J.A.W. Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Well, to be honest when I choose to buy many of these reissues it is for the improved sound. Maybe it's just me, maybe it's my system, likely it's me and my system both, but most of them are an improvement sonically to my ears. I bought the Evans in the last "OJC Remaster" box because I want to have all the Evans Riverside and Milestone material, music that I really enjoy deeply, in better sound than the original cd releases. I'm nearing completion of that goal for the albums released at the time. When I replace one, I give or trade or sell off the original. It seems evident to me that the labels have their own way of looking at what titles to release, right or wrong. I know that others have reported here on the board Michael Cuscuna's maxim that a reissue is going to sell proportionally no better than the original in almost all cases. Concord must feel they can put out the "core" titles over and over and guarantee enough sales from new listeners and also those such as myself who will upgrade certain titles. Lon, which Evans box are your talking about? Maybe the Village Vanguard box, which is spectacular in every regard (including low price). Sorry s, the "box" was really a typo, I meant issues, individual cds. I meant the recent "Waltz for Debbie." I'm buying any part of the Riverside/Milestone Evans box set that is K2 or 24 bit remastered, etc. Lon - have you compared Waltz for Debbie to the Evans Village Vanguard box (which contains Waltz for Debbie) from a few years ago? The title is "Waltz for Debby". Bill Evans dedicated the song to his niece Debby - see Peter Pettinger's Evans bio "How My Heart Sings". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Sorry, I spelled that wrong. My favorite cousin is Debbie, and my last boss was Debbie. I've never really known a Debby, and didn't think to spell it that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeith Posted March 7, 2011 Report Share Posted March 7, 2011 I've just made a very cursory comparison so far s. They seem essentially the same. Lon, I have listened carefully for a week, and while they are close, I have a slight preference for the new OJC remaster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisp Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Three more titles coming: Moon Beams, The Bill Evans Trio The Quintet: Jazz At Massey Hall Misterioso, Thelonious Monk Quartet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 Gee, how exciting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted May 9, 2012 Report Share Posted May 9, 2012 yawn Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisp Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Only sayin... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Only sayin... Yes, but we want someone to blame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Only sayin... Yes, but we want someone to blame... The shame is that Fantasy was actually starting to do some credible reissue packages (Stitt's Bits, Red Garland at the Prelude, the three Coltrane boxes, the Miles Quintet box, the Evans VV box, etc.) before they sold the catalog to Concord. So much more that could have been done along those lines. Now we're back to this. This, and "..... Plays for Lovers", and the beloved Andorrans doing the only intelligent reissue packaging. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 I want that missing Ahmed Abdul-Malik album... and the Sonny Red w/Teef! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 I want that missing Ahmed Abdul-Malik album... and the Sonny Red w/Teef! The Sonny Red with Teef is on the recently issued Sonny Red 2 CD set on Fresh Sound. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted May 10, 2012 Report Share Posted May 10, 2012 Yes, but like me I know that Flurin would prefer to have one remastered by Tarantino from the original tapes. The Fresh Sound isn't all that it could be if the tapes were there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) There is an extra track, 'Conception', on this new issue of Ugetsu. Bertrand. Edited May 11, 2012 by bertrand Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 [so much more that could have been done along those lines. I was hoping for a Dolphy/Little Five Spot box (Tarantino remastered, in recorded order), but alas ... . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Aaarg, these extra tracks keep annoying me... I'm buying these albums for the third time now...And indeed I'd have loved a proper Fantasy reissue of the missing Red album! As things are now, I guess we all ought to be glad about those Fresh Sound reissues, but I still don't like them, even if I buy some now and then (the Lenny McBrowne for instance). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisp Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Only sayin... Yes, but we want someone to blame... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Only sayin... Yes, but we want someone to blame... The shame is that Fantasy was actually starting to do some credible reissue packages (Stitt's Bits, Red Garland at the Prelude, the three Coltrane boxes, the Miles Quintet box, the Evans VV box, etc.) before they sold the catalog to Concord. So much more that could have been done along those lines. Now we're back to this. This, and "..... Plays for Lovers", and the beloved Andorrans doing the only intelligent reissue packaging. I think you have this slightly incorrect, if I'm not mistaken. Those projects may have been conceived when Fantasy still owned the catalogue, but they were released after Concord bought the catalogue. So, if anyone at Concord still has a brain inside their head, there may be hope yet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Internet rumors suggest that a "Plays for Haters" series is imminent. (Produced by Manfred Eicher and remastered by Rudy Van Gelder. Liner notes by Stanley Crouch.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Internet rumors suggest that a "Plays for Haters" series is imminent. (Produced by Manfred Eicher and remastered by Rudy Van Gelder. Liner notes by Stanley Crouch.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Man Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Internet rumors suggest that a "Plays for Haters" series is imminent. (Produced by Manfred Eicher and remastered by Rudy Van Gelder. Liner notes by Stanley Crouch.) Artwork by....................? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 Thomas Kinkade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 I was OK with buying the 'Conception' bonus tracks as an MP3 rather than buy a whole new copy, but not everyone wants to go that route. Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Head Man Posted May 11, 2012 Report Share Posted May 11, 2012 (edited) Thomas Kinkade. or Vladimir Tretchikoff? Edited May 11, 2012 by Head Man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 Just noticed I've had the "new" "Ugetsu" for some months, so it's not that new... anyway, "Kyoto" is now the only of the three Blakeys I've only bought once. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted May 12, 2012 Report Share Posted May 12, 2012 1336748282' post='1195224'] 1336666536' post='1195017'] 1336665782' post='1195014'] 1336665190' post='1195010'] Only sayin... Yes, but we want someone to blame... The shame is that Fantasy was actually starting to do some credible reissue packages (Stitt's Bits, Red Garland at the Prelude, the three Coltrane boxes, the Miles Quintet box, the Evans VV box, etc.) before they sold the catalog to Concord. So much more that could have been done along those lines. Now we're back to this. This, and "..... Plays for Lovers", and the beloved Andorrans doing the only intelligent reissue packaging. I think you have this slightly incorrect, if I'm not mistaken. Those projects may have been conceived when Fantasy still owned the catalogue, but they were released after Concord bought the catalogue. So, if anyone at Concord still has a brain inside their head, there may be hope yet. I'll never forget Chuck's prescient words about getting the OJCs while you could when the sale was first announced. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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