Brad Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Ok, it's now official. The Mets have assumed their rightful place in the land of suckage! These last 2 games have shown, I guess, how important Wright is to their success. He's been out with a fractured pinky. They took a break on Saturday and Sunday and emerged from that land! Check out this picture. You may recognize the guy third from the left along with the guy in the combat fatigues. Guess this is OK. Hypocrisy! Ain't it great And you wonder why I refuse to concern myself with the American League franchise located in Boston, MA. Can't blame you in a way. Makes for merriment though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 I just think the color barrier would have been broken by the 50s anyway. I don't know this part of the history as well as I'd like, but was Larry Doby going to roll out with the Indians no matter what happened with Robinson, or was there a "wait and see" thing going on there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 16, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 I just think the color barrier would have been broken by the 50s anyway. I don't know this part of the history as well as I'd like, but was Larry Doby going to roll out with the Indians no matter what happened with Robinson, or was there a "wait and see" thing going on there? No, it was going through regardless. Bill Veck was the owner of the Indians at the time, and he was committed to breaking the color barrier. In some ways, I wished it was him, it would have made a great story, and Doby was no slouch either as a player or person. With Branch, there is more than a touch of the charlatan involved, but that touch is what probably made him so great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 16, 2012 Report Share Posted April 16, 2012 Bill Veeck, the man who presented both Larry Doby and Eddie Gaedel... Only in America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Bill Veeck, the man who presented both Larry Doby and Eddie Gaedel... Only in America? Larry Doby and Eddie Gaedel AND SATCHEL PAIGE. Veeck is one of my baseball heroes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Yeah, shit I forgot about Satchel Paige. One should never forget about Satchel Paige. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 17, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 One of my favorite Veeck promotions: They just don't make them like Veeck anymore.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Bill Veeck couldn't afford to be Bill Veeck today. Even the St. Louis Browns would probably go for a quarter billion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Well the bad news for the Giants - Lincecum lost again. The good news is he was able to lower his ERA to 10.54!! (Actually, besides the 1st inning where he gave up 4 runs he looked pretty good last night. Also, Angel Pagan did him no favors) Phillies back to .500 ball. Sigh... this is gonna be a long season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) Veeck's Disco night in Chicago in 1979 Edited April 17, 2012 by Soulstation1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 I just think the color barrier would have been broken by the 50s anyway. I don't know this part of the history as well as I'd like, but was Larry Doby going to roll out with the Indians no matter what happened with Robinson, or was there a "wait and see" thing going on there? No, it was going through regardless. Bill Veck was the owner of the Indians at the time, and he was committed to breaking the color barrier. In some ways, I wished it was him, it would have made a great story, and Doby was no slouch either as a player or person. With Branch, there is more than a touch of the charlatan involved, but that touch is what probably made him so great. The Giants were ready to bring up a Black player, too. Dodgers just beat them to it is all. Well the bad news for the Giants - Lincecum lost again. The good news is he was able to lower his ERA to 10.54!! (Actually, besides the 1st inning where he gave up 4 runs he looked pretty good last night. Also, Angel Pagan did him no favors) Phillies back to .500 ball. Sigh... this is gonna be a long season. The Giants only offered him a two year deal whle giving the Mad Bum and Cain multi-year deals, too. Maybe they saw something that wasn't quite right. I dunno. I just hope Lincecum can get his groove on...and soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Pomea Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 After their current four game series with Washington is over, I sort of wish the Astros would stun MLB and go on a rampage! If they made it to the post-season or even won it all it would serve Selig right for moving them to the AL West next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 (edited) After their current four game series with Washington is over, I sort of wish the Astros would stun MLB and go on a rampage! If they made it to the post-season or even won it all it would serve Selig right for moving them to the AL West next season. Wait....now hold it. Houston is going to the AL next year? Why? Edited April 17, 2012 by GoodSpeak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Pomea Posted April 17, 2012 Report Share Posted April 17, 2012 Houston will be in the AL West beginning next season in order to even out the divisions. Currently there are only LA of Anaheim, Oakland, Seattle, and Texas. It's the only division like it. It will be fairer to the other divisions if there is more competition for the top spot. I felt that Milwaukee should have been the one reassigned to the AL since they started there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I understand the logic of wanting 5 teams in the AL West, but I don't like Houston being the team to move. The sale of the Astros suddenly gave MLB the right to force the them to be the team that had to move. I've enjoyed the NL rivalries (such as they are) that the Astros have had. It doesn't seem right for them to suddenly be an AL team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I'm looking forward to at least one day trip to Minute Maid with the family. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Houston will be in the AL West beginning next season in order to even out the divisions. Currently there are only LA of Anaheim, Oakland, Seattle, and Texas. It's the only division like it. It will be fairer to the other divisions if there is more competition for the top spot. I felt that Milwaukee should have been the one reassigned to the AL since they started there. That's what I was thinking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted April 18, 2012 Author Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Houston will be in the AL West beginning next season in order to even out the divisions. Currently there are only LA of Anaheim, Oakland, Seattle, and Texas. It's the only division like it. It will be fairer to the other divisions if there is more competition for the top spot. I felt that Milwaukee should have been the one reassigned to the AL since they started there. That's what I was thinking. The Brewers moving was never going to happen, Bud Selig fought tooth-and-nail to get them into the NL. Guess when you're the Commissioner, you put this protective aura around the team that you own, so it gets to stay in the NL, it's key player doesn't get suspended (what a surprise, the only case ever overturned ), etc. Edit: ever to never to ever Edited April 18, 2012 by Matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) Houston will be in the AL West beginning next season in order to even out the divisions. Currently there are only LA of Anaheim, Oakland, Seattle, and Texas. It's the only division like it. It will be fairer to the other divisions if there is more competition for the top spot. I felt that Milwaukee should have been the one reassigned to the AL since they started there. That's what I was thinking. The Brewers moving was never going to happen, Bud Selig fought tooth-and-nail to get them into the NL. Guess when you're the Commissioner, you put this protective aura around the team that you own, so it gets to stay in the NL, it's key player doesn't get suspended (what a surprise, the only case ever overturned ), etc. Edit: ever to never to ever Figures. We need another Fay Vincent or Bart Giamatti to run MLB. And what's all this business about expanding the playoff teams to five? Pretty soon, Selig will water the playoffs down to the meaninglessness of the NBA or NHL where basically everybody gets in. And I'm still steamed about that tie Allstar game, too. He's destroying the game, IMHO. Edited April 18, 2012 by GoodSpeak Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie87 Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 (edited) I'm looking forward to at least one day trip to Minute Maid with the family. Yeah, but you could have that under the current scenario - the Rangers & Astros play each other every year as it is. Edited April 18, 2012 by Aggie87 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Yeah, but it will mean more when it's a division series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chalupa Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Yeah, but it will mean more when it's a division series. But not as much as an all Texas World Series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I'm only 56...it's mathematically possible that I could live to see it, although travel might be problematic by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tim McG Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 I'm only 56...it's mathematically possible that I could live to see it, although travel might be problematic by then. I'm 57 and I used to say the same thing about the Giants winning a WS....it could happen, Jim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulstation1 Posted April 18, 2012 Report Share Posted April 18, 2012 Any chance I will see the Indians win the WS or is the best I'll do is the 1985 Royals? I will be 45 this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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