David Ayers Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 We saw the track list, now here's the album list. Like anyone cares. IMPULSE 50th Anniversary 1. John Coltrane, Ballads 2. Roy Haynes, Out of the Afternoon 3. Quincy Jones, The Quintessence 4. Benny Carter, Further Definitions 5. Freddie Hubbard, The Artistry of Freddie Hubbard 6. Gil Evans, Into the Hot 7. Max Roach, Percussion Bitter Sweet 8. Manny Albam, Jazz Goes to the Movies 9. Shelly Manne, 2-3-4 10. John Coltrane & Johnny Hartman, John Coltrane and Johnny Hartman 11. Sonny Stitt & Paul Gonsalves, Salt and Pepper 12. Charles Mingus, Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus Mingus 13. Terry Gibbs, Take It From Me 14. McCoy Tyner, Today and Tomorrow 15. J.J. Johnson, Proof Positive 16. Chico Hamilton, Passin’ Thru 17. John Coltrane, A Love Supreme 18. Shirley Scott, Queen of the Organ 19. Yusef Lateef, Live at Pep’s 20. Earl Hines, Once Upon A Time 21. Sonny Rollins & Oliver Nelson, Alfie 22. Stanley Turrentine, Let It Go 23. Clark Terry & Chico O’Farrill, Spanish Rice 24. Marion Brown, Three For Shepp 25. Dizzy Gillespie, Swing Low Sweet Cadillac 26. Charlie Haden, Liberation Music Orchestra, Oliver Nelson, More Blues and The Abstract Truth 27. Rolf & Joachim Kuhn Quartet, Impressions of New York 28. Ahmad Jamal Trio, The Awakening 29. Lionel Hampton, You Better Know It!!! 30. Alice Coltrane, Journey in Satchidananda 31. Pharoh Sanders, Thembi 32. John Klemmer, Waterfalls 33. Archie Shepp, Attica Blues 34. Art Blakey & the Jazz Messengers, Jazz!!!!! Messengers!!!!! 35. Gato Barbieri, Chapter 1: Latin America 36. Dewey Redman, The Ear of the Behearer 37. Sam Rivers, Streams 38. Gabor Szabo, Gypsy ‘66 39. Danilo Perez, Central Avenue 40. Michael Brecker, Two Blocks From The Edge 41. Alice Coltrane, Translinear Light 42. Jose James & Jef Neve, For All We Know 43. Zoot Sims, Waiting Game 44. Chico O’Farrill, Nine Flags 45. Albert Ayler, In Greenwich Village 46. Tom Scott, Rural Still Life 47. Michael White, The Land of Spirit and Light 48. Keith Jarrett, Death and the Flower 49. Max Roach – It’s Time 50. Duke Ellington Meets Coleman Hawkins Impulse 50cds 2777143 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisp Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I care! So thanks. As I expected, a mixture of CDs I own, CDs I don't own and CDs I don't want to own. If the sound is significantly better, the packaging is especially attractive and I can get a good discount, I might get this, but that's a lot of ifs. Any pack shots yet? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 If the price for this is cheaper than for a Japanese "Into the Hot", I might care... else this is a very silly compilation. Some uninteresting stuff (who the hell is Jef Neve?!), some rarities (how's the Albam? the Gibbs? the Sims seems not be that great... the Manne is, got the LP, would love to get "Into the Hot" and "Streams" on their own! Also the Szabo). The rest has been around up and down and again... or has little interest (tell me if I'm wrong on the Klemmer and the Tom Scott and the Brecker). Just send me the Gil Evans and Sam Rivers and I'll shut up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 The Albam is pretty good for what it is. I've never been totally grabbed by his writing, though. Appreciate it more than I do connect with it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 If the price for this is cheaper than for a Japanese "Into the Hot", I might care... else this is a very silly compilation. Some uninteresting stuff (who the hell is Jef Neve?!), some rarities (how's the Albam? the Gibbs? the Sims seems not be that great... the Manne is, got the LP, would love to get "Into the Hot" and "Streams" on their own! Also the Szabo). The rest has been around up and down and again... or has little interest (tell me if I'm wrong on the Klemmer and the Tom Scott and the Brecker). Just send me the Gil Evans and Sam Rivers and I'll shut up! You're wrong on the Klemmer. What he did on those Impulse albums was very adventurous and attractive, none of the commercial concessions of his later recordings. In general, I agree this is a pretty bizarre set, and one that will need to justify itself in terms of price and packaging to get me to bite (though some of the titles are very appealing). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 ok, so there are four albums of interest in there... I'll pay 50$ then Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjazzg Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 I'm in for no.26 alone. Haden plays Nelson. Intriguing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted November 7, 2011 Author Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Yes, I too was struggling to understand why item 26 is two albums. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) The Tom Scott is maybe his best record, with Mike Lang, Chuck Domanico and John Guerin, a solid jazz effort with some rockish elements, but they do not dominate. Nice tunes in 7/4, 5/8 etc. - he was pretty much under the Don Ellis influence when he recorded this. Mike Lang is a great pianist! Edited November 7, 2011 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 The Tom Scott is maybe his best record, with Mike Lang, Chuck Domanico and John Guerin, a solid jazz effort with some rockish elements, but they do not dominate. Nice tunes in 7/4, 5/8 etc. - he was pretty much under the Don Ellis influence when he recorded this. Mike Lang is a great pianist! I agree it's a lot better than most people would expect, but have you hear this one? I might, might, put it above Rural Still Life, in spite of the off-putting concept and cover. Tom Scott - soprano & tenor sax, flute Roger Kellaway - piano, harpsichord, clavinet Chuck Domanico - bass John Guerin - drums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 So the box includes More Blues and the Abstract Truth but does not include Blues and the Abstract Truth?!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 some rarities (how's the Albam? the Gibbs? The Gibbs is fantastic. If they include the non-album track that was originally released on the sampler LP, that might make this worth the price of admission alone. (I missed the track listing) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Okay, okay... so the Scott's not half as bad as I'd expect, then there's the Gibbs, the Rivers, the Albam, the Klemmer... will see. Stitt it's silly that you'll have to buy a 50 (!) CD set to get these! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 Perhaps we'll see single or twofer releases. Is this associated in any way with the German twofer reissue series? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 7, 2011 Report Share Posted November 7, 2011 (edited) Perhaps we'll see single or twofer releases. Is this associated in any way with the German twofer reissue series? Would be cool but I doubt it as most of the albums reissued on twofers so far aren't in the box. There's no news on jazzecho.de, the site where Universal Germany shares some (but never all, alas) info on their jazz releases and reissues. (edited for multi-post... love that new feature! a message about "this is a duplicate post" would make more sense!) Edited November 7, 2011 by king ubu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 The Tom Scott is maybe his best record, with Mike Lang, Chuck Domanico and John Guerin, a solid jazz effort with some rockish elements, but they do not dominate. Nice tunes in 7/4, 5/8 etc. - he was pretty much under the Don Ellis influence when he recorded this. Mike Lang is a great pianist! I agree it's a lot better than most people would expect, but have you hear this one? I might, might, put it above Rural Still Life, in spite of the off-putting concept and cover. Tom Scott - soprano & tenor sax, flute Roger Kellaway - piano, harpsichord, clavinet Chuck Domanico - bass John Guerin - drums Interesting to see Chuck Domanico's name pop up, and on a 70s Impulse! no less. His work with Anthony Ortega is magnificent and I've been wondering what else he did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
colinmce Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 edit: Of course I always could have checked Wikipedia ... looks like he did tons of West Coast session work and even played on the M*A*S*H and Cheers themes. Pity he didn't do more in the free music realm. His solo bass is as captivating as any I've heard from the likes of Kowald and Phillips. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crisp Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Stitt it's silly that you'll have to buy a 50 (!) CD set to get these! In cases like this I buy the box, sell the older duplicates and both make some money back and free up some space. Par for the course for long-time jazz collectors! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I'm not so keen on the Albam but the Gibbs is pretty good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 I have several of these, including the Gibbs, on Japanese pressed cd's. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 Stitt it's silly that you'll have to buy a 50 (!) CD set to get these! In cases like this I buy the box, sell the older duplicates and both make some money back and free up some space. Par for the course for long-time jazz collectors! I've never wanted to get into all that hassle with selling stuff... some discs have scratches, some digipacks don't look like new. Too much work there, I think! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Al Posted November 8, 2011 Report Share Posted November 8, 2011 So the box includes More Blues and the Abstract Truth but does not include Blues and the Abstract Truth?!? Presumably because it was already part of the FIRST IMPULSE box that also included: Ray Charles Genius + Soul = Jazz John Coltrane Africa/Brass Gil Evans Out Of The Cool Kai Winding The Great Kai & J.J. Kai Winding The Incredible Kai Winding Trombones Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 (edited) The Tom Scott is maybe his best record, with Mike Lang, Chuck Domanico and John Guerin, a solid jazz effort with some rockish elements, but they do not dominate. Nice tunes in 7/4, 5/8 etc. - he was pretty much under the Don Ellis influence when he recorded this. Mike Lang is a great pianist! I agree it's a lot better than most people would expect, but have you hear this one? I might, might, put it above Rural Still Life, in spite of the off-putting concept and cover. Tom Scott - soprano & tenor sax, flute Roger Kellaway - piano, harpsichord, clavinet Chuck Domanico - bass John Guerin - drums Yes I have that one - it's good! The "Hair" LP on Flying Dutchman, too - it's just that I like Scott's own tunes on "Rural Still Life" a lot more than the tunes he covered on the other two. Interesting to see Chuck Domanico's name pop up, and on a 70s Impulse! no less. His work with Anthony Ortega is magnificent and I've been wondering what else he did. He was an early member of the Don Eliis Orchestra and Scott's quartet, but then concentrated on studio work in L.A. and played on a thousand records. Excellent bass player! Edited November 9, 2011 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 I am curious why the Kuhn Brothers date was reissued on CD by MPS, since it's an Impulse session. I mean, I know both of them had MPS dates later, but... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidewinder Posted November 9, 2011 Report Share Posted November 9, 2011 I am curious why the Kuhn Brothers date was reissued on CD by MPS, since it's an Impulse session. I mean, I know both of them had MPS dates later, but... Maybe Thiele did a deal with SABA to record the Kuhns but with SABA ultimately holding the rights? (just checked the LP and there doesn't seem to be anything in there to confirm any arrangement). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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