alankin Posted May 5, 2011 Report Share Posted May 5, 2011 Ah, I somehow missed that one. Then there's good ol' nukolar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodka Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 Aren't those boxes supposed to be complete? Couldn't find the Morning Song album in the Murray set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stefan Wood Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 (edited) It's just Murray's Octet recordings. Morning Song is a quartet session. Edited May 6, 2011 by Stefan Wood Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vodka Posted May 6, 2011 Report Share Posted May 6, 2011 It's just Murray's Octet recordings. Morning Song is a quartet session. Thanks, my bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ATR Posted June 1, 2011 Report Share Posted June 1, 2011 Look at all the albums that these two labels put out...one after the other...and these box sets are barely scratching the surface of their total output...and yet, this stuff was hard as hell to get in many parts of the US for quite a while, which maybe created a really distorted picture of what all was going on in the music at the time, which then allowed for all sorts of distorted concepts of problems P& solutions...too bad. Good point - I was saying something like this before. In that whole period a lot of US music was issued outside the US, and you're right, the course of jazz at that time must have seemed different with only limited access to the numerous European issues from various labels, but most notably in terms of any kind of modern jazz (whatver that means), these BS/SN issues. In truth, few of these titles (as a proportion of the many issued) have ever settled down to seem like classics to me, but if you consider the chunks of material from that have been boxed so far and bear in mind that there will be some more to come... also things that might not get boxed: early Tim Berne, some Glenn Spearman, Hemphill/Bowie/Mitchell/Abrams/Jarman?(Wadada)Smith, Frank Lowe, John Carter, and lots more really. A big box pulling together all the Chicago stuff would be great. If you lived in the NYC area at the time your perspective would have been skewed in exactly the opposite direction. At the time these came out they were in all the NYC record stores and the music was happening live every night and most afternoons too. I'm sure there are a lot of personal favorites people have, and one listener's 'classic' is another's 'so what'. FWIW, I think the label did get a bit diluted over the years but I can't do without the WSQ albums, Cecil and Max at McMillan Theatre, Beaver Harris In:Sanity, several of those Murray Octets but particularly Ming, Andrew Hill's Strange Serenade, Hemphill's Raw Materials and Residuals, and in general anything that had producer Giacomo Pelliciotti's name on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILLYQ Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 I recall in that time period seeing these releases in a number of stores in NYC and buying a bunch. There were also gigs galore. I recall seeing David Murray in a quartet with Blood Ulmer, WSQ, etc and I could have seen a bunch more if I had a few more $$ then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 There was also a time when BS/SN were distributed in the US by Polygram; they imported copies from Italy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffpeterson Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) Amazon.uk now making the upcoming 4 box sets available for preorder. I did a comparison between amazon.uk and amazon.fr and found virtually no difference in net cost shipped to me in the U.S. Amazon.de is considerably more expensive. On a different matter, there are Ebay auctions for individual cds by the various artists whose Black Saint recordings have now been issued by camjazz in boxes and which auctions have not recevied bids even at starting prices of #10.00. Edited June 2, 2011 by cliffpeterson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 (edited) I got impatient waiting for Amazon UK to list the boxes so I ordered from Amazon France. Price is about the same only I didn't qualify for free shipping so I'm about £4.00 down though if the dates are right it looks like I may get the a week or two earlier. Edited June 2, 2011 by JohnS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Dusty Groove had them listed yesterday, though not at the prices available from Europe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffpeterson Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Jazzloft has them also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PHILLYQ Posted June 2, 2011 Report Share Posted June 2, 2011 Jazzloft has them also. Jazzloft's prices are signifigantly higher than Amazon.fr Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyles Posted June 3, 2011 Report Share Posted June 3, 2011 I ordered the Dixon, Braxton and Murray sets from Dusty Groove on Tuesday. Hoping to possibly receive them today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted June 14, 2011 Report Share Posted June 14, 2011 Just received the Murray set from Amazon Fr. Looking forward to reaquainting myself with the music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Van Basten II Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Ordered the Braxton, Konits and Lacy from Amazon UK, it's even cheaper than France and considering we have a postal strike here, I'm not in a hurry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted June 15, 2011 Report Share Posted June 15, 2011 Got Murray and Braxton today, expecting Lacy and Konitz tomorrow! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted July 19, 2011 Report Share Posted July 19, 2011 (edited) Grooves Inc. prices look pretty, pretty good. Edited July 19, 2011 by Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted July 21, 2011 Report Share Posted July 21, 2011 Grooves Inc. prices look pretty, pretty good. Thanks for the heads up. I just ordered Konitz, Lacy, Murray from them for $96.54 delivered. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 (edited) The only problem with Grooves Inc is, they don't have the Anthony Braxton or George Russell. Edited July 28, 2011 by Peter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patrick Posted July 28, 2011 Report Share Posted July 28, 2011 Yep. I waited for awhile and then purchased the Russell from amazon.uk. May do something similar for Braxton. Lots of BN/SN to listen to in the mean time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeBop Posted August 25, 2011 Report Share Posted August 25, 2011 Wandered into the local FNAC today. They were just loaded with these temptations. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz_Thrash Posted September 13, 2011 Report Share Posted September 13, 2011 First: Hi to everyone, because this is my firs post, although I have been read the forum since a long time. Speaking about Black Saint / Soul Note box sets, I have all of them, and the last that I purchased was DAVID MURRAY, because I had 3 of 5 CD's included yet. Anyway, I have a little doubt: I think that the remastered work has a little fault in the "New Life" CD. If you listen to "Blues In The Pocket", you will listen to Craig Harris' trombone solo (from 5 minutes to the end) at an extremely low volume in the mix, while the other instruments are balanced. Has anyone more noticed this? If this is true in every copy from that CD, it will be the first "bad" remaster from these boxes, because the others have a very improved sound. Greets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted September 14, 2011 Report Share Posted September 14, 2011 First: Hi to everyone, because this is my firs post, although I have been read the forum since a long time. Speaking about Black Saint / Soul Note box sets, I have all of them, and the last that I purchased was DAVID MURRAY, because I had 3 of 5 CD's included yet. Anyway, I have a little doubt: I think that the remastered work has a little fault in the "New Life" CD. If you listen to "Blues In The Pocket", you will listen to Craig Harris' trombone solo (from 5 minutes to the end) at an extremely low volume in the mix, while the other instruments are balanced. Has anyone more noticed this? If this is true in every copy from that CD, it will be the first "bad" remaster from these boxes, because the others have a very improved sound. Greets! Hi, it's always nice to welcome another Murray fan to the board. I'm not sure it's a fault, I think he's just off mic or not plugged in. He sounds a tad distant on Morning song too. I no longer have the vinyl so I can't compare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz_Thrash Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Hi, it's always nice to welcome another Murray fan to the board. I'm not sure it's a fault, I think he's just off mic or not plugged in. He sounds a tad distant on Morning song too. I no longer have the vinyl so I can't compare. David Murray fan, and John Zorn fan, Wadada Leo Smith fan, Miles Davis fan, Charles Mingus fan... etc... Many thanks for your answer: probably you are right. I don't have the original vinyl, but in the first CD reissue, mastering volume is a bit different and for that reason Harris seems to be more present in the record. Anyway, I think that this idea from CAM jazz is good: a cheap form to have a great part of last seventies and eighties Jazz. It deserves the buying, although you have any of the CD included in each box. Any bet about the next bunch of boxes? Greets! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted September 16, 2011 Report Share Posted September 16, 2011 Jazz Thrash, just want to say welcome to the board! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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