John L Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) I don't think Adams/Pullen, Arthur Blythe and Billy Harper could be considered late-60's post-bop. Billy might have shown up on a few recordings (Blakey, Gil Evans, etc.), but he is pretty much 70's and beyond. Good point. I guess that I was thinking of "late-60s post bop" in musical, as opposed to chronological, terms. A lot of 70s post bop was a continuation of late-60s post bop. P.S. Arthur Blythe's recordings with Horace Tapscott were late-60s proper. Edited January 11, 2008 by John L Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 and not to forget the previously unissued material (other than on the brown bag twofer) on Andrew Hill's first Mosaic Select box. I'd also put much of that in the post-bop/free category. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Guys , the thread started with a solicitation for recommendations of things available at the iTunes store . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MartyJazz Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Two great recordings from the late '60s that I'm not sure have been released in their totality are the two that John Carter and Bobby Bradford made together for Bob Thiele's Flying Dutchman Label. The first "Flight for Four" had most, but not all, of its tracks reissued on a Novus CD titled "West Coast Hot" that also contained material by Horace Tapscott. The second, "Self Determination Music" has not been reissued in the US to my knowledge. Very exciting music! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poetrylover3 Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 McCoy Tyner: Expansions. An outstanding McCoy release. The Mosaic Select box is well worth the money, IMO. Wayne Shorter's late 60s Blue Note Releases Peace, Blue Trane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 anybody mention Booker Ervin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMP Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Even though it's from April, 1970, you might want to give Roy Brooks' "The Free Slave" a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shawn Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Even though it's from April, 1970, you might want to give Roy Brooks' "The Free Slave" a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 Even though it's from April, 1970, you might want to give Roy Brooks' "The Free Slave" a try. That record is serious business! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montg Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 How's the Kenny Cox Blue Note Conn? I was considering picking it up, the sound samples are interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 I have Multidirection and like it a lot; haven't heard the first one but I'm sure it's great as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 11, 2008 Report Share Posted January 11, 2008 (edited) The Kenny Cox stuff is good, and might sound better today than it probably did then. The "influences" are pretty obvious, but that's not as much an issue these days. Myself, I'd say there's more "important" and/or "better" music made from this time, but when it comes to saying that you should bypass/ignore the Cox BNs because of that, I'll not do it. Edited January 11, 2008 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 I have Multidirection and like it a lot; haven't heard the first one but I'm sure it's great as well. I think it's even better ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 You just had to say that, didn't you... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 You just had to say that, didn't you... I think it is - sounds a bit 'fresher' to my ears and some very good compositions on the album (in a style quite similar to the Miles davis Quintet of the time) but with a definite 'Detroit' edge. Me likes ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kyo Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 The Kenny Cox Connoisseur is awesome! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted January 12, 2008 Report Share Posted January 12, 2008 Interesting about Kenny Cox. This is the first I've heard of him. Definitely want to check this out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Ok, I need to know how I can get a hold of that Bill Barron Motivation LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 13, 2008 Report Share Posted January 13, 2008 Chuck has hundreds of copies, apparently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 back a ways here someone (Bill Barton?) mentioned the Bill Barron Savoys - there's one in particular in which he goes head-to-head with Booker Ervin - wow! I knew Barron a little when he was at Wesleyan (middle 1980s?) and when I complimented him on this session he was very flattered - for all the braininess of his own writing, he was a helluva tenor in just a blowing situation - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 back a ways here someone (Bill Barton?) mentioned the Bill Barron Savoys - there's one in particular in which he goes head-to-head with Booker Ervin - wow! I knew Barron a little when he was at Wesleyan (middle 1980s?) and when I complimented him on this session he was very flattered - for all the braininess of his own writing, he was a helluva tenor in just a blowing situation - Title? Availability? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 back a ways here someone (Bill Barton?) mentioned the Bill Barron Savoys - there's one in particular in which he goes head-to-head with Booker Ervin - wow! I knew Barron a little when he was at Wesleyan (middle 1980s?) and when I complimented him on this session he was very flattered - for all the braininess of his own writing, he was a helluva tenor in just a blowing situation - Title? Availability? It's called Hot Line: It's been available in Japan, but you might want to consider the 1896 American LP reissue , which adds a cut. Hot Line is a fine album indeed, not least for the way that Andrew Cyrille handle's Barron's quirky-ish compositions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 back a ways here someone (Bill Barton?) mentioned the Bill Barron Savoys - there's one in particular in which he goes head-to-head with Booker Ervin - wow! I knew Barron a little when he was at Wesleyan (middle 1980s?) and when I complimented him on this session he was very flattered - for all the braininess of his own writing, he was a helluva tenor in just a blowing situation - Title? Availability? It's called Hot Line: It's been available in Japan, but you might want to consider the 1896 American LP reissue , which adds a cut. Hot Line is a fine album indeed, not least for the way that Andrew Cyrille handle's Barron's quirky-ish compositions. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 The Kenny Cox reissue very much fits but I am not at all certain that Manhattan Fever belongs in the "advanced hard bop" the originator of the thread is seeking. IMHO, pretty generic, if well-played hard bop, it could have been recorded five or ten years earlier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 14, 2008 Report Share Posted January 14, 2008 It's been available in Japan, but you might want to consider the 1896 American LP reissue , which adds a cut. That would be an cylinder reissue, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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