Jerry Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Actually what I said above was too simplistic because Evans was doing more than simply subdividing changes inside the bar, he was also knocking down the bar barrier, displacing phrases across bars and chords... Too much can be made, too, of Evans' personal life and drug abuse. I think we should evaluate his art on its own merits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeCity Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Ain't no rushing on Interstellar Space, that's all I'm sayin'... He shoots, he scores. In the case of Bill Evans, wouldn't it be "He scores, he shoots"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 Ain't no rushing on Interstellar Space, that's all I'm sayin'... He shoots, he scores. In the case of Bill Evans, wouldn't it be "He scores, he shoots"? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 as I mentioned before, I'm with Chuck on early Evans - the first album from '56, the stuff from around then with George Russell, East Coastin' with Mingus, and the live stuff with Tony Scott around 1959 - also that live at the Vanguard thing with Konitz and Marsh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 anybody for real early Evans, 1956-59? I've always thought his initial Prestige recording was the most original/personal interpretation of Tristano around - 'Everybody Digs Bill Evans' from 1958 is my favorite by him. love the "Peace Piece"/"Some Other Time" work on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 9, 2009 Author Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 More and more my favorites are the final years, for all their supposed problems, they really fascinate me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted December 9, 2009 Report Share Posted December 9, 2009 More and more my favorites are the final years, for all their supposed problems, they really fascinate me.They are fascinating. His personal language was so evolved, and there's an intensity there. The harmonic language is pretty amazing, and since he played the same pieces a lot his whole career, it's interesting how they evolved. But, like I said, don't expect it to swing like Basie. Those tempos fly away from note one. Get what's to be gotten......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fent99 Posted December 10, 2009 Report Share Posted December 10, 2009 anybody for real early Evans, 1956-59? I've always thought his initial Prestige recording was the most original/personal interpretation of Tristano around - 'Everybody Digs Bill Evans' from 1958 is my favorite by him. love the "Peace Piece"/"Some Other Time" work on it. Hey John Me too and the studio albums with LaFaro a close second, (maybe underrated in the shadow of the Village Vanguard stuff?) especially Explorations which has some great tunes and great interpretations of them. After that I reach for the late trio. Those boxes have so much music on them The Ronnie Scott's performances too, and those Paris Gigs I must get a hold of. He is someone I pretty much always find something of interest in and never get bored of putting on (and my wife tolerates it all too as a bonus, though she doesn't like his work with Konitz...) Recently reading a piece by Gene Lees (in Reading Jazz ed Robert Gottlieb) which flagged up Hi Lilli Hi Lo as special significance made me dig it out of the Fantasy box and thouroughly enjoyed that. There was briefly a compilation of the Columbia stuff which I used to have but traded which I wish I could go back to... Any views on that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 At the time of the Columbia album, I don't think that Bill Evans had embraced the polyester Leisure Suit or beard as viable media for artistic expression. That is one of the reasons this album leaves me cold. Many drug addicts grow beards to hide the facial ulcerations from infections and lack of fatty tissue in their cheeks. Evans had a beard to his dying last days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 At the time of the Columbia album, I don't think that Bill Evans had embraced the polyester Leisure Suit or beard as viable media for artistic expression. That is one of the reasons this album leaves me cold. Many drug addicts grow beards to hide the facial ulcerations from infections and lack of fatty tissue in their cheeks. Evans had a beard to his dying last days. Thanks. Now explain the leisure suits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 At the time of the Columbia album, I don't think that Bill Evans had embraced the polyester Leisure Suit or beard as viable media for artistic expression. That is one of the reasons this album leaves me cold. Many drug addicts grow beards to hide the facial ulcerations from infections and lack of fatty tissue in their cheeks. Evans had a beard to his dying last days. Thanks. Now explain the leisure suits. I will venture and say that the leisure suits and other over-sized garments were also a way for him to cover the dilapidated state of his body. Like most chronic addicts he was most probably remarkably scrawny. The large garments may also have allowed him to carry concealed syringes and whatever other paraphernalia. It may not be an indication of anything, but I have never seen a BE photo in a t-shirt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 At the time of the Columbia album, I don't think that Bill Evans had embraced the polyester Leisure Suit or beard as viable media for artistic expression. That is one of the reasons this album leaves me cold. Many drug addicts grow beards to hide the facial ulcerations from infections and lack of fatty tissue in their cheeks. Evans had a beard to his dying last days. Thanks. Now explain the leisure suits. I will venture and say that the leisure suits and other over-sized garments were also a way for him to cover the dilapidated state of his body. Like most chronic addicts he was most probably remarkably scrawny. The large garments may also have allowed him to carry concealed syringes and whatever other paraphernalia. It may not be an indication of anything, but I have never seen a BE photo in a t-shirt. I'm taking a wild guess that the next post will be that photo... ..wait for it.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 While I was having some fun with my posts in this thread, I have a substantial Bill Evans accumulation, but I unloaded this one because the cover is so hideous. That and the Rhodes, which is not suited for this kind of music. Presentation is important to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Posted January 24, 2011 Report Share Posted January 24, 2011 At the time of the Columbia album, I don't think that Bill Evans had embraced the polyester Leisure Suit or beard as viable media for artistic expression. That is one of the reasons this album leaves me cold. Many drug addicts grow beards to hide the facial ulcerations from infections and lack of fatty tissue in their cheeks. Evans had a beard to his dying last days. Thanks. Now explain the leisure suits. I will venture and say that the leisure suits and other over-sized garments were also a way for him to cover the dilapidated state of his body. Like most chronic addicts he was most probably remarkably scrawny. The large garments may also have allowed him to carry concealed syringes and whatever other paraphernalia. It may not be an indication of anything, but I have never seen a BE photo in a t-shirt. I'm taking a wild guess that the next post will be that photo... ..wait for it.... And here it is...not strictly a t-shirt..but almost! Great to see such heated discussions about Bill Evans. I've never found his time that horrible..nor his sense for ballads. But I liked him better not playing the Rhodes, there's so many more colors in the acoustic piano for him to paint the pictures. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 While I was having some fun with my posts in this thread, I have a substantial Bill Evans accumulation, but I unloaded this one because the cover is so hideous. That and the Rhodes, which is not suited for this kind of music. Presentation is important to me. Hmmmm, that's an interesting comment from someone so enamored with listening to Beatles music so substandardly performed by non-Beatles! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Bill Evans on Rhodes isn't even half as bad as Eddie Gomez on electric bass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tee Posted January 25, 2011 Report Share Posted January 25, 2011 Bill Evans on Rhodes isn't even half as bad as Eddie Gomez on electric bass. Which is how he usually sounds! But amazing bassist, nevertheless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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