Jazz Vinyl Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Can someone provide generational reference for Prestige gold and black trident labels. The record in question is Red Holloway with Brother Jack McDuff - "Cookin' Together". I have seen 3 different labels for this record - yellow & black, black trident and gold trident (blue trident too?). Can these labels be put into chronological release order? What was the purpose of the black and gold trident labels? Were the gold & black labels used often? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcello Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Here's a start: Red Holloway With Brother Jack McDuff Quartet Red Holloway (ts) Brother Jack McDuff (org, p) George Benson (g) Wilfred Middlebrooks (b) Joe Dukes (d) Los Angeles, CA, February 6, 1964 Wives And Lovers Prestige 45-300, PRLP 7325 This Can't Be Love Prestige PRLP 7325 Something Funny Prestige PRLP 7325, PR 7778 Brother Red Prestige PRLP 7325 Denise Prestige 45-300, PRLP 7325 No Tears Prestige 45-325, PRLP 7325 Shout Brother Prestige 45-325, PRLP 7325, PR 7778 * Red Holloway/Brother Jack McDuff - Cookin' Together (Prestige PRLP 7325; Fantasy OJC 327) * The Best Of Red Holloway And The Soul Organ Giants With Brother Jack McDuff And Lonnie Smith (Prestige PR 7778) * Red Holloway - Denise c/w Wives And Lovers (Prestige 45-300) * Red Holloway - No Tears c/w Shout Brother (Prestige 45-325) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Vinyl Posted October 18, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 Marcello - thanks for your info. What I'm in hopes to learn is Prestige Records use of gold and black trident labels. Did gold or black trident pressings come out before blue trident pressings, after yellow & black? For Red Holloway "Cookin' Together" Prestige record - I have 2 different copies each with a different label - gold trident (PR-7325) and black trident (PRST-7325)...are these older than yellow & black, blue trident pressings? I have rarely seen Prestige black or gold trident pressings. Did Prestige use them often, I wonder when and why? Thanks again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted October 18, 2010 Report Share Posted October 18, 2010 The only gold trident label I ever had/saw was a reissue of Saxophone Colossus from around 1963. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I have a copy of Miles Davis' Steamin' with the gold trident label. There is no address on the label but the album cover has the Bergenfield NJ address. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 can someone post what gold trident looks like? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillF Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Gold trident: Not gold trident: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Gold trident: I'm no expert, but doesn't that look like the early 70s "Fantasy" Prestige label? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I'm no expert, but doesn't that look like the early 70s "Fantasy" Prestige label? Indeed, and that's EXCEEDINGLY common. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 The gold trident label does have the same design as the later Fantasy green label, except it is a deep groove pressing with RVG in the wax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 and it was printed on gold paper stock. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted O'Reilly Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 The gold trident label does have the same design as the later Fantasy green label, except it is a deep groove pressing with RVG in the wax. Hmmm...I thought these devices were used to listen to MUSIC. This seems more like stamp collecting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jazz Vinyl Posted October 19, 2010 Author Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 Here's a picture of the Red Holloway - "Cookin' Together" gold trident label.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 19, 2010 Report Share Posted October 19, 2010 I find it a bit odd that there's no address info in that label. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 i agree jsngry: hmm are these vangelder stamped? are they really legit issues? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 Mine was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted October 21, 2010 Report Share Posted October 21, 2010 RVG in mine also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 ok, sounds good. hope i find one! i told you guys about that rvg stamp that ive never seen him use anywhere, except on this one indian music prestige-of-the-world lp. it was "RVG", but really really really tiny block letters. ive never seen it elsewhere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted October 22, 2010 Report Share Posted October 22, 2010 i told you guys about that rvg stamp that ive never seen him use anywhere, except on this one indian music prestige-of-the-world lp. it was "RVG", but really really really tiny block letters. ive never seen it elsewhere Van Gelder ? Sounds like you might have the much rarer Rajiv Gandhi stamp son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six string Posted November 12, 2010 Report Share Posted November 12, 2010 (edited) I have a gold labeled copy of Eric Dolphy's Outward Bound (w/RVG stamp of course). I read somewhere and it might have been the Goldmine book that it was only used for a short amount of time, like a year or less. Don't know why. Edited November 12, 2010 by six string Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hurmsanford Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Here's a picture of the Red Holloway - "Cookin' Together" gold trident label.... I have an old Miles Davis and the Modern Jazz Giants with the same type label, it's obviously very old and mono. I looked on ebay and they all have the black and yellow label, I'm wondering when they used these all gold labels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 Around '62/64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 21, 2010 Report Share Posted December 21, 2010 i told you guys about that rvg stamp that ive never seen him use anywhere, except on this one indian music prestige-of-the-world lp. it was "RVG", but really really really tiny block letters. ive never seen it elsewhere Van Gelder ? Sounds like you might have the much rarer Rajiv Gandhi stamp son. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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