JSngry Posted July 22, 2011 Report Share Posted July 22, 2011 Hey, I didn't say it was pretty, I just said it was a future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) It will be very interesting to see if and how this new series develops. I've wished for something of this nature a long time! The live shows are where it was happening. If this first volume is even vaguely successful, let's all hope someone calls Sue Mingus's attention to it. Edited July 23, 2011 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Saving all my money to visit Japan next year and returning to school to study Japanese, but I will allow myself this set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 That 1967 Miles Davis concert at Salle Pleyel was somethin' else! Archie Shepp and his band (with Roswell Rudd) and Thelonious Monk (with Ray Copeland, Jimmy Cleveland, Phil Woods, Charlie Rouse, Johnny Griffin) were also on the bill. Thank God (as they say) for George Wein. He brought so many musicians over here and enabled fans everywhere to see and listen to them! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) That must have been the same week they (the same double bill) played the RFH in London (or was it Hammersmith Odeon?). According to Ian Carr's 'Miles Davis' bio the audience was very divided with the Shepp cohort performance. Half were mesmerised by it, half walked out (or retreated to the bar). Edited July 23, 2011 by sidewinder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rosco Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I thought I was going to have this stuff already (would have bought it even if I had...), but looks like I don't have the Paris, so even moreso...BRING IT ON! The Paris is superb and in excellent sound (even in the bootleg versions) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 So now that the DVD's tracklist is out - is it indeed the same as on the monster box? DVD – Selections: 1. Agitation 2. Footprints 3. I Fall In Love Too Easily 4. Gingerbread Boy 5. The Theme 6. Agitation 7. Footprints 8. ’Round Midnight 9. Gingerbread Boy 10. The Theme. (Tracks 1-6 recorded on November 7, 1967 at the Stadthalle, Karlsruhe, Germany by Südwestfunk TV; tracks 7-11 recorded on October 31, 1967 at the Konserthuset, Stockholm, Sweden by Sveriges Radio TV.) As for Paris 1949... there was an old french CD using this LP cover: Wasn't aware it's rare or anything... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) So now that the DVD's tracklist is out - is it indeed the same as on the monster box? DVD – Selections: 1. Agitation 2. Footprints 3. I Fall In Love Too Easily 4. Gingerbread Boy 5. The Theme 6. Agitation 7. Footprints 8. ’Round Midnight 9. Gingerbread Boy 10. The Theme. (Tracks 1-6 recorded on November 7, 1967 at the Stadthalle, Karlsruhe, Germany by Südwestfunk TV; tracks 7-11 recorded on October 31, 1967 at the Konserthuset, Stockholm, Sweden by Sveriges Radio TV.) As for Paris 1949... there was an old french CD using this LP cover: Wasn't aware it's rare or anything... The info from Sony says that the dvd first appeared officially in the Complete Classic Album box set. The final two tracks on the Paris '49 disc were not on the original lp. Not sure they were on the first Japanese or French cds. . . Edit to add: no, those two were not on the original cds. Not sure where or when they first appeared. Edited July 23, 2011 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 So now that the DVD's tracklist is out - is it indeed the same as on the monster box? DVD – Selections: 1. Agitation 2. Footprints 3. I Fall In Love Too Easily 4. Gingerbread Boy 5. The Theme 6. Agitation 7. Footprints 8. ’Round Midnight 9. Gingerbread Boy 10. The Theme. (Tracks 1-6 recorded on November 7, 1967 at the Stadthalle, Karlsruhe, Germany by Südwestfunk TV; tracks 7-11 recorded on October 31, 1967 at the Konserthuset, Stockholm, Sweden by Sveriges Radio TV.) As for Paris 1949... there was an old french CD using this LP cover: Wasn't aware it's rare or anything... The info from Sony says that the dvd first appeared officially in the Complete Classic Album box set. The final two tracks on the Paris '49 disc were not on the original lp. Not sure they were on the first Japanese or French cds. . . Edit to add: no, those two were not on the original cds. Not sure where or when they first appeared. Thanks - hadn't read it very closely (obviously, DOH) THe French CD has nine tracks: Rifftide Good Bait Don't Blame Me Lady Bird "Wah" "Hoo" (funny spelling) Allen's Alley Embraceable You Ornithology All the Things You Are Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) Okay. Apparently there are four additional performances from the concert that weren't on the lp or the cd. A bootleg cd included all four (but from the amazon reviews the cd was sourced from MP3 tracks and pretty bad). Two of the four now appear on the cd in the Classic Albums Collection box set, "Lover Man" and "The Squirrel." I believe I have the final two selections on a Philology cd as I think they both (?) were jams including other Festival artists, including Bird. Edited July 23, 2011 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 So, had to look up this "Miles Miles Miles" that you all seem to know and own: Never heard of it! If it's as good as "We Want Miles", I'm really hoping Sony will bring this on, too! Same for the Antibes sets by the lost quintet... and the full "Miles at Fillmore" sets. Since these are all Sony-owned, I hope they will be part of this new series or see reissues in some other form! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Losin says... about the additional tracks from Paris: Paris, May 9, 1949 7 The Squirrel 12" LP: Phontastic NOST 7602 CD: Philology Volume 19 (W 849), Jazz Factory JFCD 22882 8 Crazy Rhythm CD: Philology Volume 19 (W 849), Jazz Factory JFCD 22882 9 All the Things You Are CD: Philology Volume 19 (W 849), Jazz Factory JFCD 22882 Paris, May 15, 1949 1 Blues Final (incomplete) [Farewell Blues] (S. Bechet) 4:54 Shorter version (3:46) on all issues except Vogue YX-0001 and JFCD 22882 1 Blues Final (incomplete) 12" LP: Bird in Paris CP-3, Durium-Cicala BLJ-8024, Spotlite LP-118, Toho/Vogue YX-0001 CD: Philology Volume 12 (W 842), Volume 61 (892), FAP 001/3, Jazz Factory JFCD 22882 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I'm pretty certain that the best way to reissue the Miles! Miles! Miles! material would be to just add it on to the released material on We Want Miles! as an expanded reissue (as it's done for the most part in the Classic Album Collection). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Needless to say I'd love to get a proper release of all of this material, but for now I'll just be happy with my old French CD... and I think I might have some of the Philology stuff somewhere, too... but those are such a mess, I rarely think of them since I want to figure out stuff and that takes hours with Philology's Bird's Eyes! I'm pretty certain that the best way to reissue the Miles! Miles! Miles! material would be to just add it on to the released material on We Want Miles! as an expanded reissue (as it's done for the most part in the Classic Album Collection). Yeah... some kind of "Deluxe/Legacy Edition" as Warner just did for "Tutu" would be cool! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) Okay. Well, there's two more tracks of the '49 in the Classic Albums box set version not on the French CBS cd. Reviews indicate to avoid the Jazz Factory cd. It would be really easy to reissue the Tokyo material as the We Want Miles! release in the box set would easily be ready to roll. Just hire one of the regulars to provide the typical breezy liner notes. I think all the material is there from Miles! Miles! Miles! except the half a minute intro edited off Jean-Pierre, which is just sort of a bit of guitar and percussion warming up the the theme. To be honest I was really excited when We Want Miles came out on lp (a lot of it was enjoying the sort of unique recorded sound of Al Foster's drums) but as time goes on I really don't enjoy the material much at all. Not enough to want a box set that included all the recorded tracks from all the shows that We Want Miles was collected from. Miles Davis at Fillmore is another matter altogether. I'd love a box set of every second recorded. Same with the Juan Les Pins 1969 appearances. Edited July 23, 2011 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I was listening to those 'Miles Miles Miles' tracks tagged on to the end of the 'We Want Miles' CDs in the 60CD big box set and to be honest, I thought they didn't come up to the standard of the 'We Want Miles' issued material. A disappointment ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 ok... got to dig out "We Want Miles"... and look around some Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 (edited) I thought I was going to have this stuff already (would have bought it even if I had...), but looks like I don't have the Paris, so even moreso...BRING IT ON! Just listened to the Paris date last night. For years I used to claim its version of "Round Midnight" was really one of THE finest things Miles ever played - specifically his intro to the tune, which I think rivals his original Columbia version. For years, whenever I found other live Miles versions of "Round Midnight" (post-1964) - I always hoped they would rival the Paris '67 version (alas, none ever quite have, IMHO). Jim, if you've never heard this Paris show - you're in for a treat. Don't know that all that Paris show is necessarily better (in total) than any of the others from that tour, but that Paris intro to Round Midnight has been on my desert island list for going on 20 years. Edited July 23, 2011 by Rooster_Ties Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 I like treats! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 how 'bout dutch treats? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Ah, so THAT'S why the little Dutch boy kept his finger in the dike! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Hotforwords teaches you about "Dutch Treat." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Longtime fan of Hotforwords! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Okay. Apparently there are four additional performances from the concert that weren't on the lp or the cd. A bootleg cd included all four (but from the amazon reviews the cd was sourced from MP3 tracks and pretty bad). Two of the four now appear on the cd in the Classic Albums Collection box set, "Lover Man" and "The Squirrel." I believe I have the final two selections on a Philology cd as I think they both (?) were jams including other Festival artists, including Bird. One of the jams "Farewell Blues" with Bird and Bechet is available from Amazon as a download. It's on Bird's Eye Vol. 12. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 23, 2011 Report Share Posted July 23, 2011 Okay. Apparently there are four additional performances from the concert that weren't on the lp or the cd. A bootleg cd included all four (but from the amazon reviews the cd was sourced from MP3 tracks and pretty bad). Two of the four now appear on the cd in the Classic Albums Collection box set, "Lover Man" and "The Squirrel." I believe I have the final two selections on a Philology cd as I think they both (?) were jams including other Festival artists, including Bird. One of the jams "Farewell Blues" with Bird and Bechet is available from Amazon as a download. It's on Bird's Eye Vol. 12. Losin says it's been shortened on most releases, including the Philology Vol. 12 and Vol. 61 (what a mess, these Philology releases!) ones: Shorter version (3:46) on all issues except Vogue YX-0001 and JFCD 22882 12" LP: Bird in Paris CP-3, Durium-Cicala BLJ-8024, Spotlite LP-118, Toho/Vogue YX-0001 CD: Philology Volume 12 (W 842), Volume 61 (892), FAP 001/3, Jazz Factory JFCD 22882 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_forumlogo.png.a607ef20a6e0c299ab2aa6443aa1f32e.png)
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.