the great American song tradition”. http://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2016/10/13/497780610/bob-dylan-titan-of-american-music-wins-the-2016-nobel-prize-in-literature Amazing, what an honour. Congratulations Mr Dylan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uli Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Congrats to Mr, Dylan! and this was my morning laugh Nate Chinen Retweeted Tom Scocca @tomscocca 2h2 hours ago Nobel Prize for Chemistry goes to Keith Richards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Someone tweeted "Welcome to peak-Boomer," which seems about right. I agree writing lyrics is writing, but I guess I am a hopeless snob and don't feel that writing lyrics measures up to writing poetry and certainly not writing novels or plays. So I am not in favor of Dylan's winning the prize and won't be celebrating it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarThrower Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 1 hour ago, ejp626 said: Someone tweeted "Welcome to peak-Boomer," which seems about right. I agree writing lyrics is writing, but I guess I am a hopeless snob and don't feel that writing lyrics measures up to writing poetry and certainly not writing novels or plays. So I am not in favor of Dylan's winning the prize and won't be celebrating it. I wouldn't doubt that Mr. Dylan is in agreement with your opinion. As he has stated in interviews when people try to put him on a pedestal of literary genius, "I'm just a songwriter" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 4 hours ago, ejp626 said: Someone tweeted "Welcome to peak-Boomer," which seems about right. I agree writing lyrics is writing, but I guess I am a hopeless snob and don't feel that writing lyrics measures up to writing poetry and certainly not writing novels or plays. So I am not in favor of Dylan's winning the prize and won't be celebrating it. Glad it's not just me thinking this. In a week of global crazy clown insanity and brexit fallout, this is up right there. Sorry ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 (edited) 2 hours ago, sidewinder said: Glad it's not just me thinking this. In a week of global crazy clown insanity and brexit fallout, this is up right there. Sorry ! Seemingly there was/is a common sentiment that Bob Dylan requiered a publicly awarded accolade - whether today`s step does him in this respect justice is (IMO) highly questionable .... of course longtime Bob Dylan followers possibly will experience this recognition also partially directed to themselves .... btw don`t get me wrong, I dig Bob Dylan and his euvre a lot - but also highly appreciate literature .... Edited October 13, 2016 by soulpope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 4 hours ago, ejp626 said: Someone tweeted "Welcome to peak-Boomer," which seems about right. I agree writing lyrics is writing, but I guess I am a hopeless snob and don't feel that writing lyrics measures up to writing poetry and certainly not writing novels or plays. So I am not in favor of Dylan's winning the prize and won't be celebrating it. You're right, you are a hopeless snob. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted October 13, 2016 Report Share Posted October 13, 2016 Whatever must Phil Ochs be thinking right now (whatever Bardo he's in / on)? Oh, and raise your hand if you've read TARANTULA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 On 10/13/2016 at 9:07 AM, ejp626 said: Someone tweeted "Welcome to peak-Boomer," which seems about right. I agree writing lyrics is writing, but I guess I am a hopeless snob and don't feel that writing lyrics measures up to writing poetry and certainly not writing novels or plays. So I am not in favor of Dylan's winning the prize and won't be celebrating it. If "Chimes of Freedom" and "My Back Pages" aren't poetry, I don't know what is. And he spoke to/for a (my) generation. Chimes of Freedom Bob Dylan Far between sundown's finish an' midnight's broken toll We ducked inside the doorway, thunder crashing As majestic bells of bolts struck shadows in the sounds Seeming to be the chimes of freedom flashing Flashing for the warriors whose strength is not to fight Flashing for the refugees on the unarmed road of flight An' for each an' ev'ry underdog soldier in the night An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing Through the city's melted furnace, unexpectedly we watched With faces hidden as the walls were tightening As the echo of the wedding bells before the blowin' rain Dissolved into the bells of the lightning Tolling for the rebel, tolling for the rake Tolling for the luckless, the abandoned an' forsakened Tolling for the outcast, burnin' constantly at stake An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing Through the mad mystic hammering of the wild ripping hail The sky cracked its poems in naked wonder That the clinging of the church bells blew far into the breeze Leaving only bells of lightning and its thunder Striking for the gentle, striking for the kind Striking for the guardians and protectors of the mind An' the poet and the painter far behind his rightful time An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing In the wild cathedral evening the rain unraveled tales For the disrobed faceless forms of no position Tolling for the tongues with no place to bring their thoughts All down in taken-for-granted situations Tolling for the deaf an' blind, tolling for the mute For the mistreated, mateless mother, the mistitled prostitute For the misdemeanor outlaw, chaineded an' cheated by pursuit An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing Even though a cloud's white curtain in a far-off corner flared An' the hypnotic splattered mist was slowly lifting Electric light still struck like arrows, fired but for the ones Condemned to drift or else be kept from drifting Tolling for the searching ones, on their speechless, seeking trail For the lonesome-hearted lovers with too personal a tale An' for each unharmful, gentle soul misplaced inside a jail An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing Starry-eyed an' laughing as I recall when we were caught Trapped by no track of hours for they hanged suspended As we listened one last time an' we watched with one last look Spellbound an' swallowed 'til the tolling ended Tolling for the aching whose wounds cannot be nursed For the countless confused, accused, misused, strung-out ones an' worse An' for every hung-up person in the whole wide universe An' we gazed upon the chimes of freedom flashing My Back Pages Bob Dylan Crimson flames tied through my ears, rollin' high and mighty traps Pounced with fire on flaming roads using ideas as my maps "We'll meet on edges, soon, " said I, proud 'neath heated brow Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now Half-wracked prejudice leaped forth, "rip down all hate, " I screamed Lies that life is black and white spoke from my skull, I dreamed Romantic facts of musketeers foundationed deep, somehow Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now Girls' faces formed the forward path from phony jealousy To memorizing politics of ancient history Flung down by corpse evangelists, unthought of, though somehow Ah, but I was so much older then. I'm younger than that now A self-ordained professor's tongue too serious to fool Spouted out that liberty is just equality in school "Equality, " I spoke the word as if a wedding vow Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now In a soldier's stance, I aimed my hand at the mongrel dogs who teach Fearing not that I'd become my enemy in the instant that I preach My existence led by confusion boats, mutiny from stern to bow Ah, but I was so much older then, I'm younger than that now Yes, my guard stood hard when abstract threats too noble to neglect Deceived me into thinking I had something to protect Good and bad, I define these terms quite clear, no doubt, somehow Ah, but I was so much older then I'm younger than that now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 On 10/13/2016 at 9:36 AM, StarThrower said: I wouldn't doubt that Mr. Dylan is in agreement with your opinion. As he has stated in interviews when people try to put him on a pedestal of literary genius, "I'm just a songwriter" agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted October 14, 2016 Author Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 I've read Tarantula. Not sure I made it to the end. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 This is the prize invented by the guy who invented dynamite or something, right? I've dug enough of Dylan enough of the time to see why this award might feel "appropriate"...not sure if it actually is or not, but what's done is done. I do wonder, though, if "songwriting" was a true equivalency to "literature" or even "poetry", is that something that just now happened? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rostasi Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 My disgust with Dylan has been made very clear on these pages, so I'll just say that I prefer all the originals to the plagiarized ones. The church songs and "Negro spirituals," the Scottish folk tunes, the English folk tunes, Confederate poets, and our very own folkies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OliverM Posted October 14, 2016 Report Share Posted October 14, 2016 (edited) I fail to see the contradiction. While Dylan has kept songwriting as a "minor genre" though having a heroic tradition, his songs can also be appreciated from a literary point of view even if this exceeds sometimes the intentions of the singer/composer. Literature resides maybe more in the act of writing than in the fixed forms one recognizes (poetry, the novel, plays, etc.), and silent reading is only the most recent form of appreciating litterature, it doesn't have to and wasn't always that way. Relations of words that stick with you and work on you, that is at the core. Anyway, I will be curious to hear his allocution. Edited October 14, 2016 by OliverM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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