Hot Ptah Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 I may be the only one here with this opinion, but "Blue Hour" puts me to sleep every time. Never made it through more that 2-3 cuts, at most. (Bonus disc too for the most part, though not as much as the first disc.) You are not the only one here with that opinion. In general, I am somewhat mystified at the adulation showered on Turrentine here. I like him O.K., but he was not that interesting a player in my humble opinion. He was good, not great. He gets a lot more love on this forum than many more significant artists, again in my humble opinion. I know that many do not agree with me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soul Stream Posted August 11, 2008 Report Share Posted August 11, 2008 That's Where It's At is WAAAAY up on the list too. I remember a conversation I had years ago with a pianist who played in the one o'clock lab band at North Texas State.... I brought up Stanley Turrentine, and I'll always remember the guy said, "Well, we don't really consider him a jazz musician." That pretty much sealed the deal on my attitude towards many post 70's schooled jazz musicians. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) That's Where It's At is WAAAAY up on the list too. I remember a conversation I had years ago with a pianist who played in the one o'clock lab band at North Texas State.... I brought up Stanley Turrentine, and I'll always remember the guy said, "Well, we don't really consider him a jazz musician." That pretty much sealed the deal on my attitude towards many post 70's schooled jazz musicians. That's alright. Based on what I've heard by the One O'Clock Lab Band on KNTU, I don't consider them to be jazz musicians, either. OH yeah, and another BIG vote for That's Where It's At! Cool cover, smokin' tunes, another one you can't go wrong with! Edited August 12, 2008 by Big Al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blajay Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 Just spun Rough N' Tumble BST 84240 (Stereo BN Liberty) with Blue Mitchell, James Spaulding, Pepper Adams, Grant Green, McCoy Tyner, Bob Cranshaw, Mickey Roker I enjoy the album, but Turrentine's playing does bore me a little bit every now and then, so I hear what Rooster Ties and Hot Ptah are saying. He reminds me of a watered down Clifford Jordan on this session--still hot sometimes, though--especially with that supporting cast. Tyner is nice, of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I first noticed him on "Back at the Chicken Shack", then again several years later on his own "Up at Minton's", and then again a third time, a while later, on Reece's wonderful "Star Bright"! Funny, his playing on "Star Bright" never caught my attention. yeah... I mixed it up with should have been Duke Jordan's wonderful "Flight to Jordan" (with Reece in the frontline) - my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 I first noticed him on "Back at the Chicken Shack", then again several years later on his own "Up at Minton's", and then again a third time, a while later, on Reece's wonderful "Star Bright"! Funny, his playing on "Star Bright" never caught my attention. I think I first noticed him on Comin' On as well. The sessions with the Three Sounds are also par excellence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andybleaden Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 For me it has to be the Mintons Lps which I had on japanese lp for years before the 2 cd doubletime issue came out which I played and played Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshurman Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 (edited) Don't forget "Midnight Special" with Jimmy Smith too. I wouldn't put it right at the top but I've always had a soft spot for "Chip Off The Old Block." Edited August 12, 2008 by rshurman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 A warm welcome to Dick Shurman - I'm assuming that's who you are - blues scholar, collector, producer, friend to numerous musicians. Hope you'll stick around and join the camaraderie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregN Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 A warm welcome to Dick Shurman - I'm assuming that's who you are - blues scholar, collector, producer, friend to numerous musicians. Hope you'll stick around and join the camaraderie. Hey Dick, there is also a Hammond Zone sub forum here! Great to see you in these here parts. g Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rshurman Posted August 12, 2008 Report Share Posted August 12, 2008 A warm welcome to Dick Shurman - I'm assuming that's who you are - blues scholar, collector, producer, friend to numerous musicians. Hope you'll stick around and join the camaraderie. Busted (by a longtime Juke Blues subscriber), thanks. You left out "major organ freak." This looks like a nice place and excellent resource. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I first noticed him on "Back at the Chicken Shack", then again several years later on his own "Up at Minton's", and then again a third time, a while later, on Reece's wonderful "Star Bright"! Funny, his playing on "Star Bright" never caught my attention. I think I first noticed him on Comin' On as well. The sessions with the Three Sounds are also par excellence. ok ok, I don't get what's so hilarious about me mixing up two albums - or is that some kind of language joke that I don't get or what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 My fave Stanley leader or co-leader albums are (alphabetical order) Don't mess with Mr T - CTI Hip soul - Prestige Hustlin' - BN Ruff n tumble - BN Sugar - CTI That's where it's at - BN ZT's blues - BN (which I think is my all time favourite) Fave sideman dates would be Gene Harris trio plus one - Concord Jazz Les McCann in New York - PJ (with FRANK HAYNES & Blue Mitchell - I mean, really) Horace Parlan - On the spur of the moment - BN Horace Silver - Serenade to a soul sister - BN Jimmy Smith - Midnight special/Back at the Chicken Shack - BN Jimmy Smith - The fourmost/The fourmost return - Milestone Favourite individual track is "Think", from "Soul song" - Atlantic (nominally led by Shirley). MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Second, third...these recommendations: That's Where its At and Parlan's On the Spur of the Moment. Also, Stan the Man on Time is very good too. ps: I always thought the Turrentine brothers made an excellent team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 ps: I always thought the Turrentine brothers made an excellent team. You got THAT right, especially when they were backed by the Horace Parlan "Us Three" Trio. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 I first noticed him on "Back at the Chicken Shack", then again several years later on his own "Up at Minton's", and then again a third time, a while later, on Reece's wonderful "Star Bright"! Funny, his playing on "Star Bright" never caught my attention. I think I first noticed him on Comin' On as well. The sessions with the Three Sounds are also par excellence. ok ok, I don't get what's so hilarious about me mixing up two albums - or is that some kind of language joke that I don't get or what? Chuck just made the comment that he didn't notice Stanley's playing on SB because he's not on that album; Hank Mobley is. It was Chuck's comment that was funny, not your confusion. At least, that's how I read it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Another big favorite by this "not a jazz musican" ( ) is "Back at the Chicken Shack". Glad it was mentioned above. That was my intro to Jimmy Smith, and one of the first albums by Stanley that I ever heard. Stan is heavily featured, and he goes very well with Smith and Kenny Burrell, making it by far my favorite Smith album. I like it way more than "The Sermon". Here's another indication of the stature and power of Stan. On September 4, 1964, he recorded with McCoy Tyner and Elvin Jones, then of course in their forceful prime as Trane's rhythm section. (Session later released as "Mr Natural", BN LT 1075). The liner note writer pointed out how Stan made them sound different and conform to what he was doing. Yes, this attests to the professionalism and versatility of Tyner and Jones, but nevertheless the writer had a point. Would YOU like to have stepped in front of them at that time and made them sound very different? Elvin, especially, changes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Here's another indication of the stature and power of Stan. On September 4, 1964, he recorded with McCoy Tyner and Elvin Jones, then of course in their forceful prime as Trane's rhythm section. (Session later released as "Mr Natural", BN LT 1075). The liner note writer pointed out how Stan made them sound different and conform to what he was doing. Yes, this attests to the professionalism and versatility of Tyner and Jones, but nevertheless the writer had a point. Would YOU like to have stepped in front of them at that time and made them sound very different? Elvin, especially, changes. Good point! Grant Green recorded with them in May and June 1964 and DIDN'T make them sound different. (But maybe that was intentional - they did record "My favourite things" on "Matador" which was an incredibly brave thing to do, when you think about it.) MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 A conversation between some of my good friends might sound "different" than a conversation between some of my other good friends, but they're both still conversations between good friends. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted August 14, 2008 Report Share Posted August 14, 2008 Forgot Stan was on Reece's Comin' On-think I'll spin that right now! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Yes, Musa Kalim is a hell of a lot easier to remember... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 That's Where It's At is the best ST-led album I've heard. The Spoiler is a nice one too. However, my favorite work with ST in on the two famous Jimmy Smith albums. Guy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son-of-a-Weizen Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 If Soul Station is reading this....no, I still haven't cracked open the Stan Mosaic box. I side with Andy on the Mintons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 Yes, Musa Kalim is a hell of a lot easier to remember... Forgot he was on the album too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted August 15, 2008 Report Share Posted August 15, 2008 can't decide which is my fav ST session, but "ThinK" may be my fav cut, but then I love the 5 Royales and love to hear stan play the hits (release "Georgy Girl" nd "Up, Up & Away" now!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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