Durium Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 (edited) RONNIE CUBER RONNIE I remember how I was fascinated hearing someone play the baritone saxophone. I listened to Gerry Mulligan 1954 Salle Pleyel concert more then a hundred times, before I learned about other great instrumentalists like Adrian Rollini, Serge Challof, Leo Parker and Pepper Adams. Most of them are gone now. Ronnie Cuber knows how to play this instrument in both the lower as the upper registers and is labeled as the jazz's greatest living baritone saxophonists. Ronnie Cuber - a Tribute to the Past: Ronnie Durium Edited May 4, 2010 by Durium Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Some good candidates, although I always think the question should read "of the choices given", and I'd likely pick one of the given choices, although we mustn't forget: Harry Carney Lars Gullin Cecil Payne Joe Temperley Hamiett Bluiett Gary Smulyan Scott Robinson Nick Brignola ....and of course, our very own Duke City (Glenn Kostur). He laid down a few choruses at a concert we did two weeks ago that were truly burning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnymax Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 of course, it's a baritone saxomaphone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 I would probably vote for Nick Brignola if he were on the list. Of those listed, I really like Leo Parker's two Blue Note dates, but there really isn't enough there to declare him a clear winner in my mind. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeCity Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Thanks for the shout out, Paul! When I first got into playing baritone, the list of guys who became my primary influences definitely included Ronnie Cuber (I wore out a copy of "Cuber Libre" on Xanadu). Also on the list: Pepper Adams Nick Brignola Bruce Johnstone (Woody's band, Maynard's band, and a funk group called New York Mary) and some Gerry Mulligan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 My personal favorite is Pepper Adams. I wish more musicians played the baritone sax. We have a very very large number of good tenor players, but only a tiny number of strong baritone saxophonists. It seems far more people play the soprano sax than the baritone sax, but I much prefer to hear the baritone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DukeCity Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 My personal favorite is Pepper Adams. I wish more musicians played the baritone sax. We have a very very large number of good tenor players, but only a tiny number of strong baritone saxophonists. It seems far more people play the soprano sax than the baritone sax, but I much prefer to hear the baritone. I hear you. And the reason is... ...the schlep. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rpklich Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 The first time I heard Ronnie Cuber was when he was with Eddie Palmieri. There are lots of really good baritone players still around. Some living ones: Jim Hartog, Dave Sewelson, Clare Daly, Carlo Actis Dato, Howard Johnson, Alex Harding, Glenn Wilson, Roger Rosenberg..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 The first time I heard Ronnie Cuber was when he was with Eddie Palmieri. There are lots of really good baritone players still around. Some living ones: Jim Hartog, Dave Sewelson, Clare Daly, Carlo Actis Dato, Howard Johnson, Alex Harding, Glenn Wilson, Roger Rosenberg..... Gary Smulyan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Lark Ascending Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 (edited) Not wanting to get into any 'who's best?' debates but John Surman is still going strong with a vast and varied catalogue. Saw him just the other day in fine fettle. I think he's earned his place alongside the others. Edited May 4, 2010 by Bev Stapleton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 (edited) Rollini and that guy who used to play with Condon all the time (why can't I remember anybody's names anymore?). Ernie.......... Caceres - also, don't forget Jack Washington. Edited May 4, 2010 by AllenLowe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Ellington clearly knew who were tops: his "Prima Bara Dubla" featured Carney and Mulligan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Gotta go for Ronnie. I've got a huge bunch of his stuff from his early days with Slide Hampton to nowadays. He never fails to be exciting.Leo Parker would be #2 for me. It's not just his 2 BN albums. I've got his King LP with Bill Jennings, which I like very much and a bunch of Savoy sides with Dex and Jug which are all very good. But, sadly, it's still not very much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Magnificent Goldberg Posted May 4, 2010 Report Share Posted May 4, 2010 Other baritone players I like a lot, who aren't mentioned, are Hank Crawford, Leroy "Hog" Cooper, Jerome Richardson, Charles Davis and Paul Williams. Babe Clarke has a great sound in ensemble work, too. MG Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Harry and Serge. My list has ended. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 WHAT! no James Carter? C'mon guys!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 WHAT! no James Carter? C'mon guys!!! Are you kidding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Carney, Chaloff, and Lars Gullin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 Is Gullin from Belgium? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 WHAT! no James Carter? C'mon guys!!! Are you kidding? I am as serious as a heart attack uncle chuck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bright Moments Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 sorry. no apology necessary - hard to argue with the talent of the critics' choice award for baritone saxophone three years in a row from Down Beat magazine Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 That is not my job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 (edited) Ronnie Cuber's a bad motherfucker. http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1376u_lionel-hampton-and-his-orchestra_music Ok, let's try a simple link, then, since the media won't show: http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1376u_lionel-hampton-and-his-orchestra_music Edited May 5, 2010 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted May 5, 2010 Report Share Posted May 5, 2010 The young Gullin: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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