Albert Mangelsdorff - MPS reissues

[king ubu]

In time for the 80th birthday of Albert Mangelsdorff (Sept 5, 1928 - July 25, 2005), Universal is delivering the goods again. If their other MPS boxes (George Duke, Art Van Damme etc) are an indication, these should be nice reissues! Here are some infos:

http://www.jazzecho.de/imposante_cdedition...8.08_140046.jsp

The main thing in short:

Two 5CD sets, two 2CD sets, 15 albums alltogether, remastered, with original artwork and liners. Albums included: Zo-Ko-Ma (finally!), Never Let It End, The Wide Point, A Jazz Tune I Hope, Trilogue - Live! etc.

As of this writing, I have the 2CD Live set on order, will report once I get it!

Covers & tracklists (all taken from jazzecho.de):

Albert Mangelsdorff - Mangelsdorff Originals Vol. 1 (CD)

artist: Attila Zoller, Colin Wilkie, Albert Mangelsdorff Quartet, Albert Mangelsdorff, Albert Mangelsdorff Quintett

2008 MPS-Records | CD 060251779747

CD 1

[1.] Zores Mores 5:42

[2.] Feeling-in And Filling-in In Villingen 4:10

[3.] Ach! Tavia / Skertzo / Alicia's Lullaby 6:26

[4.] At Twighlite 5:54

[5.] Struwwelpeter 4:35

[6.] Alat's Mood 4:50

[7.] Freeline Fräulein 4:41

[8.] Danke For The Memory 4:01

[9.] Rumpelstilzchen 4:33

CD 2

[1.] Icy Acres 4:10

[2.] Fourth Flight 7:04

[3.] Snowy Sunday 7:01

[4.] Willow And Rue 4:23

[5.] Lament 3:29

[6.] Ich armes Maidlein klag mich sehr 6:42

[7.] Sweet Primroses 5:11

CD 3

[1.] Wide Open 3:48

[2.] Never Let It End 9:50

[3.] Certain Beauty 9:18

[4.] 13th Color 6:56

[5.] Open Mind 4:22

[6.] Roitz And Spring 7:16

[7.] Nachwort 1:56

CD 4

[1.] Trombone Suit 9:35

[2.] Mother Someplace 7:23

[3.] Uli's Dance 4:41

[4.] Ice-Nine 9:51

[5.] A Certain Beauty 9:23

CD 5

[1.] Wobbling Notes And Fluted Crackle 14:18

[2.] Grive Musicienne 5:42

[3.] Birds Of Underground 11:37

[4.] Xenobiosis 11:42

Albert Mangelsdorff - Mangelsdorff Originals Vol. 2 (CD)

artist: Albert Mangelsdorff, Joachim Kühn, Gunter Hampel, Pierre Favre, Mumps, Albert Mangelsdorff Trio

2008 MPS-Records | CD 060251779753

CD 1

[1.] The Up And Down Man 7:23

[2.] Mayday Hymn 5:37

[3.] Oh Horn! 6:10

[4.] I Mo' Take You To My Hospital And Cut Your Liver Out 7:11

[5.] Mood Indigo 4:50

[6.] The Wide Point 6:32

[7.] For Peter 2:08

CD 2

[1.] Rainbow Road 4:13

[2.] Ant Steps On An Elephant's Toe 6:08

[3.] Take Your Hit Kit 4:38

[4.] Schwwweeet: My New Friend (No. 294), Freedom Of The Universe (No. 284), Kisses (No. 291), Hot (No. 293) 10:25

[5.] Fuga mit Orgelpunkt von Schnee 5:01

[6.] The Barriers On The Way To You 2:44

[7.] In A Sentimental Mood 4:54

[8.] Supraconductivity 2:25

[9.] Medieval Percussion Song 4:09

[10.] Ringelvier 3:56

CD 3

[1.] A Matter Of Taste 8:33

[2.] Old Love Never Rusts 4:26

[3.] Amber / Electric Waltz 7:12

[4.] Sparrow Knows 5:53

[5.] The Strange Tale Of Mr. Misster 4:24

[6.] But The Accordion Stays 9:19

CD 4

[1.] Wart G'schwind 8:55

[2.] Once We're Here 2:18

[3.] A Jazz Tune I Hope 7:59

[4.] Kommentar zu "Hamburger Idylle" 2:52

[5.] Lapwing 8:16

[6.] Goma 1:11

[7.] Street Of Loneliness 4:55

[8.] Three Card Molly 8:29

CD 5

[1.] Hüpf Thema 8:31

[2.] Des'sch Too Much 6:23

[3.] Otherwise 6:58

[4.] Loose, Moose, Blues 14:54

[5.] Give Me Some Skin 7:05

Albert Mangelsdorff - Mangelsdorff Live (CD)

artist: Albert Mangelsdorff

2008 MPS-Records | CD 060251779742

CD 1

[1.] Trilogue 6:02

[2.] Zores Mores 8:43

[3.] Foreign Fun 7:53

[4.] Accidental Meeting 9:38

[5.] Ant Steps On An Elephant's Toe 9:49

CD 2

[1.] Dear Mr. Palmer 16:02

[2.] Mood Azur 6:08

[3.] Stay On The Carpet 6:10

[4.] Rip Off 16:35

Albert Mangelsdorff - Mangelsdorff Solo (CD)

artist: Albert Mangelsdorff

2008 MPS-Records | CD 060251779743

CD 1

[1.] Blues Of A Cellar Lark 11:03

[2.] Trombirds 3:40

[3.] Yellow Hammer 4:07

[4.] Introducing Marc Suetterlyn 3:38

[5.] Espontaneo 12:04

[6.] Sing A Simple Song For Change 3:34

[7.] Do Your Own Thing 8:55

[8.] Tromboneliness 6:25

[9.] Creole Love Call 5:42

[10.] Bonn 7:22

CD 2

[1.] Questions To Come 2:44

[2.] Marc Suetterlyn's Boogie 3:22

[3.] Für Peter 5:41

[4.] Brief Inventions 3:02

[5.] Sit And Think 0:53

[6.] Responsory 5:14

[7.] Für G.K. 1:07

[8.] Föhnhammer 1:58

[9.] Nexus 5:08

[10.] Der alte Dreiviertel 4:51

[11.] Lost And Found 0:56

[12.] Rooty Toot 7:24

[13.] Brief Impressions Of Brighton 2:43

[14.] What Did The Bird Say? 1:34

[15.] Bone Blues 5:17

[16.] J.C. Was Here 1:32

[17.] Give Me Some Skin 1:04

[king ubu]

the live set is: Albert Live in Montreux and Trilogue - Live

the solo is: Trombirds, Solo, Tromboneliness

can't recognize all the albums of the two larger sets.

[Chuck Nessa]

Thanks for posting this. Been waiting a long time for Zo-Ko-Ma.

[Stefan Wood]

Holy moley! Yet.... this will be expensive!!

[felser]

Holy moley! Yet.... this will be expensive!!

And it all could have been fit onto three 3-CD sets, 9 CD's total, rather than two 5CD sets and two 2CD sets, 14 CD's total. Feels a little exploitative in that sense, and a change from the other MPS sets I think.

[Bluerein]

always something to complain about..............Like the King and Chuck I'm very happy to see these at all on CD.

[mikefok]

Mangelsdorff Originals Vol. 1

MPS 06025 1779747

Includes the albums:

- Zo-Ko-Ma (1968), feat. Attila Zoller, Lee Konitz, Barre Phillips & Stu Martin

- Wild Goose (1969), feat. Colin Wilkie & Shirley Hart, Joki Freund, Emil Mangelsdorff, Heinz Sauer, Günter Lenz & Ralf Hübner

- Never Let It End (1970), feat. Heinz Sauer, Günter Lenz & Ralf Hübner

- Trombone Workshop (1971), feat. Slide Hampton, Ake Persson, Jiggs Whigham, George Gruntz, Isla Eckinger & Tony Inzalaco

- Birds Of Underground (1972), feat. Heinz Sauer, Gerd Dudek, Buschi Niebergall & Peter Giger

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Mangelsdorff Originals Vol. 2

MPS 06025 1779753

Includes the albums:

- The Wide Point (1975), feat. Palle Danielsson & Elvin Jones

- Solo Now (1976), feat. Joachim Kühn, Gunter Hampel & Pierre Favre

- MUMPS - A Matter Of Taste (1977), feat. John Surman, Barre Phillips & Stu Martin

- A Jazz Tune I Hope (1978), feat. Wolfgang Dauner, Eddie Gomez & Elvin Jones

- Triple Entente (1982), feat. Leon Francioli & Pierre Favre

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Albert Mangelsdorff 2-CD sets

Mangelsdorff Live

MPS 06025 1779742

Includes the albums:

- Trilogue Live! (1976), feat. Jaco Pastorius & Alphonse Mouzon

- Live In Montreux (1980), feat. J.F. Jenny-Clark & Ronald Shannon Jackson

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Mangelsdorff Solo

MPS 06025 1779743

Includes the albums:

- Trombirds (1972)

- Tromboneliness (1976)

- Solo (1982)

[A Lark Ascending]

I've always been curious about MUMPS - the Surman/Phillips/Martin group. I recall reading about them just as I started listening to jazz but never heard the record. Might give Vol 2 a go...there are some other interesting names there.

[mikeweil]

I've always been curious about MUMPS - the Surman/Phillips/Martin group. I recall reading about them just as I started listening to jazz but never heard the record. Might give Vol 2 a go...there are some other interesting names there.

IIRC that's one of the best of the bunch. I found his studio album always a little restrained.

They should have recorded the band with Peter Giger live, they were wild. Too few live recordings by Albert's working band. Joe Behrendt was Orrin Keepnews European counterpart, in this respect.

[sidewinder]

I used to have a vinyl of that 'Matter Of Taste' album by Mumps on MPS and couldn't get into it at the time - ended up selling it to Mole Jazz ! Time perhaps to reconsider that verdict..

Edited September 9, 2008 by sidewinder

[A Lark Ascending]

I've always been curious about MUMPS - the Surman/Phillips/Martin group. I recall reading about them just as I started listening to jazz but never heard the record. Might give Vol 2 a go...there are some other interesting names there.

IIRC that's one of the best of the bunch. I found his studio album always a little restrained.

They should have recorded the band with Peter Giger live, they were wild. Too few live recordings by Albert's working band. Joe Behrendt was Orrin Keepnews European counterpart, in this respect.

Thanks, Mike. I think I've only heard him as a member (or guest) of the United Jazz Rock Ensemble which, I'd imagine, is hardly representative.

[mikeweil]

This one is availabel as a single CD reissue and not a part of any of the boxes ....

[mikeweil]

Thanks, Mike. I think I've only heard him as a member (or guest) of the United Jazz Rock Ensemble which, I'd imagine, is hardly representative.

Rather not ... his working bands is only Birds of Underground - all others are "projects" - I don't understand why Berendt didn't record his regular group more often. Albert was much more avant-garde than these albums show, he was a regular member of Schlippenbach's Globe Unity. But he was versatile. I always found the United Jazz Rock Ensemble rather bland - no black groove. I heard him live so often I don't need any CDs to remember him.

[Clunky]

Good news , a recent purchase of a 2 LP set called Star Edition ( compilation of tracks from Trombirds,The Wide Point, Solo Now, Trombone Workshop, Trilogue Live) by Albert Manglesdorff has whetted my appetite for this material. I already have ZoKoMa on LP

[sidewinder]

This video by Mangelsdorff has recently been made available on 'the other site':

"Albert Mangelsdorff All Stars

Porsche Hot Jazz Festival, Europapark Rust/Germany, 4th September, 2004

Albert Mangelsdorff, tb

Christof Lauer, ts

Wolfgang Dauner, p

Markus Schieferdecker, b

Wolfgang Haffner, dr"

[paul secor]

This one is availabel as a single CD reissue and not a part of any of the boxes ....

Another good one!

[king ubu]

Holy moley! Yet.... this will be expensive!!

And it all could have been fit onto three 3-CD sets, 9 CD's total, rather than two 5CD sets and two 2CD sets, 14 CD's total. Feels a little exploitative in that sense, and a change from the other MPS sets I think.

No, they're being sold very cheaply (the 4CD sets by George Duke and Herbolzheimer cost around 50$ here, which is about half the prize such 4CD sets usually cost, so their decision not to fill up the CDs doesn't bother me the least!

Mangelsdorff Originals Vol. 1

MPS 06025 1779747

Includes the albums:

- Zo-Ko-Ma (1968), feat. Attila Zoller, Lee Konitz, Barre Phillips & Stu Martin

- Wild Goose (1969), feat. Colin Wilkie & Shirley Hart, Joki Freund, Emil Mangelsdorff, Heinz Sauer, Günter Lenz & Ralf Hübner

- Never Let It End (1970), feat. Heinz Sauer, Günter Lenz & Ralf Hübner

- Trombone Workshop (1971), feat. Slide Hampton, Ake Persson, Jiggs Whigham, George Gruntz, Isla Eckinger & Tony Inzalaco

- Birds Of Underground (1972), feat. Heinz Sauer, Gerd Dudek, Buschi Niebergall & Peter Giger

*************************

Mangelsdorff Originals Vol. 2

MPS 06025 1779753

Includes the albums:

- The Wide Point (1975), feat. Palle Danielsson & Elvin Jones

- Solo Now (1976), feat. Joachim Kühn, Gunter Hampel & Pierre Favre

- MUMPS - A Matter Of Taste (1977), feat. John Surman, Barre Phillips & Stu Martin

- A Jazz Tune I Hope (1978), feat. Wolfgang Dauner, Eddie Gomez & Elvin Jones

- Triple Entente (1982), feat. Leon Francioli & Pierre Favre

***************

Albert Mangelsdorff 2-CD sets

Mangelsdorff Live

MPS 06025 1779742

Includes the albums:

- Trilogue Live! (1976), feat. Jaco Pastorius & Alphonse Mouzon

- Live In Montreux (1980), feat. J.F. Jenny-Clark & Ronald Shannon Jackson

**************

Mangelsdorff Solo

MPS 06025 1779743

Includes the albums:

- Trombirds (1972)

- Tromboneliness (1976)

- Solo (1982)

Thanks a lot for filling in the details, I was posting from work and didn't have time to google it all up!

The two big ones look great, the live is on its way, and it's only a question of time until the solo one will be on order, too!

This one is availabel as a single CD reissue and not a part of any of the boxes ....

As Paul Secor said, a good one indeed!

This is one of the few of these MPS batches from some years back that remain available, alas...

[Niko]

just ordered my first mangelsdorff cd (now jazz ramwong) to check out whether i will need these for christmas...

[Big Beat Steve]

Have earlier Mangelsdorff's (from the EP era) ever been reissued comprehensively?

I mean, how can you go wrong with track titles like

DIE OPA HIRCHLEITNER STORY

that would leave most anybody guessing as to what it actually is?? :D

[mikeweil]

Have earlier Mangelsdorff's (from the EP era) ever been reissued comprehensively?

I don't think so. These items achieve crazy prices on ebay, but no label cares for them it seems. The CBS LPs of Mangelsdorff's bands have been reissued by L+R Records. But not the earlier stuff. There has been one CD that Michael Frohne, the discographer, compiled, a very limited reissue, I'll have to search for this ...

[A Lark Ascending]

Thanks, Mike. I think I've only heard him as a member (or guest) of the United Jazz Rock Ensemble which, I'd imagine, is hardly representative.

Rather not ... his working bands is only Birds of Underground - all others are "projects" - I don't understand why Berendt didn't record his regular group more often. Albert was much more avant-garde than these albums show, he was a regular member of Schlippenbach's Globe Unity. But he was versatile. I always found the United Jazz Rock Ensemble rather bland - no black groove. I heard him live so often I don't need any CDs to remember him.

Yes, I know what you mean. The drumming always sounded very stiff.

[Bluerein]

2 of the German CBS LP's (Now, Jazz Ramwong & Tension) are obtainable through L+R (and fairly cheap). Recently another of the German CBS LP's (Folk Mond & Flower Dream) was reissued on CD by NEKTAR (German label).

Interestingly Pacific Jazz issued an LP in the 60's called Now, Jazz Ramwong which has tracks from both the LP's issued by L+R.

[king ubu]

just ordered my first mangelsdorff cd (now jazz ramwong) to check out whether i will need these for christmas...

That and "Tensions" or "One! Tension" or whatever was its original title are the best, in my opinion. The quintet was a great BAND, lots of great things going on, lots of earthy grooves, singing solos, free-ish stuff etc. The later music is different, less... fun? Less playful? Well, I guess not really, but it has a different vibe to it. It's not of lesser quality or anything, it's just that I don't connect to it so easily. Somewhere halfway is the Live in Tokyo/Live at Dug's or whatever that one's really called, that's a quartet album (quintet minus Kronberg, leaving Heinz Sauer on saxes) and it gets freeer (and less focused), compared to the earlier quintet albums. Anyway, except for United Jazz + Rock Ensemble, almost anything Mangelsdorff did is worth listening, in my opinion, and I'll be very happy to replace my old burns of the old "Three Originals" sets with these new boxes (I only had the trio one of the three originals like that, never had the other one, so most of this stuff is still new to me!)

[Niko]

one of the most remarkable things i read in an interview was in a heinz sauer interview from shortly after mangelsdorff died; iirc sauer had just recorded a mangelsdorff tribute album or the like; the journalist said something (very roughly) along the lines of "must be hard to lose an old friend like albert?" and sauer said something like "there were dozens of reasons for why there could at no point have been friendship between mangelsdorff and me, i would rather call it respect"

i mean, they weren't talking about, say, love... until then i had always (naively) thought that people who play in a (great, and not overly commercial) band together for years (decades) must be friends in one way or another... or at least, call themselves friends on the outside... (and mangelsdorff always looks so harmless and friendly, the other way around it would have surprised me less, but that sauer says "that guy could never have been a friend of mine")

[mikeweil]

I dunno - but jazz work is scarce over here, and Sauer would have been dumb to quit playing in one of the busiest bands on the scene.

That said - Sauer's playing is rather limited, IMO - the band they made after Albert changed personnel, Voices, had Albert's ex-sidemen with Bob Degen on piano, but it split when Günter Kronberg died, who was the hottest soloist in the band. I remember a gig where Kronberg blew all others off stage, including Sauer, Christof Lauer, and Gerd Dudek. Too bad he never recorded under his name. He was, IMO, the best saxist Albert ever had, and would have given Jackie Mac or anbody else a hrd time.