papsrus Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 (edited) Stumbled across this site and was wondering if anyone was familiar. Warning: When I tried to listen to some sound samples at the site my computer went completely bonkers, opening up tabs in rapid succession for apparently every sound sample on the site. I had to do a hard reboot because there was no way to stop the tabs from popping up at light speed. But, I am curious about these recordings. First stumbled upon them here at amazon. EDIT: I tried a different sound sample and again, computer went bonkers. So, fair warning. (Maybe I'll try disabling tabs to see what happens ... later). Edited December 26, 2008 by papsrus Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 (edited) I don't know if you've done a search, but this label - at least their King Oliver release - has been discussed before in this thread, this thread and also here. Edited December 26, 2008 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazztrain Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Archeophone is a label that focuses on early (generally "pre-jazz") recordings. I have the Six Brown Brothers and King Oliver releases. They have excellent transfers and impressive booklets. I've been tempted by some of their other releases, including the "Lost Sounds" set that apparently dovetails with the book (Lost Sounds: Blacks and the Birth of the Recording Industry, 1891-1922). Stumbled across this site and was wondering if anyone was familiar. Warning: When I tried to listen to some sound samples at the site my computer went completely bonkers, opening up tabs in rapid succession for apparently every sound sample on the site. I had to do a hard reboot because there was no way to stop the tabs from popping up at light speed. But, I am curious about these recordings. First stumbled upon them here at amazon. EDIT: I tried a different sound sample and again, computer went bonkers. So, fair warning. (Maybe I'll try disabling tabs to see what happens ... later). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 King Oliver set on Amazon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 excellent label; however, some of their releases (the early ones, I think) have horrendous noise reduction and have that gargling, "too much hiss reduction" problem. But they have done some excellent work - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 (edited) excellent label; however, some of their releases (the early ones, I think) have horrendous noise reduction and have that gargling, "too much hiss reduction" problem. But they have done some excellent work - As far as I can tell the Archeophone King Oliver set does not have excessive noise reduction, unlike the Retrieval King Oliver set. I'm told Retrieval applied heavy noise reduction after John R.T. Davies had done the mastering. It's very audible on the Retrieval set. Edited December 26, 2008 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted December 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 The King Oliver "Complete 1923" I recently purchased is on the label Off The Record, distributed by Archeophone. I assumed that means the re-mastering was not done by Archeophone. I any case, I'm going to mine these a little bit. Thanks all for the comments. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 James, I think you and Hans are talking about the same set. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted December 26, 2008 Author Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 James, I think you and Hans are talking about the same set. . . . Thanks Lon. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the term "distributed." It implied to me that the audio work was done prior. I could be off on that, though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted O'Reilly Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 James, I think you and Hans are talking about the same set. . . . Thanks Lon. Maybe I'm just misunderstanding the term "distributed." It implied to me that the audio work was done prior. I could be off on that, though. I'm listening to the set right now... The credits say "Produced by Doug Benson and David Sager for 'Off The Record'" and says that of the 37 disc transfers 30 were done by Doug Benson, 2 by Marty Alexander, 1 by Michael Kieffer and 4 by Steven Lasker. Presumably those 7 non-Benson transfers were from discs owned by Alexander, Kieffer and Lasker, who didn't wish to have them out of their own hands. Further down, "Distributed by Archeophone Records, LLC" is noted. Websites indicated are www.offtherecord.us and www.archeophone.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 (edited) Worlds Records, who I trust, lists this as an Archeophone Records release. . . . http://www.worldsrecords.com/cgi-bin/store...=12-26-08.29777 But, it appears to be an Off the Records label release, possibly their only one so far. Edited December 26, 2008 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny weir Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 I believe the next Off The Record/Archeophone project will be Freddie Keppard. Like you all, I have the Oliver set and look often at other releases, but other stuff always has priority. There's Sophie Tucker coming up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy T. Frog Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 I love me some Bert Williams. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BERIGAN Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 I missed out on one of their Hit of the Week volumes, perhaps #2 on ebay a few weeks back...Need to get those someday... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 1, 2009 Report Share Posted January 1, 2009 the King Oliver was by special arrangement - I know Dave Sager (he works at the Library of Congress) and they did the transfers and restoration work independently - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny weir Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 This looks unmissable - even if I have a good few of the tracks already. Cabaret Echoes: New Orleans Jazzers at Work, 1918-1927 http://www.archeophone.com/product_info.php?products_id=102 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted May 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 That looks wonderful. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted May 23, 2010 Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 I couldn't figure out how to pre-order the set on the Archeophone site, but it is available for pre-order on amazon.com. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted May 23, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 23, 2010 I didn't see a list price at Archeophone. Think I'll wait a few days to see what they will be selling it for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted May 25, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 FYI -- ordered Cabaret Echoes today from Archeophone for $29.99 plus shipping. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny weir Posted May 25, 2010 Report Share Posted May 25, 2010 Me, too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Posted May 26, 2010 Report Share Posted May 26, 2010 It's actually a release from Off the Record, available for sale on the Archeophone site at http://www.archeophone.com/product_info.php?products_id=102 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 Ordered on Wednesday and already received today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kenny weir Posted May 30, 2010 Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 I've listened to a few samples, post-ordering. I've mixed feelings about the spoken word components: Great to have, fascinating to hear at least once, but I wonder how they'll affect the long-term enjoyability of the set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
papsrus Posted May 30, 2010 Author Report Share Posted May 30, 2010 I've listened to a few samples, post-ordering. I've mixed feelings about the spoken word components: Great to have, fascinating to hear at least once, but I wonder how they'll affect the long-term enjoyability of the set. They're not that long, so not intrusive, for me. But they don't add a whole lot either, frankly. It may have been better to include a couple of longer interviews at the end of the disc rather than shorter snippets sprinkled among the music. But at the same time, the way it's presented is kind of folksy, and so pleasant, I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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