Christiern Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Immortalized on CD by uh 'Solar Records'... No -- first on this cd in 1988: http://allmusic.com/album/sharp-edge-r159961 I know. Sadly for me, I did know. But I think that first one may have been rather more on the licensed side than the one that is now on sale... Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Also saw George a few times: in '79 at the Keystone Korner w/Hilton, Eddie Moore, Herbie Lewis. Again in '81 at the KK with the same band except Higgins instead of Moore. '87 at Bradley's with Hilton and Ray Drummond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtiny Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I saw Coleman in the mid-80's at Jonathan Swift's in Harvard Square with a one-off band. Coleman, Kenny Barron, Buster Williams, and I think Louis Hayes on drums. At one point, they were playing some burning ass tune with lots of changes. During his solo Coleman starting modulating around into all sorts of keys (something he's known for) and Kenny Barron was just kind of laughing and shaking his head while trying to keep up. It was pretty funny and keep up he did! bigtiny Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 At one point, they were playing some burning ass tune with lots of changes. During his solo Coleman starting modulating around into all sorts of keys (something he's known for) and Kenny Barron was just kind of laughing and shaking his head while trying to keep up. It was pretty funny and keep up he did! bigtiny Yeah, that´s the way how he did it. A topnotch musician, he had it all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Weiss Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 My first gig at Bradley's (1988) was a week with George Coleman and Bob Cranshaw on electric bass and.... no drums. Pressure? Noooo... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 My first gig at Bradley's (1988) was a week with George Coleman and Bob Cranshaw on electric bass and.... no drums. Pressure? Noooo... THAT sounds intense! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 I saw George Coleman live in the early 1980's with a European rhythm section - I only remember drummer Tony Inzalaco. Tom Nicholas, my first conga drum teacher, who had been playing with Coleman's octet in Philadelphia, was sitting in - nice grrove and all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 For years the only Coleman I knew was with Miles, and I was very underwhelmed. Then I saw him some time in the '80s at Fat Tuesdays and he blew me away. He played tenor, soprano, and fabulous alto. How much has he recorded on alto? I saw him several times after and his mileage varied, but at the North Sea Festival in 2000 (w/ John Hicks) I remember a particularly gripping ballad performance, but I forget the tune. I caught him with Michael and Louis Hayes and I think John Weber at Smoke a couple of years after that and I think he stuck to tenor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Manhattan Panorama has at least one track where he plays alto, but his tenor on 'Soul Eyes" (Live at Yoshi's) is one for the ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Tom, I just remembered that I saw the octet once at a free outdoor show in midtown Manhattan--you might have shot some photos of it. Maybe late '70s? I remember Harold Vick and Frank Strozier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 (edited) No, wasn't there but I heard the octet a couple of times. That reminds me of drummer Keno Duke, who had led bands with Big George, Mabern, Stroizer, Julius Watkins and others, with 6 and 7 pieces. Maybe that inspired George. Edited January 26, 2012 by marcello Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 Coleman can be heard on alto on some early sessions (Lee Morgan, Max Roach), I think. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 George plays alto on a couple of tracks of "My Horns Of Plenty" too. Nice CD but the bass was recorded too closely. I hear whirring sounds as Ray Drummond slides his fingers up and down the strings. It drives me nutty sometimes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I really like George Coleman's playing. I last saw him at the beginning of this year at the Jazz Standard in NYC. It was so sad. He had lost his chops. In fact the person that checked your reservations at the door had to grab his horn and come on stage to play with George. It reminded me of the last years of Freedie Hubbard and how he lost his chops on the trumpet. Has anyone seen him live in the past 5 to 6 months? I may go and see him at Birdland, but I don't want to see a prize fighter fight one too many fights. Beautiful sound. I sure hope he doesn't lose that. It's one of the best. I also like his harmonic ideas. I don't always go for tenor players running chords and I think George does more than that. He's a thinker. Sometimes working things out somewhat is a viable approach. With that approach when one is inspired there are options. He was pretty inspired IMO on his solo on Dolphin Dance. Very well worth studying. You also can tell a guy's good when he's exposed, and on the duet record he made with---I think---Tete Montelu (sp?) he's right out there and it holds up beautifully. I remember a wise statement by Eddie Harris in a radio interview. He said something like 'you wanna hear where a tenor player's really at? Pan down the rhythm section and see if you still can pat your foot to him.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I really like George Coleman's playing. I last saw him at the beginning of this year at the Jazz Standard in NYC. It was so sad. He had lost his chops. In fact the person that checked your reservations at the door had to grab his horn and come on stage to play with George. It reminded me of the last years of Freedie Hubbard and how he lost his chops on the trumpet. Has anyone seen him live in the past 5 to 6 months? I may go and see him at Birdland, but I don't want to see a prize fighter fight one too many fights. Beautiful sound. I sure hope he doesn't lose that. It's one of the best. I also like his harmonic ideas. I don't always go for tenor players running chords and I think George does more than that. He's a thinker. Sometimes working things out somewhat is a viable approach. With that approach when one is inspired there are options. He was pretty inspired IMO on his solo on Dolphin Dance. Very well worth studying. You also can tell a guy's good when he's exposed, and on the duet record he made with---I think---Tete Montelu (sp?) he's right out there and it holds up beautifully. I remember a wise statement by Eddie Harris in a radio interview. He said something like 'you wanna hear where a tenor player's really at? Pan down the rhythm section and see if you still can pat your foot to him.' The duet record, called "Convergence" (from 1990) is with the wonderful Richie Beirach. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I really like George Coleman's playing. I last saw him at the beginning of this year at the Jazz Standard in NYC. It was so sad. He had lost his chops. In fact the person that checked your reservations at the door had to grab his horn and come on stage to play with George. It reminded me of the last years of Freedie Hubbard and how he lost his chops on the trumpet. Has anyone seen him live in the past 5 to 6 months? I may go and see him at Birdland, but I don't want to see a prize fighter fight one too many fights. Beautiful sound. I sure hope he doesn't lose that. It's one of the best. I also like his harmonic ideas. I don't always go for tenor players running chords and I think George does more than that. He's a thinker. Sometimes working things out somewhat is a viable approach. With that approach when one is inspired there are options. He was pretty inspired IMO on his solo on Dolphin Dance. Very well worth studying. You also can tell a guy's good when he's exposed, and on the duet record he made with---I think---Tete Montelu (sp?) he's right out there and it holds up beautifully. I remember a wise statement by Eddie Harris in a radio interview. He said something like 'you wanna hear where a tenor player's really at? Pan down the rhythm section and see if you still can pat your foot to him.' The duet record, called "Convergence" (from 1990) is with the wonderful Richie Beirach. I never heard of that one before, and would like to hear it. But my addled brain does seem to recall a recording with Montelu. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 http://allmusic.com/album/convergence-r182507 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I never heard of that one before, and would like to hear it. But my addled brain does seem to recall a recording with Montelu. http://www.allmusic.com/album/meditation-r136801 As you can see, the proper spelling is Montoliu (and our own EKE BBB is the expert in all things Tete!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hardbopjazz Posted January 31, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I really like George Coleman's playing. I last saw him at the beginning of this year at the Jazz Standard in NYC. It was so sad. He had lost his chops. In fact the person that checked your reservations at the door had to grab his horn and come on stage to play with George. It reminded me of the last years of Freedie Hubbard and how he lost his chops on the trumpet. Has anyone seen him live in the past 5 to 6 months? I may go and see him at Birdland, but I don't want to see a prize fighter fight one too many fights. Beautiful sound. I sure hope he doesn't lose that. It's one of the best. I also like his harmonic ideas. I don't always go for tenor players running chords and I think George does more than that. He's a thinker. Sometimes working things out somewhat is a viable approach. With that approach when one is inspired there are options. He was pretty inspired IMO on his solo on Dolphin Dance. Very well worth studying. You also can tell a guy's good when he's exposed, and on the duet record he made with---I think---Tete Montelu (sp?) he's right out there and it holds up beautifully. I remember a wise statement by Eddie Harris in a radio interview. He said something like 'you wanna hear where a tenor player's really at? Pan down the rhythm section and see if you still can pat your foot to him.' The last two time I did see him, which was after the gig I first mentioned, he sounded great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 I never heard of that one before, and would like to hear it. But my addled brain does seem to recall a recording with Montelu. http://www.allmusic.com/album/meditation-r136801 As you can see, the proper spelling is Montoliu (and our own EKE BBB is the expert in all things Tete!) Thanks. My shrinking (unincredible) brain also thanks you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 31, 2012 Report Share Posted January 31, 2012 It was released back in the day on Muse, back in the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 Just ordered this today after reading Max Harrison's review of it in ESSENTIAL JAZZ RECORDS V. 2. The version of "Soul Eyes" here is really fantastic! If fact, everyone here is playing at his best: George Coleman - At Yoshi's 08/01/1987 Evidence Credits: George Coleman - Sax (Tenor), Harold Mabern - Piano Ray Drummond - Bass Alvin Queen - Drums 01 - They Say It's Wonderful 02 - Good Morning Heartache 03 - Laig Gobblin' Blues 04 - Io 05 - Up Jumped Spring 06 - Father 07 - Soul Eye Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonnymax Posted June 27, 2013 Report Share Posted June 27, 2013 It was released back in the day on Muse, back in the day. Actually, it was issued in 1977 on Timeless: And then re-released on the Timeless/Muse label two years later: A good album, for sure, but it pales in comparison to the aforementioned Convergence: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Weiss Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 I'll be back up at Smoke with George next week, December 19-22, with Eric Alexander, John Webber and Joe Farnsworth. Live at Smoke, October, 2019 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted December 11, 2019 Report Share Posted December 11, 2019 Listened to it yesterday again. Shortly after this I saw him live, most of the stuff from "Amsterdam". Fantastic ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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