PHILLYQ Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 I'm going straight off memory here, but didn't he play some elctric bass on one of his own recordings? I THINK it may have been 'Uptown Conversation' or something close to that... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 I'm going straight off memory here, but didn't he play some electric bass on one of his own recordings? I THINK it may have been 'Uptown Conversation' or something close to that... The instrument is listed for 4 of the 7 tracks on that LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donald petersen Posted July 11, 2007 Report Share Posted July 11, 2007 there is also wild horses rock steady from a few yeard before higher ground but it isn't as good...it is more CTI produced with strings and many musicians involved for no good reason. and no joe henderson. joe henderson brings it on higher ground. i'm telling you-if you like those interminable hubbard CTI blowouts, you will really like higher ground. joe henderson...george benson...hammond...they bring it. except for a moment during higher ground the song where mr. hammond sort of disappears, leaving comping duties to bob james on e-piano which is fine but it's weird hammond just isn't there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMP Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Is he playing in tune? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 g_D no! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Didn't Carter play the electric bass on Gil Scott Heron's The Revolution Will Not Be Televised? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris olivarez Posted July 12, 2007 Report Share Posted July 12, 2007 Gato Barbieri "Yesterdays" which is now part of a compliation called "Third World Revisited". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fent99 Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Gato Barbieri "Yesterdays" which is now part of a compliation called "Third World Revisited". Thats it! The RCA issue I have has pretty scant info Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ep1str0phy Posted July 13, 2007 Report Share Posted July 13, 2007 Didn't Carter play the electric bass on Gil Scott Heron's The Revolution Will Not Be Televised? Pretty sure that's right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold_Z Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Didn't Carter play the electric bass on Gil Scott Heron's The Revolution Will Not Be Televised? Pretty sure that's right. I remembering it as Jerry Jemmott. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ep1str0phy Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 I just took a look at a CD reissue of the Flying Dutchman Pieces of a Man, and Ron is the only bass player listed (the sleeve is a reproduction of the LP interior). "Revolution" is on that one, so I guess that's it (unless there's some info missing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold_Z Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 (edited) I just took a look at a CD reissue of the Flying Dutchman Pieces of a Man, and Ron is the only bass player listed (the sleeve is a reproduction of the LP interior). "Revolution" is on that one, so I guess that's it (unless there's some info missing). I don't have any of Gil's stuff either on cd or lp, but I took a look at cd universe and came up with this: Scott-Heron, Gil - Revolution Will Not Be Televised CD Cover Art Large Front Revolution Will Not Be Televised CD Gil Scott-Heron 4 stars Our Price: $9.65 Add to Cart Add to Wish List Availability:Usually ships in 1-2 days Format: CD Email a Friend Detailed Information List Price $11.98 (You save $2.33) Category Rock/Pop, Rock, Jazz, Soul/R&B, Jazz Vocals, Contemporary Jazz Vocals Label Bluebird RCA (USA) Orig Year 1974 All Time Sales Rank 10507 CDU Part# 1111268 Catalog# 6994 Discs 1 Street Date Oct 25, 1990 Studio/Live Studio Mono/Stereo Stereo Producer Bob Thiele; Joe Lopes Engineer Bob Simpson Personnel Bernard Purdie Brian Jackson - piano Burt Jones - guitar Charlie Saunders - percussion David Spinozza Eddie Knowles Gerry Jemmott Gil Scott-Heron - vocals, various instruments Hubert Laws Ron Carter - bass instrument Also: Bernard Purdie, On that particular track (revolution), which is really about the only track I heard on that - and it's been a while - my money is on Jemmott. I'm sure it's him. The sound is clear and defined. It's Gerry's sound. A Fender jazz bass with the bridge pickup mixed in for definition., For a reference check Gerry on BB King's "The Thrill Is Gone"album. Ron's electric sound is not as defined (check "Sugar".) Edited July 14, 2007 by Harold_Z Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 during that session Carter was complaining about all the electric instruments - he said "everything's electric - the organ, the guitar, this bass; and you think it's easy to play this damn electric bass? It's so heavy, do you think anybody might care enough to get me something so I can sit down?" so they got him an electric chair - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 Ron does NOT play electric bass on "Sugar" its DI'ed acoustic bass. I just looked at the "Pieces of A Man" CD booklet, Jerry Jemmott is not listed in the credits. It just says "Ron Carter: bass and electric bass". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donald petersen Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 carter plays some e-bass on charles earland's "kharma" album. only on a song or two. nothing to get hard over. actually one of the songs he appears on is pretty nice. i think part II of the dr. king suite or whatever. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 I'd be loathe to question Harold Z too much on this type thing, y'all. The cat's a "been there done that" type player who's got ears that most of us don't when it comes to not only player's live sounds, but also player's recorded sounds & how they can be varied based on engineering, production, etc. If he says it's Jemmott, I'm going to need more that a CD booklet to convince me otherwise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ep1str0phy Posted July 14, 2007 Report Share Posted July 14, 2007 I'll trust that Harold is right, as I certainly don't have a firm hold on the area in question and liner notes can easily be wrong. This would mean, however, that the Pieces liners are wrong, and I'd hope that someone could verify to that effect (discographically?). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted July 18, 2007 Report Share Posted July 18, 2007 It must be awkward for a guy accustomed to a bass fiddle to switch to a bass guitar - playing sideways instead of upright. I feel this way cos I recently got a bass guitar myself. (!) Considering how wonderful Ron's bass fiddle sound is, it is a waste to have him on an electric. Ironically, he didn't like it when Miles made him switch to electric (for the Kilimanjaro album), and that was one reason why he left Miles's group. So what does Miles do? He hires Dave Holland, and Dave plays acoustic! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Considering how wonderful Ron's bass fiddle sound is ... ... but with those awful pickups it rarely sounds as wonderful. I have only two adequate recordings: - Michel Sardaby's "Voyage" from 1984, and audiophile recording with just one pair of mics, on the French Harmonic label - Johnny Griffin's "The Kerry Dancers" on Riverside (the OJC CD might still be around) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 When looking up Johnny Lytle sessions this morning I found Carter plays electric on Lytle's Milestone LP "The Soulful Rebel". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 Ron Carter plays electric bass throughout 'Fenix', Gato Barbieri's album on Flying Dutchman from 1971. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harold_Z Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 It must be awkward for a guy accustomed to a bass fiddle to switch to a bass guitar - playing sideways instead of upright. I feel this way cos I recently got a bass guitar myself. (!) Considering how wonderful Ron's bass fiddle sound is, it is a waste to have him on an electric. Ironically, he didn't like it when Miles made him switch to electric (for the Kilimanjaro album), and that was one reason why he left Miles's group. So what does Miles do? He hires Dave Holland, and Dave plays acoustic! Richard Davis used to hold the Fender vertically. It was (I guess) more comfortable to him like that. He's another guy, like Ron, who hated playing Fender, but would do record dates on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest donald petersen Posted July 19, 2007 Report Share Posted July 19, 2007 mike i mentioned the lytle album pages ago. decent album. richard davis had a better e-bass sound than carter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chris olivarez Posted July 20, 2007 Report Share Posted July 20, 2007 Gato Barbieri "Yesterdays" which is now part of a compliation called "Third World Revisited". Thats it! The RCA issue I have has pretty scant info Thanks Your welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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