Dmitry Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Just bought this title on a Hybrid SACD from Verve, and compared it to my late 1990s Japanese MiniLP cd. The original recording quality appears to have been far from perfect in terms of the microphone positioning, etc, with only Baker in the middle, while the rest of the band is divided sharply between the r & l speakers, almost not mixing. The horns are on the left, while the rhythm section is on the hard right. For what its worth, the sacd sounds fuller, with more definition, than the Japanese cd, but the difference is not tremendous. I did not play the red book layer of the sacd, so can't comment on its sound. The music itself leaves much to be desired, imho, with Chet's singing lacking in pretty much everything that these songs contained when sung by Billie Holiday, on both the musical, as well as the spiritual levels. Just to pile on, the arrangements are nothing to write home about also. I don't know what the circumstances and purpose of this project were originally, but this is not one of my favorites of Chet's. Perhaps if the whole album [nary 30 min. long] were instrumental, I would have enjoyed it more. Also, the packaging of the Verve SACD sucks; the art department massacred the original cover, cutting off the edges of the original LP cover art, and inside the booklet there are some tasteless cartoons, which are supposed to represent Holiday, the band, etc. The graphics are poor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I had a copy of Baker's Holiday years ago. Very disappointing musically with very little of interest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I don't think it's very good either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Certainly not among Chet's best but it is not really THAT bad. A bit too respectful IMO (same goes for Jimmy Mundy's arrangements). I have the gatefold Limelight mono original vinyl and am not bothered by microphone placements The liner notes fail to give the name of the engineer who recorded this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daniel A Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 There's always Hank Jones to listen to, and one or two half-decent Jimmy Mundy arrangements. But I agree that Baker is weak. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Just bought this title on a Hybrid SACD from Verve, and compared it to my late 1990s Japanese MiniLP cd... ...The music itself leaves much to be desired, imho, with Chet's singing lacking in pretty much everything that these songs contained when sung by Billie Holiday, on both the musical, as well as the spiritual levels. Is this the ne plus ultra of audiophilia - trying to find the best sounding version of music you don't like ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted January 4, 2011 Author Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Is this the ne plus ultra of audiophilia - trying to find the best sounding version of music you don't like ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 I dunno, I like this one. But it was some of the first Baker singing I heard, so that probably has something to do with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 The original recording quality appears to have been far from perfect in terms of the microphone positioning, etc, with only Baker in the middle, while the rest of the band is divided sharply between the r & l speakers, almost not mixing. The horns are on the left, while the rhythm section is on the hard right. Very common approach in those days, unfortunately. I'm sure the mono version sounds better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim R Posted January 4, 2011 Report Share Posted January 4, 2011 Certainly not among Chet's best but it is not really THAT bad. A bit too respectful IMO (same goes for Jimmy Mundy's arrangements). I have the gatefold Limelight mono original vinyl and am not bothered by microphone placements I used to have the original vinly also, but I've forgotten... did the liners include the "cartoons" Dmitry refers to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted January 5, 2011 Report Share Posted January 5, 2011 ... did the liners include the "cartoons" Dmitry refers to? Presume they are the same. Credited to Kerig Pope. Most of them are displayed on the four-page insert inside the gatefold jacket. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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brownie Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 Yes, same cartoons on the vinyl album (except the sizes are 12 inches!) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 They should have waited and done this album as a cover of Yellow Submarine instead of Billie Holiday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Beat Steve Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 They should have waited and done this album as a cover of Yellow Submarine instead of Billie Holiday. :lol: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moko Posted January 6, 2011 Report Share Posted January 6, 2011 I almost bought the vinyl of this today...glad I gave it a miss now....keep up the good work of pointing out the albums to avoid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaft Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 I've played the CD a lot But I really prefer the tracks where he does not sing - I think they are really good. What do you guys think of the Baby Breeze? /Shaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chas Posted January 7, 2011 Report Share Posted January 7, 2011 What do you guys think of the Baby Breeze? I think it's easily the stronger of the two Limelight recordings. Unlike Baker's Holiday, I think the addition of the other horn soloists on Baby's Breeze really brings out the best in Chet. Frank Strozier in particular I think spurs Baker in the way he did Conte Candoli in the Shelly Manne quintet of the time. While Baker and Strozier share solo honors on the instrumental tracks, pianist Hal Galper leaves his mark by way of his pen, providing some catchy melodic frameworks for blowing. I do however find that drummer Charlie Rice is sometimes, especially at tempo, overly busy and distracting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shaft Posted January 8, 2011 Report Share Posted January 8, 2011 Thanks for your opinion chas. I like the BB too but my dad hates it! /Shaft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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