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How is the Brötzmann/Bennink "total music meeting 1977" on brö (brö B)?

I ordered a copy from Eremite last week. I'll let you know what I think once I've had a chance to listen to it.

Holy smokes! I bought this when I saw them back in early October and promptly put it in the "to be listened to" pile, where it is still waiting. Thanks for the reminder.

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That's *the* Walter Perkins? The guy who was in MJT3 or what that group was called, and appeared on a few BNs? Great drummer, for sure, but Brötz seems a rather unlikely partner, no?

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He certainly sounds as if he is enjoying himself on the LP.

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Walter Perkins plays kit on Bob's Pink Cadillac. Brotzmann is not Perry Robinson, for sure, but if you're interested in hearing Perkins or Robinson in recent years, that is a great place to go.

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If this is the Perkins that king ubu refers to, then the Brotzmann duo qualifies as an autumnal recording; he died in 2004.

Edited by ep1str0phy

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If any Funny Ratters are interested in a free copy of Charles Gayle Trio - Live at Glenn Miller Café (Ayler) send me a PM and it is yours.

I have an extra (still sealed) copy thanks to the kindness of Jan Strom. I already own the album and would like to pass it along to someone who would enjoy it.

(on Hold)

Edited by John B

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Btw, there is another CD of Schlippenbach playing Monk:

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Alexander von Schlippenbach, p

Ino Nobuyoshi, b

Sunny Murray, dr

Enja Horst Weber, 1997

Not sure about the avialability.

I finally was able to track down a copy of this disc. $10 on ebay. Not too expensive, either.

I've been listening to a lot of Schlippenbach recently, so I'm really looking forward to getting home and giving this disc a spin tonight.

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I ordered Brotzmann / Zerang disc yesterday.

Where were you able to order this one from? I'd be interested to read your thoughts on the disc once you've had a chance to listen to it a few times.

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Brotzmann appears on the 2 CD+1 DVD Mauricio Kagel Edition on Winter & Winter. He adds a few characteristic saxophone honks to “(Hörspiel) Ein Aufnahmezustand,” a tape collage radio play from 1969.

It’s not a necessity, but Kagel nuts will want it anyway. The other CD includes Kagel on bandoneon and voice, a warped tango, and a piece for three people playing bird calls. It’s easy to hear Kagel’s influence on John Zorn. The radio piece sounds like an honourable ancestor of Zorn’s file card compositions, while the bird calls remind me of Classic Guide to Strategy.

The DVD is Kagel’s Ludwig van from 1969.

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Btw, there is another CD of Schlippenbach playing Monk:

9104.jpg

Alexander von Schlippenbach, p

Ino Nobuyoshi, b

Sunny Murray, dr

Enja Horst Weber, 1997

Not sure about the avialability.

I finally was able to track down a copy of this disc. $10 on ebay. Not too expensive, either.

I've been listening to a lot of Schlippenbach recently, so I'm really looking forward to getting home and giving this disc a spin tonight.

I bought it a couple of months ago, and it turned out to be one of the few discs that went to get-rid-off pile just after a couple of tracks. Murray's drumming is horrendous - heavy-handed and unimaginative, the bass is too busy... just ruin the Monk's compositions. Schlippenbach's "Monk's Casino" project (whom I saw live - don't have their CD set) is much more interesting (while also being not entirely successful). Edited by Д.Д.

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Brotzmann appears on the 2 CD+1 DVD Mauricio Kagel Edition on Winter & Winter. He adds a few characteristic saxophone honks to “(Hörspiel) Ein Aufnahmezustand,” a tape collage radio play from 1969.

It’s not a necessity, but Kagel nuts will want it anyway. The other CD includes Kagel on bandoneon and voice, a warped tango, and a piece for three people playing bird calls. It’s easy to hear Kagel’s influence on John Zorn. The radio piece sounds like an honourable ancestor of Zorn’s file card compositions, while the bird calls remind me of Classic Guide to Strategy.

The DVD is Kagel’s Ludwig van from 1969.

This track with Brötzmann is avilable at Musik in Deutschland 1950-2000: Musik für Radio compilation: http://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B00005B0SE...3123398-0312512

I have it, but have not listened to it yet (as well as Free-Jazz in DDR compilation from the same series)

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No idea if Peter Brotzmann's 'Full Blast' has been mentioned before but the title of the album tells it all!

One of Brotzmann's very best in years!

Recorded in 2006 at the Loft in Koln.

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I ordered Brotzmann / Zerang disc yesterday.

Where were you able to order this one from? I'd be interested to read your thoughts on the disc once you've had a chance to listen to it a few times.

I ordered it right from the label, and it arrived within a couple of weeks, right from Lebanon [the label's home].

This disc is insanely good. I have heard Zerang only in a couple of other situations, and certainly not in duo. His playing on this really brings to the fore his background [Assyrian-American]. There is some serious ancient Mesopotamian rhythms happening there, a different kind of ferocious swing. The second cut features Zerang on the darbuka hand drum. Superb all around.

Hearing Brotzmann duo with drummers in the Interstellar Space tradition gets more and more thrilling. There is quite a range of thoughts and dynamics that flourish when he plays with a percussionist only. That duo LP with Walter Perkins comes to mind.

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Brotzmann appears on the 2 CD+1 DVD Mauricio Kagel Edition on Winter & Winter. He adds a few characteristic saxophone honks to “(Hörspiel) Ein Aufnahmezustand,” a tape collage radio play from 1969.

It’s not a necessity, but Kagel nuts will want it anyway. The other CD includes Kagel on bandoneon and voice, a warped tango, and a piece for three people playing bird calls. It’s easy to hear Kagel’s influence on John Zorn. The radio piece sounds like an honourable ancestor of Zorn’s file card compositions, while the bird calls remind me of Classic Guide to Strategy.

The DVD is Kagel’s Ludwig van from 1969.

Have to get this. Looks awesome.

My Kagel fanatacism holds mostly to the late '60s work up through the '70s; Peter B did tell me he performed a piece of Kagel's but could not recall which work it was. I think he had a good time with it, but recalled not being really in the same vein as some of the other musicians/artists present.

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News from Innova:

Innova has received a major grant from the New York State Music Fund to increase its activities in that state. Over 2007-8 innova will 1) release at least 20 CDs of music by New York artists, 2) do extensive marketing of existing New York artists' works on the label by placing nearly 2,000 CDs in school and public libraries in small towns across the state, and 3) establish an outstate touring network with travel subsidy for the artists to present their work to new audiences. The touring subsidy will allow each artist to present outreach activities and performances at our venue partners who include: Society for New Music, Syracuse; SUNY, Potsdam; St. Lawrence University, Canton; Deep Listening Institute, Kingston; Roulette, NYC; and several others.

Artists included (subject to evolution)

LaMonte Young (NYC), Cristian Amigo (Astoria), Rudresh Mahanthappa (NYC), Sean Noonan (Brooklyn), Amanda Monaco (NYC), Kiku Collins (NYC) , Neil Rolnick (NYC), Todd Reynolds (Sunnyside), Roger Kleier NYC), Susie Ibarra (NYC), Lukas Ligeti (NYC), Yuanlin Chen (Kew Garden Hills), Robert Een (NYC), John Morton (Tappan), Ushio Torikai (NYC), Ethel (NYC) plays Mary Ellen Childs "Dreamhouse", Michael Farley (Canton), Billband: "Ferocious Groove Monkey" (NYC) music by Bill Ryan, Esther Lamneck (NYC): Works by Cort Lippe, Robert Rowe, Dinu Ghezzo, Orlando Legname, Lawrence Moss, Zack Browning; David Del Tredici (NYC), Virgil Moorefield, Stephen Gosling, Tom Chiu, David Eggar, Tom Kolor, Michael Lowenstern, Thad de Brock (NYC), Brian Dewan (New Rochelle)

The New York State Music Fund was created when the New York State Attorney General's Office resolved investigations against major record companies that had violated state and federal laws prohibiting "pay for play" (also called "payola). The fund is administered by the Rockefeller Philanthropy Advisors.

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i see that the review for aaj ripped the dipp regarding frank wright's newish "unity" release.

i really like it. for some reason the method by which the group is improvising really makes sense to me. some of it is a bit much, but it all seems to be in good spirits.

someone on this board, probably ubu or DD, was saying a long time ago how they do not like bobby few. i agree he spews out too many notes per minute. it seems like his way of attacking the free thing was/is? to play very busy. sometimes it does work and he sounds good on this one, i think.

do others agree with the aaj guy? the allmusic guide guy seems to like it better.

is chuck really going to reissue "saga of the outlaws"? i hope you will, chuck. it is great.

a mention should be made for the boykins/reid rhythm section. not heard enough-but one of my favorites!

i just got a sketchy downtownmusicgallery CD of "the black arc" (ark?) and i think it is great. arthur doyle works in this context for me.

downtownmusicgallery also had another noah howard/frank wright america album-space dimension, maybe? how is that one? they also did up scorpio, which i have to pick up. that's a good one.

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i am listening to sam rivers "crystals" right now, which i guess is funny rat-tish enough and sam really should have told whichever percussionist is using a telephone as a percussion instrument to leave the phone home next time. it is probably just some sort of bell, actually but has anyone noticed there is a noise that sounds a lot like a phone ringing on some of the groovier percussion heavy parts? very annoying noise...

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i see that the review for aaj ripped the dipp regarding frank wright's newish "unity" release.

i really like it. for some reason the method by which the group is improvising really makes sense to me. some of it is a bit much, but it all seems to be in good spirits.

someone on this board, probably ubu or DD, was saying a long time ago how they do not like bobby few. i agree he spews out too many notes per minute. it seems like his way of attacking the free thing was/is? to play very busy. sometimes it does work and he sounds good on this one, i think.

do others agree with the aaj guy? the allmusic guide guy seems to like it better.

is chuck really going to reissue "saga of the outlaws"? i hope you will, chuck. it is great.

a mention should be made for the boykins/reid rhythm section. not heard enough-but one of my favorites!

i just got a sketchy downtownmusicgallery CD of "the black arc" (ark?) and i think it is great. arthur doyle works in this context for me.

downtownmusicgallery also had another noah howard/frank wright america album-space dimension, maybe? how is that one? they also did up scorpio, which i have to pick up. that's a good one.

I really like Black Ark a lot - funnily enough, there is a Japanese CD of it, but it's OOP and for some reason, rather expensive... more than the LP, in fact!

Scorpio was also on a Japanese CD through P-Vine, also now OOP. An excellent date that should not be missed.

I really am surprised that the Free America series did not reissue the Arthur Jones or the Noah Howard, which would have fit nicely on one disc with Uhuru na Umoja.

Will have to read this AAJ review of the Wright - I guess it's not for everybody, but it is a very fine performance.

Edit: wow, just read that. I find it interesting that people utterly slam things that they may not quite get. If it were me and I detested the music that much, I'd pass it along to another reviewer who might see something I missed. But whatever.

Edited by clifford_thornton

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From what I can gather, scores of folks were trying to get the Wright review disc. I hope this guy listened hard.

For whatever it's worth, I like Unity a bit more than many of the other Wright quartet dates I've heard. I'll probably favor the Wright/Howard duo at the end of the day, but I appreciate the special sort of fervor that these musicians can pull from free-ish mania. Lord knows that less successful attempts exist--and without the juice.

As per Few--anyone who's heard him in both the Lacy and Wright contexts will know that that cat's approach is a lot more than florid runs. He's probably one of the more immediately versatile piano voices in the free jazz of the post-Ayler/Coltrane era.

So DMG's selling Black Ark now? With permission, or is this just another rip? 'Cause if this is just another rip, then they're not really looking into the proper business prospects (if certain posts on the blogosphere are any indication).

Another topic: what do you guys think of Braxton's work with Gino Robair?

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Re:Black Ark

I emailed Noah Howard before Christmas and asked him if he would be re-releasing "Black Ark" or "Berlin Concert" anytime soon. In his reply he said,"yes we will release the cd in the spring". I'm not sure which album he meant or if he meant that he was going to release both.

Re: DMG rips

I spoke w/ the manager for Dave Burrell about DMG selling cdr's of "La Vie De Boheme". He said they were definitely not authorized copies but that there was little he could do to stop them from selling them.

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