J.A.W. Posted December 14, 2011 Author Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 The Al Cohn/Perkins/Kamuca The Brothers is on Last Chance now. ahhhh crap. I don't have it. I like the players on it, but has anyone heard it? Been diggin' it? Nothing spectacular, but nice. It's always good to hear Cohn and Kamuca. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted December 14, 2011 Report Share Posted December 14, 2011 The Al Cohn/Perkins/Kamuca The Brothers is on Last Chance now. ahhhh crap. I don't have it. I like the players on it, but has anyone heard it? Been diggin' it? Nothing spectacular, but nice. It's always good to hear Cohn and Kamuca. Yeah... agreed. But both have made better sessions, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete B Posted December 15, 2011 Report Share Posted December 15, 2011 The Al Cohn/Perkins/Kamuca The Brothers is on Last Chance now. ahhhh crap. I don't have it. I like the players on it, but has anyone heard it? Been diggin' it? Nothing spectacular, but nice. It's always good to hear Cohn and Kamuca. Yeah... agreed. But both have made better sessions, too. I love the arrangement of "Blue Skies" on this cd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles65 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 The J.J. Johnson single is on last chance now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfcrazy1984 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 The J.J. Johnson single is on last chance now. If you like big band music and/or J.J. Johnson, get this NOW! The arrangements are great, the band(s) are FANTASTIC (comprised of first call NY musicians) and the remastered sound quality is STUNNING. Of the Mosaic singles, I like this and the 2 Duke Ellington ones the most. I might just order another one so I have a backup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 Sigh ... I gave in and ordered the J.J., Slide Hampton and Cosmic Scene singles. Shipping charges are comapratively high, that's why I avoided them so far, but I'd kick myself for missing these. Oh well .... this forum will ruin us all ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfcrazy1984 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 You'll love the Cosmic Scene too, Paul Gonsalves is amazing on Body and Soul, the double time section is amazing. This record was done at the 30th St. Columbia studio, so the sound quality is great. Clark Terry and Jimmy Hamilton sound very nice here too. Not to mention the rhythm section I have not gotten the Slide Hampton CD yet. Let us know when you get your shipment and your review! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles65 Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 So far I didn't pay the J.J Johnson single much attention and did not realise that it was a big band session. But I like his writing for the Dizzy Gillespie's Perception. And I just love 1960's bigbands. To make a long story short I caved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfcrazy1984 Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I think a fair comparison is that of Oliver Nelson's 60s Big Band, I think Nelson arranged some of the charts as well as J.J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 (edited) I bit. How many times I'll chew remains to be seen, but I've been a on bit of a big band kick-jag the last few weeks, and this looks good for at least a few listens. 1. El Camino Real © 4:09 (J. J. Johnson) 2. Stolen Moments (B) 5:51 (Oliver Nelson) 3. Train Samba © 6:48 (Gary McFarland) 4. Swing Spring (B) 3:45 (Miles Davis) 5. Bemsha Swing (A) 3:11 (T. Monk-D. Best) 6. My Little Suede Shoes (A) 4:53 (Charlie Parker) 7. So What (A) 4:22 (Miles Davis) 8. Stratusphunk (A) 6:46 (George Russell) 9. Winter's Waif © 5:05 (Gary McFarland) 10. Ally (B) 5:43 * (Tom McIntosh) 11. Supplication (B) 4:15 * (Tom McIntosh) * previously unissued bonus tracks (A) Clark Terry, Ernie Royal, trumpets, fluegelhorns; J.J. Johnson, Jimmy Cleveland, trombones; Tony Studd, bass trombone; Jerry Dodgion, alto sax, flute; Oliver Nelson, alto sax, tenor sax; Jerome Richardson, tenor sax, baritone sax, flute; Hank Jones, piano; Bob Cranshaw, bass; Grady Tate, drums. (B) Thad Jones, Ernie Royal, trumpets, fluegelhorns; J.J. Johnson, Jimmy Cleveland, trombones; Tony Studd, bass trombone; Jerry Dodgion, alto sax, flute, alto flute; Oliver Nelson, alto sax, tenor sax; Ray Beckenstein, baritone sax, bass clarinet, flute; Hank Jones, piano; Bob Cranshaw, bass; Grady Tate, drums. © Jimmy Maxwell, Joe Wilder, trumpets; Thad Jones, Ernie Royal, trumpets, fluegelhorns; J.J. Johnson, Jimmy Cleveland, trombones; Tony Studd, Tom Mitchell, bass trombones; Jimmy Buffington, French horn; Bill Stanley, tuba; Jerry Dodgion, alto sax, flute, alto flute; Harvey Estrin, soprano sax, alto sax, clarinet, flute, alto flute; Oliver Nelson, alto sax, tenor sax, clarinet; Budd Johnson, baritone sax, bass clarinet; Hank Jones, piano; Bob Cranshaw, bass; Grady Tate, drums. Arranged by Oliver Nelson (2), Gary McFarland (3 & 9), Tom McIntosh (10 & 11) and J.J. Johnson (all others). Edited January 25, 2012 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 I have not gotten the Slide Hampton CD yet. Let us know when you get your shipment and your review! Will do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Really enjoy the Ellington, too. The Hampton looks nice, but like something I'd be fine buying on LP. The JJ has some good tune choices but 60s big bands are rarely my cup of tea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 The Hampton really looks good - I have one of the bonus tracks on the compilation which was its first issue, and know it is good. 1. Fump 5:19 (Slide Hampton) 2. Lover 5:03 (R. Rodgers-L. Hart) 3. Like Someone In Love 8:22 (J. Burke-J. Van Heusen) 4. Gallery Groove 4:26 (Slide Hampton) 5. Our Waltz 5:18 (David Rose) 6. It's All Right With Me 3:30 (Cole Porter) 7. Stella By Starlight 3:07 (V. Young-N. Washington) 8. The Drum Suite (parts I-V) 6:53 (Slide Hampton) 9. Well You Needn't 5:44 * (Thelonious Monk) 10. Sleigh Ride 3:14 ** (Leroy Anderson) * bonus track, not part of original LP ** bonus track, previously unreleased Produced by Teo Macero Recorded at Columbia Studio A, New York City in April 1962 Produced for release by Michael Cuscuna Mastered in 24-bit by Mark Wilder, Sony Studios Personnel: On "Our Waltz," "It's All Right With Me," and the drum introduction on "Stella By Starlight": Freddie Hubbard, Hobart Dotson, trumpets; Benjamin Jacobs-El, Slide Hampton, trombones; George Coleman, tenor sax; Jay Cameron, baritone sax; Tommy Flanagan, piano; Eddie Khan, bass; Max Roach, drums. Personnel: On "Drum Suite" (part 3), "Like Someone In Love," "Fump" and "Gallery Groove": Willie Thomas, Hobart Dotson, trumpets; Benjamin Jacobs-El, Slide Hampton, trombones; Yusef Lateef, tenor sax, flute; George Coleman, tenor sax; Jay Cameron, baritone sax; Tommy Flanagan, piano; Eddie Khan, bass; Max Roach, drums. On "Sleigh Ride", "Stella By Starlight" and "Well, You Needn't": Richard Williams, Hobart Dotson, John Bello, trumpets; Benjamin Jacobs-El, Slide Hampton, trombones; George Coleman, tenor sax; Jay Cameron, baritone sax; Tommy Flanagan, piano; Eddie Khan, bass; Vinnie Ruggiero, drums. On "Lover" and "Drum Suite" (parts 1,2, 4 & 5): Same date and personnel as above except Max Roach replaces Vinnie Ruggiero on drums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfcrazy1984 Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'll probably put the Hampton on my order along with the delayed Hawkins box set. Paying $4 on shipping for 1 CD just pisses me off....but I digress. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 Just listened to JJ tonight - GREAT stuff. Get it before it goes OOP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 I'll probably put the Hampton on my order along with the delayed Hawkins box set. Paying $4 on shipping for 1 CD just pisses me off....but I digress. Worse are the Selects. But again, thats a different thread. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I like the JJ date, fine writing well recorded. I could've used some slightly more aggressive rhythm section work, though, especially the drumming. But maybe that's what JJ wanted? But that also asks the question - there's no conductor listed, and usually you need one in the studio, just to handle cues, countoffs, cutoffs, etc, little stuff like that. Maybe JJ did it all.. Wonder if there was one, but just uncredited? Quincy Jones, perhaps? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
golfcrazy1984 Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) Maybe JJ played in front of the band, facing the band, and directed with his trombone? I forget if there were any session photos in the liner notes. I always liked this CD, but now that you say it, I do think a more agressive rhythm section would have inspired the guys a little more. And would have complimented the arrangements better. Edited February 3, 2012 by Jazz Nut Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Who, BTW, was credited for producing J.J. ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Maybe JJ played in front of the band, facing the band, and directed with his trombone? Most likely scenario if there was no conductor. It's a lot to do, but the guy had that kind of detail-oriented mind. Who, BTW, was credited for producing J.J. ? Jack Somerhttp://albumcredits.com/Profile/126927 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 (edited) But that also asks the question - there's no conductor listed, and usually you need one in the studio, just to handle cues, countoffs, cutoffs, etc, little stuff like that. Maybe JJ did it all.. Wonder if there was one, but just uncredited? Quincy Jones, perhaps? Shh. Quincy will claim this one even if he wasn't anywhere near it.. Edited February 3, 2012 by David Ayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 I bet "Jack Somer" is a pseudonym for Quincy Jones. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 But that also asks the question - there's no conductor listed, and usually you need one in the studio, just to handle cues, countoffs, cutoffs, etc, little stuff like that. Maybe JJ did it all.. Wonder if there was one, but just uncredited? Quincy Jones, perhaps? Shh. Quincy will claim this one even if he wasn't anywhere near it.. And there will be folks who will be fine with that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 That non-credited conductor should have been credited, even if he wasn't there or didn't even exist. That's money that needs to be paid! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 3, 2012 Report Share Posted February 3, 2012 Irregardless of AFM shenanigans, the Oliver Nelson solo of "Stratusphunk" is worth more than the cost of admission alone. That guy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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