Dmitry Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 A simple net search netted that 'Straight Ahead' was originally released in 1959 as the 'The Message' on JARO Records, produced by Manny Albam, and later re-released on Xanadu, some time in the mid-1970s-early 1980s. Jaro Records discography. http://www.bsnpubs.com/nyc/toprank/toprank.html The music on the DIW cd is clearly a transfer from a mono LP. I see that there are at least three incarnations of this date on cd. Does anyone have the non-DIW version? Is it also an lp dub? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Can't answer your question because I have it on a booted LP from sometime in the last decade (which seems slightly murky), but I do want to chime in that it's an excellent session. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 The various vinyl reissues of this album (Xanadu, FreshSound, etc...) I have heard are all needledrops! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I have the Xanadu CD... and frankly didn't even notice it to be a needledrop... so much about me and audiophile sensitivities... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gray Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I have the Fresh Sound CD and one thing I can say for certain is that it is in stereo. I don't hear any LP artifacts but I guess that doesn't mean that it isn't a needledrop - they can work wonders nowadays can't they. I would say the sound is perfectly acceptable without being great, there is some distortion at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I have the Fresh Sound CD and one thing I can say for certain is that it is in stereo. I don't hear any LP artifacts but I guess that doesn't mean that it isn't a needledrop - they can work wonders nowadays can't they. I would say the sound is perfectly acceptable without being great, there is some distortion at times. The Gambit 2CD set? Or was there a single Fresh Sound disc of this one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gray Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Fresh Sound single CD. This one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 That's the same cover used on my Xanadu disc - was this the JARO cover? Wasn't avare of this single disc release. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I used to have the Xanadu LP - and I do not believe it was a needle drop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted February 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 This is the DIW cd cover. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gray Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Here is the JARO LP Cover I just listened to the Fresh Sound CD again all the way through. I do not hear any LP clicks and pops but there is a little distortion on the tenor at times. It could well be an LP that has been through some processing. I don't think I am sufficiently knowledgable to say for certain that this is or is not a needledrop. Definitely stereo though. Has anyone heard the Gambit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) I have the Prevue CD version (PR4- released 1998) Cover is the same as above Prevue "A Division of Classic Records" (© 1998) under licence from Xanadu Records Ltd (1959, 1975) I'm quite sure this is a legit release - certainly doesn't sound like a needle drop Edited February 7, 2011 by romualdo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted February 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Thanks for your input. Looks like I'll have to buy the Fresh Sound cd. Surprised that the DIW release is an LP dub. I thought they were a legit operation. I wonder how this Jaro LP ended up in the Xanadu catalog, and where are the master tapes now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) Surprised that the DIW release is an LP dub. I thought they were a legit operation. I have the Ayler DIW CD The First Recordings, Vol 2 - this is an awful needle drop job & the LP it's been transferred from is littered with pops/cracks etc. Was disappointed when I got this one!! Edited February 7, 2011 by romualdo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnS Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) This is the DIW cd cover. My Xanadu (doesn't sound too bad to me) has this cover except it's in Xanadu's gold. Edited February 7, 2011 by JohnS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gray Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 Thanks for your input. Looks like I'll have to buy the Fresh Sound cd. Surprised that the DIW release is an LP dub. I thought they were a legit operation. I wonder how this Jaro LP ended up in the Xanadu catalog, and where are the master tapes now. That Gambit 2 CD set looks very interesting as an alternative to the Fresh Sound single CD (already have the Blue Note LP) Absolute Distribution I would love to know what the sound is like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I have a memory of an interview with J.R. Monterose (possibly in Cadence) where he said that Don Schlitten did the Xanadu issue by dubbing it from an LP. A person I knew years ago in the Albany area who had some contact with Mr. Monterose said that he was unhappy that Schlitten had issued it, and tried to sue over the fact that his photograph was on the cover of the LP. This last is hearsay, so I don't know if it's so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted February 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 That Gambit 2 CD set looks very interesting as an alternative to the Fresh Sound single CD (already have the Blue Note LP) Absolute Distribution I would love to know what the sound is like. This 2cd set includes J.R.M.'s BN album. This can't be legit, can it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I don't believe there's much about Gambit that's legit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gray Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 (edited) They are theoretically legit in Europe because of the 50 year rule (but not legit in the US). However the labels distributed by Absolute Distribution do seem to issue some stuff less than 50 years old. For example I bought the Monterose Fresh Sound CD long before the session was 50 years old. Of course there are lots of people on this board who won't touch them under any circumstances but sometimes they are the only way of obtaining certain titles. Edited February 7, 2011 by Steve Gray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 They reissue LOTS of recordings that are less than fifty years old. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I have the Prevue CD version (PR4- released 1998) Cover is the same as above Prevue "A Division of Classic Records" (© 1998) under licence from Xanadu Records Ltd (1959, 1975) I'm quite sure this is a legit release - certainly doesn't sound like a needle drop Ah, crap - that one I have of course! Not Xanadu but Prevue! I keep mixing up all these labels, sorry. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 I have the Prevue CD version (PR4- released 1998) Cover is the same as above Prevue "A Division of Classic Records" (© 1998) under licence from Xanadu Records Ltd (1959, 1975) I'm quite sure this is a legit release - certainly doesn't sound like a needle drop The Prevue reissue is indeed legit. They licensed several Xanadu titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dmitry Posted February 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 If, according to Paul, the Xanadu LP was dubbed from the Jaro LP, it makes no sense buying the Xanadu LP to improve the sonics of my DIW cd [i was gearing up to buy the Japanese Xanadu LP]. I wonder if the Fresh Sounds cd was dubbed from an LP as well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Gray Posted February 7, 2011 Report Share Posted February 7, 2011 If, according to Paul, the Xanadu LP was dubbed from the Jaro LP, it makes no sense buying the Xanadu LP to improve the sonics of my DIW cd [i was gearing up to buy the Japanese Xanadu LP]. I wonder if the Fresh Sounds cd was dubbed from an LP as well... Can someone with the Prevue CD please comment on the sound. Does it sound like a needledrop? Is it stereo or mono? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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