Tom 1960 Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 A name I wasn't familiar with until my recent purchase of Andrew Hill's "Grass Roots". Nice stuff. Any other dates either as a leader or sideman I should look into? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 (edited) I've always thought the bonus tracks to "Grass Roots" really shine (maybe even more than the originally released session), and I think in large measure because of the inclusion of Ponder, AND how Ponder rises to the occasion with some really 'tart' playing. I'd kill to find some more guitar playing of that sort, in that kind of "off-kilter" context. One of my favorite John Patton BN dates includes Patton as well, "That Certain Feeling" (1968) with Junior Cook and Clifford Jarvis. It's on the Patton Mosaic Select, and is a fantastic date (IMHO). And two other more recent sessions of his that I really like are "Live at the Other End", a live SOLO date from 1982 (I think), with tunes I really like, and some that I suspect you'd almost never hear on solo jazz guitar: Work Song, Jitterbug Waltz, Freedom Jazz Dance(!), Con Alma, Milestones(!), Stella by Starlight, and All the Things You Are. And even more recently, "Somebody's Child" (2007) has an absolutely KILLIN' version of Woody Shaw's "Moontrane", plus "Seven Steps to Heaven", and Pharoah Sanders' "The Creator Has a Master Plan". Edited May 5, 2009 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Ponder is also on Turrentine's Common Touch and some of Donaldson's on Blue Note too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted May 5, 2009 Report Share Posted May 5, 2009 Maybe not everyone's bag, and atypical of Ponder's usual style, but I love his 1974 album on Cadet called While My Guitar Gently Weeps, especially for of that Beatles tune. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 Jimmy's a good player. Maybe better than good. He took Wes somewhere. A lotta guys just copied. He has a good feeling for blues and he sings well, too. I always enjoyed him. There's another guy I heard years ago who impressed me and you never hear about him anymore: O Donnell Levy. Anyone know anything? Black guy with a Jewish surname, Irish first. He did Tommy Flanagan one better..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted May 7, 2009 Report Share Posted May 7, 2009 that certain feeling is the one session with ponder which i found as good or even better than the andrew hill... i also like his own album jump with big john patton quite a bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 The 'Jump' recording for Muse is very enjoyable - and nice that BJP is on there too. Appalling cover art though ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 Very reliable guitarist. Generally worth a listen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 I think I remember reading that Francis Wolf was seriously considering signing up Ponder for a Blue Note album deal in the late 60s, however it never came to pass thanks to his untimely passing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 i wish it was for a reason as profound and unpredictiable like an unfortunate death....in reality it was prob. BN's music-biz B.S, thats what i have my money on....wasn't BARRY HARRIS wanting to record a trio session for BN, Al Lion refused to give him a contract- there are other examples like this, i just dont remember, but im sure you guys could help fill it in Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Niko Posted May 8, 2009 Report Share Posted May 8, 2009 The 'Jump' recording for Muse is very enjoyable - and nice that BJP is on there too. Appalling cover art though ! indeed - an ugly looking cd (but a cheap one at present...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Did anyone ever hear of this O Donnell Levy character I mentioned earlier? He really was a good player. Wonder what ever became of him. 'Ain't but a few of us left'.............................Milt Jackson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noj Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 I have a few of O'Donel Levy's funkier albums from the 70s, one called Simba and another called Everything I Do Gonna Be Funky. I got them from eMusic. Really good player, but I haven't heard him outside this context. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 I have a few of O'Donel Levy's funkier albums from the 70s, one called Simba and another called Everything I Do Gonna Be Funky. I got them from eMusic. Really good player, but I haven't heard him outside this context. He had the big Afro and the whole '9' . I remember seeing some of his LPs when I first got interested in jazz guitar---I rode my dinosaur over to Sam Goody and there they were. I thought his name was funny (whaddaya expect from a 17-year-old? Maybe I was 20...). But when I finally had ears to hear him----'nuther story. He can play. Hope he's alive and well. Speaking of 'ain't but a few...', I heard my man Michael Howell the other night in good form. He was playing with a good singer named Andrea Wolper and Harvey S. (who wound up driving me home, since i live on the way, and my car is in the hands of the White Plains PD---too much info, I know). all sounded really nice, not loud, just musical. It was a pleasure to hear. Michael gets a clear, nice, almost acoustic sound and is a total pro. Harvey can play his ass off. I was unfamiliar with Ms. Wolper but asked a friend to introduce us. There's still good music out there---every night of the week---and it's important to remember this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMP Posted May 11, 2009 Report Share Posted May 11, 2009 Ponder returned to Pittsburgh many years ago, and plays around here frequently - often with Gene Ludwig and Roger Humphries - and sounds as good as ever. As for "Jump" - the sound of Eddie Gladden's crash cymbal (which he's all over on the session) spoils the session for me - maybe it's the early digital technology, I can't figure it out - especially evident on the third cut, but shows up all through the album. If someone has this I'd appreciate a second opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Storer Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 A couple that I like are "James Street" and "Ain't Misbehavin'", both quartet albums on High Note featuring John Hicks, Dwayne Dolphin on bass, and Cecil Brooks III on drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 (edited) Used to have Illusions on ABC, mid-70s. I doubt it ever made it to CD... FWIW I think he is a wonderful guitarist. Edited May 13, 2009 by David Ayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 Ponder returned to Pittsburgh many years ago, and plays around here frequently - often with Gene Ludwig and Roger Humphries - and sounds as good as ever. As for "Jump" - the sound of Eddie Gladden's crash cymbal (which he's all over on the session) spoils the session for me - maybe it's the early digital technology, I can't figure it out - especially evident on the third cut, but shows up all through the album. If someone has this I'd appreciate a second opinion. Probably DMM distortion - typical of that era. I'll dig the LP out and see if I can notice it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted May 13, 2009 Report Share Posted May 13, 2009 ...and I see some guy got a PhD out of him... http://etd.library.pitt.edu/ETD/available/...HARPER_2006.pdf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mailman Posted May 20, 2009 Report Share Posted May 20, 2009 Did anyone ever hear of this O Donnell Levy character I mentioned earlier? He really was a good player. Wonder what ever became of him. 'Ain't but a few of us left'.............................Milt Jackson Ponder did a few sessions as a leader for Groove Merchant back in the 1970s. The best of them is 'Simba' Groove Merchant 526. Released in 1973 it features arrangements by Manny Albam. He played on some other Groove Merchant organ sessions back in those days. I have the LP but I do believe it was released a few years ago on CD. emusic.com has several of his recordings but unfortunately Simba is not there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwbol Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) Now listening to the SHM of John Patton's That Certain Feeling. Sadly, I wasn't aware of Jimmy Ponder at the time of his passing last year, even though I had a copy of Andrew Hill's Grass Roots. I bought his solo disc Live at The Other End then. Now I realise I need even more Ponder. Since Woody Shaw's composition Moontrane is a favourite I ordered Somebody's Child today. Jimmy Ponder didn't even have his own entry in the 4th and 8th Penguin Guides. Edited February 12, 2014 by erwbol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 12, 2014 Report Share Posted February 12, 2014 I discovered the solo album mentioned in post #2 some time before his death .... it's very, very good! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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