JSngry Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 ...because Bill Barron was a no-bullshit kind of guy. Quoth Da' Bastids: http://www.dustygroove.com/item.php?id=mnwxp9t75c&ref=browse.php&refQ=kwfilter%3Dbill%2Bbarron%26amp%3Bincl_oos%3D1%26amp%3Bincl_cs%3D1 Two decades' worth of music from the mighty Bill Barron – all of it great, no matter what the vintage, and recorded by Swedish Radio in a variety of different formats! Some sides are straight, others are quite experimental – and Barron's given plenty of freedom to try out new ideas here, possibly even more than on some of his studio sets from the time. Settings include a large group from 1966, a 1966 quartet with Jan Wallgren on piano and Rupert Clemendore on drums, and quartets with Lars Sjosten on piano, from the years 1966, 1979, and 1984 – including one date that also features Barron on melodica! The recording quality is great throughout, and the 75 minute package is a real testament to Bill's continuously creative energy over the years – far past the initial moments of brilliance shown by some of his 60s contemporaries. Titles include "Variations In Blue", "In & Out", "Celestial Body", "A Swedish American Venture", "Through The Looking Glass", "Flip Flop", "Time Motion Space", and "Jazz Caper". Giving it a first listen now, and if you dig Bill Barron, you will definitely want this most worthwhile issue. DG is currently out of stock, so either look elsewhere or put it on your Want List there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyles Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 I picked this up when it was first issued a few years ago. Excellent music! What is also interesting is to hear alternate versions of a couple of compositions that appeared on other recordings. Now if we can just get a CD reissue of the 1972 Savoy recording, Motivation, I would be a happy man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted January 20, 2012 Author Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Now if we can just get a CD reissue of the 1972 Savoy recording, Motivation, I would be a happy man. You and me both...but is the world ready for that one yet? Will it ever be ready? I'm skeptical... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Utevsky Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 Keep on pushin', JSngry! I've only heard a little bit of Barron but I'd love to hear more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relyles Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 (edited) Now that we mention it, I do not think either of two recordings on Muse, Jazz Caper or Varations in Blue, have ever seen a reissue in the ditigal age. Edited January 20, 2012 by relyles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 there's a Booker Ervin/Bill Barron date on Savoy, I think, that's quite nice. Bill was supposed to record with me on the New Tango CD but got sick; he was a great player, nice man. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValerieB Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 another bright light that left us way too soon. he used to be my neighbor in the East Village in the '60s. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clunky Posted January 20, 2012 Report Share Posted January 20, 2012 a fine set for sure , only Bill Barron I've been disappointed in is Live at Cobi's 2 - sound is really appallingly harsh. Mars an otherwise interesting CD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Attn: Mosaic - Bill Barron would make a fine box, either Select or big box. How about a big box collecting Barron and Curson recordings alone and together? I'll buy it, so only 4999 others to go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JETman Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 Attn: Mosaic - Bill Barron would make a fine box, either Select or big box. How about a big box collecting Barron and Curson recordings alone and together? I'll buy it, so only 4999 others to go. Send Cuscuna an email; he'll respond. I'm afraid one of the bigger issues is not how important the artist is, but how to organize and handle the legal manipulations of cross-label material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted January 23, 2012 Report Share Posted January 23, 2012 I saw Barron in 1964 in Copenhagen, IIRC with Kenny on piano. Made an impression on me then though I can't really claim to remember it well. Didn't he play with Ted Curson a lot in the mid-sixties? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Attn: Mosaic - Bill Barron would make a fine box, either Select or big box. How about a big box collecting Barron and Curson recordings alone and together? I'll buy it, so only 4999 others to go. make that 4998 - I'd jump at a Bill Barron box (Select or a "Big" one) love his sound Attn: Mosaic - Bill Barron would make a fine box, either Select or big box. How about a big box collecting Barron and Curson recordings alone and together? I'll buy it, so only 4999 others to go. Send Cuscuna an email; he'll respond. I'm afraid one of the bigger issues is not how important the artist is, but how to organize and handle the legal manipulations of cross-label material. I didn't have much luck with a Joe Harriot Box suggestion (last year) - never got a reply back from Michael Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 Attn: Mosaic - Bill Barron would make a fine box, either Select or big box. How about a big box collecting Barron and Curson recordings alone and together? I'll buy it, so only 4999 others to go. That is a GREAT idea. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 add the Booker Ervin and you've got my vote. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 add the Booker Ervin and you've got my vote. Yep. 3 down, 4997 to go. I'll email MC and let him know of the onslaught of pre-orders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 How much Barron never made it to CD? Or Curson for that matter? What needs doing? I know some of it was maybe only around in Japanese issues... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Christensen Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 I saw Barron in 1964 in Copenhagen, IIRC with Kenny on piano. Made an impression on me then though I can't really claim to remember it well. Didn't he play with Ted Curson a lot in the mid-sixties? The group in Copenhagen was Ted Curson, Bill Barron, Herb Bushler (bass), Dick Berk (drums), no piano so Kenny Barron was not with group, who was playing a three week gig at Jazzhus Montmartre. Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted January 26, 2012 Report Share Posted January 26, 2012 I saw Barron in 1964 in Copenhagen, IIRC with Kenny on piano. Made an impression on me then though I can't really claim to remember it well. Didn't he play with Ted Curson a lot in the mid-sixties? The group in Copenhagen was Ted Curson, Bill Barron, Herb Bushler (bass), Dick Berk (drums), no piano so Kenny Barron was not with group, who was playing a three week gig at Jazzhus Montmartre. Vic I'm sure you're right but I don't remember Curson who I'd seen a lot in Montreal around then. This was the summer of 1964. (I don't remember a lot things from 1964.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 How much Barron never made it to CD? Or Curson for that matter? What needs doing? I know some of it was maybe only around in Japanese issues... It seems that most Bill Barron never made it to CD, at least in the West. As a leader, there are Hot Line (with Booker Ervin), Motivation, Variations in Blue, West Side Story Bossa Nova, the Brasileros Bossa Nova. Even Modern Windows was only released on CD in highly abridged form (The Modern Windows Suite). I have never heard Snake Johnson with Curson, and don't recall that one being on CD either Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted January 27, 2012 Report Share Posted January 27, 2012 How much Barron never made it to CD? Or Curson for that matter? What needs doing? I know some of it was maybe only around in Japanese issues... It seems that most Bill Barron never made it to CD, at least in the West. As a leader, there are Hot Line (with Booker Ervin), Motivation, Variations in Blue, West Side Story Bossa Nova, the Brasileros Bossa Nova. Even Modern Windows was only released on CD in highly abridged form (The Modern Windows Suite). I have never heard Snake Johnson with Curson, and don't recall that one being on CD either Thanks John. West Side Story *is* on CD and still in print. As you say, there is only 1.5 Savoys on Western CD though three came out from Japan (nice!). I suppose the problem is that this missing stuff cuts across so many labels, and some of the Savoy and Muse is still in print.By the way, why is this thread in New Releases????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 I sent Jonathan Horwich a listening copy of Motivation about a year ago, and he said he might consider reissuing it. If more of us got behind it, who knows ... The U.S. packaging of Modern Windows (Suite) is frustrating for sure. There was enough room, of course, to reissue both Modern Windows and The Tenor Stylings of on one compact disc, but as Orrin Keepnews was the reissue producer ... well, we know how that ends up. Then, as if to say "ha ha!" like that kid on the Simpsons, Keepnews included a bonus track ("Desolation") that can't be found on any Japanese edition. I downloaded it from Amazon so that I didn't have to purchase the U.S. edition. I haven't heard the release that's the reason for this thread. Barron is a favorite of mine, however. He spent a brief period with Mingus (1961-62?) that went unrecorded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mracz Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Another fan here. Let's not forget his work with Cecil, both Love for Sale and the amazing 1965 Newport set on Wolfgang's Vault with BB and Jimmy Lyons. The BB/Curson material is all worthwhile, and Hot Line is another favourite. Another vote for a CD reissue of Motivation: don't know that one at all! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted June 10, 2018 Report Share Posted June 10, 2018 Been listening to this one quite a bit lately. Even though the album spans a couple decades, it holds together very well. Barron definitely has a distinctive, interesting tone and the tunes are also his. Very much of a keeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted February 22, 2023 Report Share Posted February 22, 2023 Listening to A Swedish-American Venture right now. This was a labor of love on Anna Barron's part, and the music is amazing. Sonics too. Though the disc spans from 1966 to 1984, there's a consistency to the programming. You also get 28 seconds of a Bill Barron interview—it's actually more of an introduction to his composition "A Swedish-American Venture," which is Track 3. It would've made Mingus smile. I'd say this package is essential for Bill Barron fans. Hard to believe that it's been on the market for over 20 years now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted February 23, 2023 Report Share Posted February 23, 2023 1 hour ago, Late said: Listening to A Swedish-American Venture right now. This was a labor of love on Anna Barron's part, and the music is amazing. Sonics too. Though the disc spans from 1966 to 1984, there's a consistency to the programming. I'd say this package is essential for Bill Barron fans. Yes, I agree with every statement above. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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