Markdowns on JSP boxes on Amazon

[Pete B]

I see a selection of JSP boxes marked down to $13.99-17.99 on Amazon here:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/search/ref=sr_nr_n_7?rh=n%3A5174%2Ck%3Ajsp%2Cp_n_format_browse-bin%3A1294041011%2Cn%3A%21301668%2Cn%3A34&bbn=301668&sort=price&keywords=jsp&ie=UTF8&qid=1288613248&rnid=301668

Buy 2 and get free shipping! Nice deal, however long it lasts.

Pete

[medjuck]

Anyone know if the Ellington contains anything not available elsewhere?

[ejp626]

It looks like the Ellington (Clinkscales) more or less covers the same territory as Masters of Jazz 1-5 (without alternative tracks) and about 1/3 of MoJ vol. 6. I may go ahead and get it, since I don't have MoJ or Classics, and they are sure hard to track down now. It doesn't look to me that there is anything new.

[Chalupa]

Thanks for the heads up.

[jostber]

Just ordered the Nuggets Gospel box. Seems like great value. Thanks for the tip.

[medjuck]

It looks like the Ellington (Clinkscales) more or less covers the same territory as Masters of Jazz 1-5 (without alternative tracks) and about 1/3 of MoJ vol. 6. I may go ahead and get it, since I don't have MoJ or Classics, and they are sure hard to track down now. It doesn't look to me that there is anything new.

Thanks. I have the Okeh Ellington and the Decca Early Ellington box and the RCA big box as well as vol 1 of the MOJ. Is there going to be much in the JSP I don't have?

[Chuck Nessa]

Not enough to make it worthwhile for me. You will get about 1 disc worth of new material, including a couple of sideman gigs backing singers.

I suggest printing out the contents and checking off the titles you have. That's what I did.

Edited November 1, 2010 by Chuck Nessa

[medjuck]

Thanks. That's one thing I like about the web-- we don't have to duplicate each other's research. Next time something like this comes up, let me know and I'll see if I can do it for you.

[mjzee]

Oh man, this is gonna hurt...but thanks! I've been looking at a lot of these boxes for awhile; will probably spring for Gennett Jazz, Breaking Out of New Orleans, Paramount Jazz, and Cantors Klezmorim & Crooners. There are more boxes on sale than on the originally posted link; you just gotta poke around... I have a few of these boxes already, and can recommend the Louis Armstrong, the first Django, Mississippi Blues, the first Coleman Hawkins, and Paramount (Blues) Masters.

[MomsMobley]

Same here. However, anyone who doesn't already know at least half of this--

Oistrakh EMI

should hop on; it's greater than all Miles Davis reissues, ever, inc. "Plugged Nickel" (which was nice but this is eternal).

Bernstein Sony Mahler & complete Horowitz are also marked down significantly; I highly recommend the latter for those who can afford it; otherwise start with the Scarlatti and go from there.

Not enough to make it worthwhile for me. You will get about 1 disc worth of new material, including a couple of sideman gigs backing singers.

I suggest printing out the contents and checking off the titles you have. That's what I did.

[jazzbo]

Speaking of Bernstein, there's this

Symphony Edition

CD1

1. Beethoven: Symphony No. 1, Op. 21 [1/20,27/1964]

2. Beethoven: Symphony No. 3, Op. 55 [1/27/1964]

CD2

3. Beethoven: Symphony No. 2, Op. 36 [1/6/1964]

4. Beethoven: Symphony No. 7, Op. 92 [5/26/1964]

CD3

5. Beethoven: Symphony No. 4, Op. 60 [5/7/1962]

6. Beethoven: Symphony No. 5, Op. 67 [9/25/1961]

CD4

7. Beethoven: Symphony No. 6, Op. 68 [5/13/1963]

8. Beethoven: Symphony No. 8, Op. 93 [10/7/1963]

CD5

9. Beethoven: Symphony No. 9, Op. 125 [5/18/1964]

CD 6

10. Berlioz: Symphonie Fantastique, Op. 14 [5/27/1963]

CD7

11. Bernstein: Symphony No. 1 [5/20/1961]

12. Bernstein: Symphony No. 2 [7/19/1965]

CD8

13. Bernstein: Symphony No. 3 [4/17/1964]

14. Bizet: Symphony in C [5/27/1963]

CD9

15. Blitzstein: Airborne Symphony [10/18/1966]

CD10

16. Brahms: Symphony No. 1, Op. 68 [5/2/1962]

CD11

17. Brahms: Symphony No. 2, Op. 73 [5/29/1962]

18. Brahms: Symphony No. 3, Op. 90 [4/17/1964]

CD12

19. Brahms: Symphony No. 4, Op. 98 [10/9/1962]

20. Chavez: Sinfonia india [4/15/1961]

21. Diamond: Symphony No. 4 [1/13/1958]

CD13

22. Bruckner: Symphony No. 9 [2/4/1969]

CD14

23. Copland: Organ Symphony (Symphony No. 1) [1/3/1967]

24. Copland: Symphony No. 3 [2/17/1966]

CD15

25. Dvorak: Symphony No. 7, Op. 70 [1/28/1963]

26. Franck: Symphony [2/2/1959]

CD16

27. Dvorak: Symphony No. 9, Op. 95 [4/16/1962]

28. Harris: Symphony No. 3 [9/28/1960]

CD17

29. Goldmark: Symphony, Op. 26 [3/21/1968]

30. Hindemith: Symphony [3/7/1967]

CD 18

31. Haydn: Symphony No. 82 [5/7/1962]

32. Haydn: Symphony No. 83 [4/9/1962]

33. Haydn: Symphony No. 84 [5/20/1966]

CD19

34. Haydn: Symphony No. 85 [5/20/1966]

35. Haydn: Symphony No. 86 [3/7/1967]

36. Haydn: Symphony No. 87 [3/21/1967]

CD20

37. Haydn: Symphony No. 93 [12/7/1971]

38. Haydn: Symphony No. 94 [12/16/1971]

39. Haydn: Symphony No. 95 [2/12/1973]

CD21

40. Haydn: Symphony No. 96 [3/5/1973]

41. Haydn: Symphony No. 97 [4/10/1975]

42. Haydn: Symphony No. 88 [1/7/1963]

CD22

43. Haydn: Symphony No. 98 [4/10/1975]

44. Haydn: Symphony No. 99 [10/20/1970]

CD23

45. Haydn: Symphony No. 100 [10/20/1970]

46. Haydn: Symphony No. 101 [2/12/1970]

47. Haydn: Symphony No. 102 [10/31/1962]

CD24

48. Haydn: Symphony No. 103 [2/10/1970]

49. Haydn: Symphony No. 104 [1/27/1958]

CD25

50. Ives: Symphony No. 2 [10/6/1958]

51. Ives: Symphony No. 3 [12/15/1965]

CD26

52. Liszt: Faust Symphony [11/7/1960]

CD27

53. Mahler: Symphony No. 1 [10/4/1966]

54. Mahler: Symphony No. 2: mov. 1 [9/29＆30/1963]

CD28

54. Mahler: Symphony No. 2: mov. 2 - mov. 5

CD29

55. Mahler: Symphony No. 3: mov. 1 - mov. 5 [4/3/1961]

CD30

55. Mahler: Symphony No. 3: mov. 6

56. Thompson: Symphony No. 2 [10/22/1968]

CD31

57. Mahler: Symphony No. 4 [2/1/1960]

CD32

58. Mahler: Symphony No. 5 [1/7/1963]

CD33

59. Mahler: Symphony No. 6 [5/6/1967]

CD34

60. Mahler: Symphony No. 7 [12/15/1965]

CD35

61. Mahler: Symphony No. 8 [4/18‐20/1966]

CD36

62. Mahler: Symphony No. 9 [12/16/1965]

CD37

63. Mahler: Adagio from Symphony No. 10 [4/8/1975]

64. Mendelssohn: Symphony No. 3, Op. 25 [1/13/1964] CD38

CD38

65. Mendelssohn: Symphony No. 4, Op. 90 [1/13/1958]

66. Mendelssohn: Symphony No. 5, Op. 107 [12/29/1966]

CD39

67. Mozart: Symphony No. 36, K. 425 [3/6/1961]

68. Mozart: Symphony No. 40, K. 550 [5/20/1963]

69. Roussel: Symphony No. 3, Op. 42 [9/25/1961]

CD40

70. Mozart: Symphony No. 39, K. 543 [3/27/1961]

71. Mozart: Symphony No. 41, K. 551 [1/25/1968]

CD41

72. Nielsen: Symphony No. 2, Op. 16 [2/12/1973]

73. Nielsen: Symphony No. 4, Op. 29 [2/9/1970]

CD42

74. Nielsen: Symphony No. 3, Op. 27 [5/16/1965]

75. Nielsen: Symphony No. 5, Op. 60 [4/9/1962]

CD43

76. Prokofiev: Symphony No. 1, Op. 25 [3/19/1968]

77. Prokofiev: Symphony No. 5, Op. 100 [2/15/1966]

CD44

78. Saint-Saens: Symphony No. 3 [12/13/1976]

79. Schubert: Symphony No. 5, D. 485 [2/6/1963]

CD45

80. Schubert: Symphony No. 8, D. 759 [3/27/1963]

81. Schubert: Symphony No. 9, D. 944 [1/19/1967]

CD46

82. W.Schuman: Symphony No. 3 [10/17/1960]

83. W.Schuman: Symphony No. 5 [10/20/1966]

84. W.Schuman: Symphony No. 8 [10/9/1962]

CD47

85. Schumann: Symphony No. 1, Op. 38 [10/31/1960]

86. Schumann: Symphony No. 2, Op. 61 [10/10/1960]

CD48

87. Schumann: Symphony No. 3, Op. 97 [10/17/1960]

88. Schumann: Symphony No. 4, Op. 120 [10/10/1960]

CD49

89. Shapiro: Symphony [3/31/1953 monaural]

90. Stravinsky: Symphony of Psalms [4/7/1972: London, EMI Studios]

CD50

91. Shostakovich: Symphony No. 1, Op. 10 [12/14/1971]

92. Shostakovich: Symphony No. 6, Op. 54 [10/14/1963]

CD51

93. Shostakovich: Symphony No. 5, Op. 47 [10/20/1959]

94. Shostakovich: Symphony No. 9, Op. 70 [10/19/1965]

CD52

95. Shostakovich: Symphony No. 7, Op. 60 [10/22/1962]

CD53

96. Shostakovich: Symphony No. 14, Op. 135 [10/8/1976]

97. Sibelius: Symphony No. 3, Op. 52 [10/18/1965]

CD54

98. Sibelius: Symphony No. 1, Op. 39 [3/14/1967]

99. Sibelius: Symphony No. 6, Op. 104 [5/9/1967]

CD55

100. Sibelius: Symphony No. 2, Op. 43 [5/16/1966]

101. Sibelius: Symphony No. 7, Op. 105 [10/12/1965]

CD56

102. Sibelius: Symphony No. 4, Op. 63 [2/1/1966]

103. Sibelius: Symphony No. 5, Op. 82 [3/27/1961]

CD57

104. Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 1, Op. 13 [10/20/1970]

105. Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 2, Op. 17 [10/24/1967]

CD58

106. Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 3, Op. 29 [2/10/1970]

107. Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4, Op. 36: mov. 1 [4/28/1975]

CD59

107. Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 4, Op. 36: mov. 2 - mov. 4 [4/28/1975]

108. Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 5, Op. 64 [5/16/1960]

CD60

109. Tchaikovsky: Symphony No. 6, Op. 74 [2/11/1964]

110. Vaughan Williams: Symphony No. 4 [10/21/65]

New York Philharmonic

London Symphony Orchestra (61,90)

Royal Danish Orchestra (74)

Columbia Symphony Orchestra (89)

Leonard Bernstein, conductor

Edited November 2, 2010 by jazzbo

[MomsMobley]

That is a very good deal for people who don't have much already tho' it leaves the choral & concertante works hanging. Sony is pretty good about mastering their classical so hopefully they'll use best available transfers. One of the minor secrets of vintage classical is that Masterworks series has a # of titles actually RE-MIXED and mastered for first time on cd at budget price: Robert Craft Schoenberg transcriptions; Ormandy Mahler 10; some Szell Mozart; even a Perahia Bartok recital that's actually quite excellent.

SIDENOTE: The rank idiocy of major labels even when do they do excellent things a strong core would like to buy and promote out of love of music?

The forthcoming complete Heifetz Original Jacket set, which I can find ZERO info on except at HMV.Co.Jp

There was similar lag time on the Horowitz-- even question whether it would be avail domestic-- but how hard can this be? They obviously don't give a shit at some level, as there are numerous listings on Amazon which don't list a sets contents-- which is Sony/BMG's fault, not Amazon, they obviously want more info for buyers, not less.

[David]

Not to derail the aside, but does anyone have any opinions of the Charlie Christian and the Coleman Hawkins boxes?

I have little of Hawkins from the 29-39 period (only a few tracks on the RCA Centennial and a Japanese BMG Victor release entitled "Body and Soul"), and no 'dedicated' Charlie Christian.

I'm not a stickler for sound -- as long as its better than the 1943-44 Prestige Duke Ellington Carnegie Hall Concerts, I'm fine.

Also, the Waller sets look fantastic as well. Are there any recommendations for a specific volume or volumes for someone who only has the RCA Centennial collection?

Thanks!

[mikelz777]

I'd recommend Coleman Hawkins' 4-Cd "Bebop Years" put out by Proper if you don't already have his stuff from that era. Right now you can get it new for less than $14.00.

Edited November 2, 2010 by mikelz777

[cliffpeterson]

I have not been able to figure out if the more recent Reinhardt box set, The Postwar Recordings 1944-1953, has any overlap with previous sets JSP issued. does anybody know?

[lipi]

I have not been able to figure out if the more recent Reinhardt box set, The Postwar Recordings 1944-1953, has any overlap with previous sets JSP issued. does anybody know?

Yes, it overlaps with both the "London and Paris" and "Rome" sets. It has some stuff (after 1950) that's not on either of those, though. I believe most of it is overlap, but I don't have it handy with me right now to check.

And thanks for the heads-up, medjuck!

[lipi]

Not to derail the aside, but does anyone have any opinions of the Charlie Christian and the Coleman Hawkins boxes?

I really enjoy the Christian. The same tunes appear many times, the solos are different, but there's still a lot of "hey-that-sounds-similar" going on. Anyway: it's a great complement to the Genius of the Electric Guitar box with the studio sides. If I had to pick between the two, I'd go for the studio sides, though.

Also, the Waller sets look fantastic as well. Are there any recommendations for a specific volume or volumes for someone who only has the RCA Centennial collection?

I only have volumes 1 and 4 right now, and I enjoy both. The first has some stuff not under Waller's name (backing singers like Alberta Hunter). The fourth has stuff all under his name. If you don't feel like going complete, I think the 4-disc Proper box ("Handful of Keys") is a very good best-of sort of collection. If you do think you want to go complete, I'd probably start somewhere later in the series, unless you have a strong interest in the singers he's backing earlier on.

Anyone want to post their embarrassingly long list of purchases at this sale? Mine, including lots of non-Jazz:

Fats Waller volumes 2, 3, 5, 6 (I had the other two already)

Gennett Jazz

Bing Crosby: Vintage Years

Bessie Smith volumes 1 and 2

Memphis Minnie volumes 1 and 2 (Country Blues, Delta Blues)

Blind Boy Fuller: 1935-1938

Jook Joint Blues: That's What They Want

Chicago Is Just That Way: 1938-1954

Spreading the Word: Early Gospel Recordings

Nuggets of Golden Age of Gospel: 1945-1958

Clarence Gatemouth Brown: Boogie Uproar: Texas Blues & R&B: 1947-1954

Roy Brown & New Orleans R&B

Classic Doo Wop

Phew! No Mosaic purchases for a while now, I'm afraid.

Edited November 2, 2010 by alex.

[ejp626]

e Coleman Hawkins boxes?

Anyone want to post their embarrassingly long list of purchases at this sale? Mine, including lots of non-Jazz:

Fats Waller volumes 2, 3, 5, 6 (I had the other two already)

I actually had all the Waller sets (I got them at some discount but not these prices).

The only one I got was the Ellington Clinkscales.

I am, however, fairly likely to get the Bernstein Symphonies box on pre-order. (There's enough of an overlap with his Mahler Symphonies box that I will probably part with that -- not that big into the songs.)

[miles65]

My favorite Fats Waller boxes are the first two. Box 2 has the Ted Lewis session. Your life is not complete until you heard "Egyptian Ella".

There's plenty to enjoy on the other boxes as well. Box 3 starts with "African Ripples" and "Clothes Line Ballet". To name just 2 tracks I like very much.

[jazzbo]

Almost any of the Waller boxes is a great choice, the music is so uniformly great. I'll echo Stompy and say the second is a great one. . . .

My guess is the JSP box is likely a rip of the Affinty box set of Hawkins material. The sound on that was okay, so I suspect that this box set will have good sound. Maybe these were taken from Classics discs, again, that's a sign of good sound.

[David]

Thanks for all the replies thus far. It looks like at least one or two of the Waller sets are the essential pickups for me.

I'm likely on the 'wait until later' side of the fence for the Christian or the Hawkins stuff, at least for now.

[romualdo]

I'd recommend the Hawkins box - has been remastered by Ted Kendall

I also have the 10CD hawkins Membran box which is very likely a rip from the Classics CD's - the sound is superior in the JSP set (when comparing overlapping tracks from both sets)

The Shorty Rogers set is very comprehensive & sonically excellent

Looking forward to the second instalments for both of these sets

Edited November 3, 2010 by romualdo

[B. Goren.]

The Shorty Rogers set is very comprehensive & sonically excellent

Seconded!

[dankarlsberg]

Thanks for the heads up! I just ordered the Waller vol. 6 and the Bix/Tram set.

[brownie]

There are a number of highly recommended sets among those JSPs.

Would like to bring attention to the Hoagy Carmichael 'The First of the Singer Songwriters' set.

It even contains material which had not been published before.

Transfers and audio restoration by John R T Davis and Doug Pomeroy!