Niko Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 ok, i need help too: i gave my copy of that !!excellent!! Jazz in Paris Barney Wilen disc that has Milt Jackson on piano to a friend several years ago who probably already didn't know where it was before he moved out from his girlfriend recently (and supposedly has long forgotten about it) - should i bother to ask him (which most likely just has the effect of making him feel bad) or simply forget about it and get a new copy? (probably not what MG is looking for?! - it has the Modern Jazz Quartet with Barney Wilen minus John Lewis, Milt Jackson in Lewis place and i loved it...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 15, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Reverence and Compassion The Prophet Speaks Neither of these show up on Amazon UK. Are they available? Or just on obscure labels? MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 ok, i need help too: i gave my copy of that !!excellent!! Jazz in Paris Barney Wilen disc that has Milt Jackson on piano to a friend several years ago who probably already didn't know where it was before he moved out from his girlfriend recently (and supposedly has long forgotten about it) - should i bother to ask him (which most likely just has the effect of making him feel bad) or simply forget about it and get a new copy? (probably not what MG is looking for?! - it has the Modern Jazz Quartet with Barney Wilen minus John Lewis, Milt Jackson in Lewis place and i loved it...) Just make sure you don't end up spending the rest of your days without it, it's too good to miss! Nothing else I can add... don't have much Bags yet, myself. brownie: the two Prestiges, the first is the Milt Jackson Quartet, I assume (I have it and find it... subdued on good days, boring on bad... it's a late night disc, to me, very quiet and all), but what's the second one? (And then I assume all the other OJCs were done for Riverside and later Pablo?) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 brownie: the two Prestiges, the first is the Milt Jackson Quartet, I assume (I have it and find it... subdued on good days, boring on bad... it's a late night disc, to me, very quiet and all), but what's the second one? (And then I assume all the other OJCs were done for Riverside and later Pablo?) There's 'Soul Pioneers' with Horace Silver and then there is the session with trumpet player Henri Boozier, Silver, Percy Heath and Klook that is on an earlier Prestige album where the session is one side, with the MJQ on the other side. Great version of 'Opus de Funk' there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Yeah, but this one's on Prestige, too: It's this one I feel ambiguous about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Ubu, that's the original cover of the 'Soul Pioneers'! The later cover was this one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Ah, now I understand! I thought there was a third album... I guess I should check out the other one then, eventually! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Big fan of his Kosei Nenkin sides on Pablo, with Cedar Walton and Teddy Edwards. In fact, most of his Pablo stuff is very good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Englewood Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 Mr Goldberg, if you would like a quick and easy way to get a whole load of early Bags, including some of the Prestige and Savoy recordings and, as you are in the U.K., it should be easy to pick up, I can recommend this one; Yes, I know it's a Proper Set and there will more than likely be the usual blah, blah blah, but there is loads there, the notes and sound quality are very good also. Bags of Soul Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 so "cherry" is a good one? it has intrigued me but i haven't pulled the trigger yet. It works for me! The combination of 70's Bags and Stan is a good one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted October 15, 2007 Report Share Posted October 15, 2007 (edited) Reverence and Compassion The Prophet Speaks Neither of these show up on Amazon UK. Are they available? Or just on obscure labels? MG MG: those two are on Quest. Quincy Jones' label. Check here, MG: SSM Edited October 15, 2007 by marcello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 16, 2007 Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Big fan of his Kosei Nenkin sides on Pablo, with Cedar Walton and Teddy Edwards. In fact, most of his Pablo stuff is very good. I like Teddy a lot, in fact I've had this one (these two now, in the CD age) on my wishlist ever since reading my first books on jazz (Arrigo Polillo's and J.E. Berendt's books they were, the later of whom recommends this one in his short list of recommended listening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted October 16, 2007 Author Report Share Posted October 16, 2007 Reverence and Compassion The Prophet Speaks Neither of these show up on Amazon UK. Are they available? Or just on obscure labels? MG MG: those two are on Quest. Quincy Jones' label. Check here, MG: SSM Ah, did Q produce these? It looks as if "The prophet speaks" has recently been reissued in Britain, but only as a download - and very expensive, in my view. Otherwise, second hand cassettes (!) are being offered at about $56!!!!! "Reverence" can be obtained from some British firm, but that's not cheap. I'm giving up on imports for a bit because Customs seem to have a down on me and even small packages are being stopped. Since the Post Office charges a flat rate of $16 to collect even a couple of dollars customs dues (OUT-FUCKING-RAGEOUS!!!!), the price of imports is becoming as prohibitive as that of UK albums. But thanks for your help. I'll keep these in mind. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Any fans of Jackson's work on Impulse? (How many did he make?) I haven't heard any of those records. Always wondered about the samba album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 I like this one: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 I heard the Samba one as a Japanese import and wasn't blown away, but if its a style you enjoy, I'd say go for it. That's The Way It Is is the best Impulse, imo. Teddy Edwards and Ray Brown = superb music. There's another LP of material from the same gig, The Way It Had To Be, but I don't think it was ever issued on CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 (edited) ok, i need help too: i gave my copy of that !!excellent!! Jazz in Paris Barney Wilen disc that has Milt Jackson on piano to a friend several years ago who probably already didn't know where it was before he moved out from his girlfriend recently (and supposedly has long forgotten about it) - should i bother to ask him (which most likely just has the effect of making him feel bad) or simply forget about it and get a new copy? (probably not what MG is looking for?! - it has the Modern Jazz Quartet with Barney Wilen minus John Lewis, Milt Jackson in Lewis place and i loved it...) Oh, yea! As I recall, that is the one where Bags plays two-four fingered piano as if he is using mallets. And he swings LIKE HELL. A killer! Edited April 17, 2008 by John L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Any fans of Jackson's work on Impulse? (How many did he make?) I haven't heard any of those records. Always wondered about the samba album. I have Just The Way It Had to Be, on LP, it's an excellent live date from Shelley's Manne Hole in 1969, with Teddy Edwards, Ray Brown and Monty Alexander. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted April 17, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 I heard the Samba one as a Japanese import and wasn't blown away, but if its a style you enjoy, I'd say go for it. That's The Way It Is is the best Impulse, imo. Teddy Edwards and Ray Brown = superb music. There's another LP of material from the same gig, The Way It Had To Be, but I don't think it was ever issued on CD. Yes - great music. The Kosei Nenkin CDs (two double length CDs from one or two nights in Tokyo) are also sensational - Milt, Teddy, Cedar, Ray Brown, Higgins. And all on top form! Phew! MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel1969 Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Any fans of Jackson's work on Impulse? (How many did he make?) I haven't heard any of those records. Always wondered about the samba album. I have Just The Way It Had to Be, on LP, it's an excellent live date from Shelley's Manne Hole in 1969, with Teddy Edwards, Ray Brown and Monty Alexander. Big fan of "statements" here ! It is a KILLER session. Everyone should listen to it. There's a song called "A Thrill from the Blues" which is one of my all time favourite jazz track...its groovy, its funky, its intelligent...And the rest of the record is brilliant as well ! RVG recording, ENORMOUS sound. You can buy it right away !!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BruceH Posted April 23, 2008 Report Share Posted April 23, 2008 Any fans of Jackson's work on Impulse? (How many did he make?) I haven't heard any of those records. Always wondered about the samba album. I have Just The Way It Had to Be, on LP, it's an excellent live date from Shelley's Manne Hole in 1969, with Teddy Edwards, Ray Brown and Monty Alexander. Big fan of "statements" here ! It is a KILLER session. Everyone should listen to it. There's a song called "A Thrill from the Blues" which is one of my all time favourite jazz track...its groovy, its funky, its intelligent...And the rest of the record is brilliant as well ! RVG recording, ENORMOUS sound. You can buy it right away !!!!!!! Sounds like a must. I loves me some Milt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 I heard the Samba one as a Japanese import and wasn't blown away, but if its a style you enjoy, I'd say go for it. That's The Way It Is is the best Impulse, imo. Teddy Edwards and Ray Brown = superb music. There's another LP of material from the same gig, The Way It Had To Be, but I don't think it was ever issued on CD. Yes - great music. The Kosei Nenkin CDs (two double length CDs from one or two nights in Tokyo) are also sensational - Milt, Teddy, Cedar, Ray Brown, Higgins. And all on top form! Phew! MG both of those are finally on the way to me! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Englewood Posted April 29, 2008 Report Share Posted April 29, 2008 Got this myself from Mr Tannio recently: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted April 30, 2008 Report Share Posted April 30, 2008 I have never heard a Milt recording that I didn't like. He's been one of my top favorite players ever since a neighbor came around with a copy of "Bags and Trane" for my young ears to hear. Always very soulful. To answer one question, "The Jazz and Samba" (Impulse) is a fantastic album. I have the LP, but the jewel case Japanese CD, which would now be very hard to find, has superb sound. The opening, where Richard Davis kicks straight in, is an unforgettable music moment. To get Richard with Milt is a huge bonus. And Milt is with a favorite side-kick, Jimmy Heath, so the sessions are very relaxed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaft Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 My favourite Milt has always been the excellent "Soul Fusion" (PABLO) with Monty Alexander, Jeff Hamilton and John Clayton. http://www.amazon.com/Soul-Fusion-Jackson-...1857&sr=8-6 It stands up to any Milt you will ever hear and the band swings like crazy! /Shaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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