king ubu Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Cannonball Adderley - Domination Bobby Hutcherson - Now! also possibly some more Kenton (Balboa, Tropicana, Viva Kenton are the ones) what's the word on these "maybe" ones? and the three Kentons? anyone? I guess I'll get the Adderley anyway, so what about the Hutcherson and those three Kentons? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 There's quite a bit of comment about the Hutcherson on the site. I really like it, it adds an extra, unreleased session that is as good as the released, and I like the writing and the voices. The Kentons. . . well they're what you would expect them to be knowing a bit of Kenton. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 25, 2008 Report Share Posted November 25, 2008 Thanks Lon - will do a search for the Hutcherson later, on the run right now! Will have to think some about the Kentons... I got enough I guess, but then... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelz777 Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Jackie McLean - Right Now! Jackie McLean - Jacknife Neither of these have made my collection yet so now is probably the time if at all. I'm a Jackie fan, should I be without either of these? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Jackie McLean - Right Now! Jackie McLean - Jacknife Neither of these have made my collection yet so now is probably the time if at all. I'm a Jackie fan, should I be without either of these? Both are very, very good. The first track on Jacknife is worth the price of admission as well as the final track on Right Now! Sad to see these go OOP (Right Now! again). For some time a good deal of McLean's BN output, sans 'Bout Soul, Tippin' the Scales, SSS and OSB, were readily available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 If you are really a fan, why such a silly question? Wanna wait a few years for a "Spanish/Andorran" reissue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelz777 Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) If you are really a fan, why such a silly question? Wanna wait a few years for a "Spanish/Andorran" reissue? Because I already have 14 Jackie McLean CDs and wanted to solicit opinions on whether these two were compelling enough to make it 16. I'm an unapologetic fan of the "Spanish/Andorran" reissues but who can predict what they are going to reissue? They represent some truly fantastic music in my collection, most of which, is not available elsewhere. Edited November 26, 2008 by mikelz777 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'd prefer Dolly had a shot at some royalties from her husband's work. Your mileage seems to vary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RDK Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'd prefer Dolly had a shot at some royalties from her husband's work. Your mileage seems to vary. I agree, Chuck, but if Blue Note can't cut it (selling enough to keep these in print), what do you propose? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'd prefer Dolly had a shot at some royalties from her husband's work. Your mileage seems to vary. I agree, Chuck, but if Blue Note can't cut it (selling enough to keep these in print), what do you propose? Both titles are in print. Buy them to justify the issues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quincy Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) If you are really a fan, why such a silly question? Wanna wait a few years for a "Spanish/Andorran" reissue? Because I already have 14 Jackie McLean CDs and wanted to solicit opinions on whether these two were compelling enough to make it 16. I happen to have both amongst my 16 McLean discs. Right Now! is one that sometimes is my favorite McLean and it really blew my socks off the first time I heard it. It was tough to get it out of the player from what I remember. Jacknife is one you want as well. This warning notice is a good wake up call to not take these releases for granted. Edited November 26, 2008 by Quincy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikelz777 Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) Thanks for the friendly feedback. It's nice for helping weigh out whether I should spend limited jazz funds on 2-3 more Jackie Macs or whether the same money should be spent on something else. Like you said, the warning is a good wake up notice. I'd probably regret passing them up only to have them go out of print and become unavailable or only available at a severely inflated price. I'm really intrigued by the sample I heard of "Poor Eric" on "Right Now". I know it was written for Eric Dolphy's untimely death. The sound is so sad and mournful that it appears to be a very heartfelt performance. Edited November 26, 2008 by mikelz777 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WD45 Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Many of these titles going OOP are part of Amazon's Black Friday sale -- most available for $8.99! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
riverrat Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Both of those Tina Brooks discs are "must haves". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'd prefer Dolly had a shot at some royalties from her husband's work. Prefer all you want , but unless you're prepared to argue for the assumptions underlying that preference , don't think for a second that such a preference is morally privileged simply in virtue of whatever emotional appeal it may have . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Jackie McLean - Right Now! Jackie McLean - Jacknife Neither of these have made my collection yet so now is probably the time if at all. I'm a Jackie fan, should I be without either of these? Both are very, very good. The first track on Jacknife is worth the price of admission as well as the final track on Right Now! Sad to see these go OOP (Right Now! again). For some time a good deal of McLean's BN output, sans 'Bout Soul, Tippin' the Scales, SSS and OSB, were readily available. Agreed on Jacknife and Right Now! As for the others you mention, it seems 'Bout Soul is one of those Conns that will never vanish... Hutcherson's Components is a similar case (though in the current EMI sales here it doesn't turn up). Those may be OOP but there seems to be plenty of stock around. Bad sellers, I guess... (and for some good reasons in the case of 'Bout Soul!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 1960 Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 (edited) I'm a huge fan of Jackie Mclean and own both releases. It wasn't till recently I picked up "Jacknife" and I already owned at least a dozen or more recordings by him. I should have bought this one years ago. Gosh, you get Lee Morgan and Charles Tolliver on this date and one track "Soft Blue" you get both. Don't pass on either of these recordings up or you'll end up kicking yourself. Edited November 26, 2008 by Tom 1960 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robviti Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'd prefer Dolly had a shot at some royalties from her husband's work. Prefer all you want , but unless you're prepared to argue for the assumptions underlying that preference , don't think for a second that such a preference is morally privileged simply in virtue of whatever emotional appeal it may have . The umbrage you ostensibly take with this constituent’s disputation is eclipsed by the excessively complex nature of your composed rejoinder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'd prefer Dolly had a shot at some royalties from her husband's work. Prefer all you want , but unless you're prepared to argue for the assumptions underlying that preference , don't think for a second that such a preference is morally privileged simply in virtue of whatever emotional appeal it may have . The umbrage you ostensibly take with this constituent’s disputation is eclipsed by the excessively complex nature of your composed rejoinder. I think it's fitting that Chas lives in Interzone, which is a suburb of Andorra. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'll vouch for that KENTON SHOWCASE--it's all Russo and Holman arrangements, and you get some nice Lee Konitz on the last several tracks as well. (I'm guessing these sides were part of the Mosaic, which I never picked up.) I'm on the fence about RIGHT NOW, because I already have it as part of the McLean Mosaic--but it's a real favorite of mine, and I'm sure the sound is improved over the 1993 box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'll vouch for that KENTON SHOWCASE--it's all Russo and Holman arrangements, and you get some nice Lee Konitz on the last several tracks as well. (I'm guessing these sides were part of the Mosaic, which I never picked up.) I'm on the fence about RIGHT NOW, because I already have it as part of the McLean Mosaic--but it's a real favorite of mine, and I'm sure the sound is improved over the 1993 box. I'll back you on the Kenton Showcase, David. The 12 Holman tracks are great favorites, the 8 Russos less so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndrewHill Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Those may be OOP but there seems to be plenty of stock around. Bad sellers, I guess... (and for some good reasons in the case of 'Bout Soul!) Maybe its just me but I absolutely love 'Bout Soul-some of the most out-leaning McLean that I know of! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 I'd prefer Dolly had a shot at some royalties from her husband's work. Prefer all you want , but unless you're prepared to argue for the assumptions underlying that preference , don't think for a second that such a preference is morally privileged simply in virtue of whatever emotional appeal it may have . The umbrage you ostensibly take with this constituent’s disputation is eclipsed by the excessively complex nature of your composed rejoinder. I nominate this as THE post of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Jackie McLean - Right Now! Jackie McLean - Jacknife Neither of these have made my collection yet so now is probably the time if at all. I'm a Jackie fan, should I be without either of these? Both are very, very good. The first track on Jacknife is worth the price of admission as well as the final track on Right Now! Sad to see these go OOP (Right Now! again). Word-for-word what the Holy one sez. I would also add that "Poor Eric" is mesmerizing like few pieces of music are; the way the bass and the alto play the melody line is heart-breaking. Besides, if you ever need a reason to justify a purchase, always remember that one can never have too much McLean. (Well, except for 'BOUT SOUL. I'm in agreement with Ubu on this one!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 26, 2008 Report Share Posted November 26, 2008 Those may be OOP but there seems to be plenty of stock around. Bad sellers, I guess... (and for some good reasons in the case of 'Bout Soul!) Maybe its just me but I absolutely love 'Bout Soul-some of the most out-leaning McLean that I know of! I won't necessarily disagree - let's just call it "uneven", ok? I mean I don't need to re-listen to that lady's overacted poem recitation another time in the coming five years or so (and I guess it's been five years since I last heard it). Anyway, I'm a fan of McLean's early years, having most that's been out in recent years... but for those who have doubts about what McLean to buy, this is one I'd rather recommend to skip, still. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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