sidewinder Posted July 19, 2018 Report Share Posted July 19, 2018 Maybe the assumption of these companies is that purchasers will do a one off load of the material into a NAS drive or such like and then stream it, ditching the CD. If so - that sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 Yup, possibly ... and I guess true for many, but not for yours truly Got Vol. 15 and it's a proper CD. Still waiting for some lower volumes that I expect to be all CD-R: Vol. 3-4, 7-9, 11 - I've got Vol. 5 for real, I think thanks to @brownie, and already got that darn CD-R of Vol. 6, Vols. 12-18 are all here, hopefully none of the later ones will be CD-R ... of those I'm missing Vols. 19, 20, 23-25. So far the line runs somewhere between Vol. 6 and Vol. 15, Vol. 11 is the one I'm curious about. -- Other thing: where has the used CD online market gone? (Most likely answer: Amazon killed it with their exalted fees and stopid "service" and shipping restrictions and all that ...) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted July 21, 2018 Report Share Posted July 21, 2018 (edited) Everything I've led is that a CDR does not have the life expectancy of a manufactured CD, which is why I avoid them. Discogs.com is a better alternative than Amazon, for both buying and selling. Amazon (like half.com after the clowns of ebay bought that site) ruined their site for individual sellers with stupid restrictions (like calling all sawcut product promos, when they are frequently closeouts to prevent retails from returning product for full refunds), insane fees for sellers, plus inflated shipping rates of a flate fee per disc (even when buying several items from the same seller) or lowballing the seller in the case of larger boxed sets. The last straw was Amazon's asking of sellers what their sources of new products were. That was hard to answer, as I've bought duplicates in error, gotten gifts of items I already owned, or occasionally found factory sealed CDs at low prices locally that I thought would resell online at a beter price. On Discogs, there are a lot of options, including allowing a buyer to make an offer, matching up with the exact version of the item you want to sell or buy, customized shipping rates, etc. The few disappointments I've had with quality of some items purchased have all been settled with no hassle. Edited July 21, 2018 by Ken Dryden Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 On 23/12/2003 at 6:59 AM, brownie said: These are essential Ellingtons. I had the DETS series when it was released on LPs. Getting the Storyville double CDs now. They include some additional material. This was one of the great Ducal band and what they did offer on those broadcasts is pure joy! Just got volume 8. This will be my Christmas music. Agree with Lon, the sound is excellent! On 23/12/2003 at 6:59 AM, brownie said: These are essential Ellingtons. I had the DETS series when it was released on LPs. Getting the Storyville double CDs now. They include some additional material. This was one of the great Ducal band and what they did offer on those broadcasts is pure joy! Just got volume 8. This will be my Christmas music. Agree with Lon, the sound is excellent! Just received volume 25. It completes my CD series. Hard to grasp there is no more coming.... Wish there will be more material made available like the broadcasts that fill disc 2 of that final volume. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 6, 2018 Report Share Posted August 6, 2018 I actually scored real CDs of several of the lower numbers, too (and I haven't forgot your help with several of these @brownie ) - but about four or five I've not (yet) attempted to find real ones (via Discogs would indeed be the best chance, I guess ... but then you'd have to rely on vendors being honest and knowledgeable enough). Two of the ones I've got are really weird, they look like a mix of CD and CD-R - the colour is less bluish/greenish than with the clearly-CD-R ones, and on the inner ring, there is the usual black serial number (CD-R), but then there is also printed stuff like the catalogue number (which would indicate CD) - I wonder if CD-R printers have become so good that they can reproduce all of that stuff (label, catalogue numbers etc.) by now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted April 20, 2020 Report Share Posted April 20, 2020 Revisiting this series because of a Night Lights show I'm working on that will focus on the April-August 1945 broadcasts while the war was still under way (covered in DETS volumes 1-10). I think the run of DETS releases might provide the most comprehensive extended-stretch portrait that we have of a particular Ellington orchestra in performance--and one that's still operating IMO close to the same elevated realms of the 1939-43 band. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted July 31, 2023 Report Share Posted July 31, 2023 (edited) Digging up this thread for a reason .... I continued digging through the jazz collection that a local record shop got in not long ago (which is where I scored the Complete Keynote Collection box set, as reported elsewhere ), and while digging I noticed the previous owner must have been an Ellington completist (of sorts). And among the records where you start wondering "How many Ellington vinyl does any one man need, let alone how many Ellington LPs can a shop shift within any reasonable time span?" there sit lots and lots of the "D.E.T.S." LPs with their generic white covers (that remind you of the Meritt label, paper inserts and all - probably they came from the same stable (Jerry Valburn?)). It may not be the complete run of the 48 (or so) LPs but certainly several dozen. Priced at 2.50 EUR each. Which looks like a steal. Now my question: Even at that price and considering that storage space isn't unlimited , how much of an Ellington fetishist would one have to be to shell out for this series? FTR, although Duke Ellington is not really at the top of my listening habits I already own quite a few of his recordings on vinyl, including the entire "Complete RCA" series on French RCA, the entire Columbia series reissued by CBS in the 70s, the "Brunswick Recordings" of the early 30s, some Musicrafts, a fair amount of 40s transcriptions (including all 5 "Uncollected" LPs), the Fargo, ND 1940 date, as well as assorted other non-commercial 40s and early 50s recordings - plus a cross-section of his later works up to the early 60s. So I am wondering where to reasonably draw a line ... Edited July 31, 2023 by Big Beat Steve Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 31, 2023 Report Share Posted July 31, 2023 I can't help you, sorry. I had a few volumes on LP, and then bought all 25 two cd sets Storyville put out, which reissues all the Treasury Shows and also other contemporaneous shows to fill out the discs. That's a lot of music. . . but it's music I like! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kh1958 Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 23 hours ago, Big Beat Steve said: "How many Ellington vinyl does any one man need, let alone how many Ellington LPs can a shop shift within any reasonable time span?" You need all the Ellington you can find. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted August 1, 2023 Report Share Posted August 1, 2023 2 hours ago, kh1958 said: You need all the Ellington you can find. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoppy T. Frog Posted August 7, 2023 Report Share Posted August 7, 2023 I was a completist for this series when it ran. Never enough Ellington for me. The music was life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmonahan Posted August 10, 2023 Report Share Posted August 10, 2023 On 8/6/2023 at 5:21 PM, Hoppy T. Frog said: I was a completist for this series when it ran. Never enough Ellington for me. The music was life. As was I. A great series with some fine, fine music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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