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#31 AllenLowe

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:05 PM

Herbie Hancock

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:40 PM

Troll!


Sorry, I mistyped Debussy. Very familiar with Ravel. Was familiar with Debussy as well, but his work has really clicked with me lately.


Run, don't walk to your local online retailer and order this DVD:

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In the past year, I have completely fallen in love with Harry Nilsson.




I don't love his music, but have you seen the wonderful documentary about him?

I was amazed to learn that his two biggest hits were not his own songs: Everybody's Talkin' (Fred Neil), Without You (Badfinger).

I also really enjoy listening to an album called Piano Music of Philip Glass by Aleck Karis.


Probably better than this guy's versions:

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Yes! Great documentary. We ought to start a series of musician trading cards.

I just asked my daughter what sport she thought he played. She answered vibraphone. Musician trading cards it is.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:53 PM

Musician trading cards it is.


Wayman Tisdale advises to get your licensing ducks in a row first!

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:59 PM

Did he actually try this? That's funny.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:53 PM

Nah, he's just already been on a lot of NBA trading cards.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:07 PM

You're forgetting about Bernie Williams.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 09:50 PM

The subject of this thread and mention of Teddy Pendergrass reminded me that I have only recently really started listening to Beres Hammond. He can evoke Pendergrass as well as anyone, and Marvin Gaye as well, but also has his own Unique thing going - a great classic R&B/soul singer packaged as a reggae artist.

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:09 PM

Sam Amidon is an artist i find very interesting. and definitely "non-jazz." when i was doing review writing his cds were sent to me but i didn't have time to write them up. too bad 'cuz they probably woulda yielded some decent ideas. i love a lot of his music and think his "concept" is often surprising, creative, original and subtly beautiful. the songs below are good examples of ones i feel this way about:





and yeah, i'm aware that some on this bard may find the versions of those tunes distasteful. i don't care. i think they're genius.

Edited by thedwork, 02 May 2012 - 10:09 PM.


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Posted 02 May 2012 - 10:15 PM

and something kinda different from those two above (i guess you can't have more than 2 media files in one post?):



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Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:04 PM

You're forgetting about Bernie Williams.


Bernie made some legit sides? I was unaware!

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:41 PM

In the past year, I have completely fallen in love with Harry Nilsson.


I'm guessing you've heard Nilsson's "The Point"? If not, I think it's a great record. I grew up listening to the LP (along with Bill Cosby's "To Russell My Brother Whom I Slept With"). The animated film that accompanies it is also fine — narrated by Ringo Starr (after Dustin Hoffman recorded/narrated the whole thing, but whose contribution wasn't used).

Some non-jazz artists I've been paying attention to, and really loving:

• Patsy Cline
• Ernest Tubb
• Otto Klemperer (conducting Mahler; great new French EMI set available)
• Water Gieseking (playing Mendelssohn and Grieg, but not the awful U.S. EMI References set)
• Long John Hunter
• Little Bob & The Lollipops
• Markos Vamvakaris (the 1932-37 JSP set)

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Posted 02 May 2012 - 11:45 PM


You're forgetting about Bernie Williams.


Bernie made some legit sides? I was unaware!


http://allmusic.com/artist/bernie-williams-p562196/biography

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 12:07 AM



You're forgetting about Bernie Williams.


Bernie made some legit sides? I was unaware!


http://allmusic.com/...62196/biography


I'll keep an eye open for some inexpensive copies. Looks like it could be some fun. Thanks for the tip!

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:20 AM

Jamie Cullum


i would definitely say that he is an "acquired taste". perhaps i could tolerate him better if i just heard him and didn't see him jumping and flipping around the stage. ugh.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:08 AM

Ernest Hogan. Important composer and showman.


Very complicated person I expect (just going by Abbott/Seroff). The fact he was so successfully litigious over his civil rights came as a surprise to me. The imagery around him is such that I am inclined to hide it from view if I'm reading about him at work.. can you recommend any other books?

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:31 AM


In the past year, I have completely fallen in love with Harry Nilsson.


I'm guessing you've heard Nilsson's "The Point"? If not, I think it's a great record. I grew up listening to the LP (along with Bill Cosby's "To Russell My Brother Whom I Slept With"). The animated film that accompanies it is also fine — narrated by Ringo Starr (after Dustin Hoffman recorded/narrated the whole thing, but whose contribution wasn't used).

Some non-jazz artists I've been paying attention to, and really loving:

• Patsy Cline
• Ernest Tubb
• Otto Klemperer (conducting Mahler; great new French EMI set available)
• Water Gieseking (playing Mendelssohn and Grieg, but not the awful U.S. EMI References set)
• Long John Hunter
• Little Bob & The Lollipops
• Markos Vamvakaris (the 1932-37 JSP set)


Yes! I love The Point. "Me And My Arrow" especially. I love that you grew up with this! Harry narrates the record. I've only seem clips of the film.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:21 AM

on Ernest Hogan, there is very little. Most interesting is his dance music, which compares to the way Jelly Roll Morton describes and plays Tiger Rag as an early quadrille and as a piece of jazz pre-history; also, his major hit (All Coons Look Alike to Me) has the classic chord progression which is related to Sister Kate/Muskrat Ramble, and which is really rhe quintessesntial early ragtime, pre-blues scheme. There is one other book with excellent discussion of him - Tom Fletcher - 100 years of the Negro in Show Business. Very difficult to find.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:01 PM

I've only seem clips of the film.


The film is definitely worth Netflix-ing, etc. Ringo's narration is (yes) charming. The (sometimes improvised?) script, from an animated feature point of view, also makes excellent use of interruption during dialogue — something you almost never hear in animated features. Characters commonly don't finish their sentences because others are persistently butting in. It's not an emphasis of the film, but it's there (and not in the soundtrack). Also, you get to quote The Count (a la Saturday Night Live quotes) over and over after you've watched it:

The Count: "I groomed you. Oooh how I groomed you! I cultivated you like a rare flower!"

^_^

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:38 PM

It's not on Netflix though!

I'd love to see the BBC specials too...

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:44 PM

Grace Askew.

FWIW. I like this gal a lot.



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Posted 03 May 2012 - 01:54 PM

• Patsy Cline


My favorite pre-Owen Bradley recording of hers is Three Cigarettes in an Ashtray. Great lyric, very "literary" and "cinematic" in its devices.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 02:57 PM

Yes Mr. Keith, that's a great reissue of the first two "lps". . . . I have the Elvis "Fifties" RCA box set, but this reissue sounds so much better. I've also been listening to the Sun material. I like some of the recordings of the 'sixties and 'seventies, but the 'fifties Elvis is a period I really enjoy.


I remember buying the first two Elvis Lps when they were new.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 03:02 PM

Musician trading cards it is.


Wayman Tisdale advises to get your licensing ducks in a row first!


Robert Crumb did a series of cards about Blues Musicians and also one about early Jazzmen (Pops, Bix, Jelly Roll and many who are more obscure.)

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 03:05 PM

I'm not sure that "finally catching on to" describes it in every case, but a short list of some artists I've either discovered or more closely focused on in the last couple of years:

Chet Atkins
LIttle Milton
Robert Ward
Tad Robinson

...and it's only one album, but this is one of my favorite discoveries in many years, a Canadian band from the early 90's:

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Stumbled onto this after a brief exploration one day into (what ever happened to the members of) The Cowsills.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 03:07 PM


I've only seem clips of the film.


The film is definitely worth Netflix-ing, etc. Ringo's narration is (yes) charming. The (sometimes improvised?) script, from an animated feature point of view, also makes excellent use of interruption during dialogue — something you almost never hear in animated features. Characters commonly don't finish their sentences because others are persistently butting in. It's not an emphasis of the film, but it's there (and not in the soundtrack). Also, you get to quote The Count (a la Saturday Night Live quotes) over and over after you've watched it:

The Count: "I groomed you. Oooh how I groomed you! I cultivated you like a rare flower!"

^_^


Are you discussing the Nillson documentary or the animated film The Point? IIRC when The Point was first broadcast the narrator was Dustin Hoffman but they never contracted for a home video release with him so when it was released as such they replaced his voice with Ringo's. (I've never seen either version so I'm really talking through my hat here?)

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 05:52 PM

Matisse and the Spinners.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 06:57 PM



I've only seem clips of the film.


The film is definitely worth Netflix-ing, etc. Ringo's narration is (yes) charming. The (sometimes improvised?) script, from an animated feature point of view, also makes excellent use of interruption during dialogue — something you almost never hear in animated features. Characters commonly don't finish their sentences because others are persistently butting in. It's not an emphasis of the film, but it's there (and not in the soundtrack). Also, you get to quote The Count (a la Saturday Night Live quotes) over and over after you've watched it:

The Count: "I groomed you. Oooh how I groomed you! I cultivated you like a rare flower!"

^_^


Are you discussing the Nillson documentary or the animated film The Point? IIRC when The Point was first broadcast the narrator was Dustin Hoffman but they never contracted for a home video release with him so when it was released as such they replaced his voice with Ringo's. (I've never seen either version so I'm really talking through my hat here?)


The animated film... There are snips across the Internet, as well as the BBC specials, but I'd love to own them on DVD, blu-ray, what have you.

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:06 PM




I've only seem clips of the film.


The film is definitely worth Netflix-ing, etc. Ringo's narration is (yes) charming. The (sometimes improvised?) script, from an animated feature point of view, also makes excellent use of interruption during dialogue — something you almost never hear in animated features. Characters commonly don't finish their sentences because others are persistently butting in. It's not an emphasis of the film, but it's there (and not in the soundtrack). Also, you get to quote The Count (a la Saturday Night Live quotes) over and over after you've watched it:

The Count: "I groomed you. Oooh how I groomed you! I cultivated you like a rare flower!"

^_^


Are you discussing the Nillson documentary or the animated film The Point? IIRC when The Point was first broadcast the narrator was Dustin Hoffman but they never contracted for a home video release with him so when it was released as such they replaced his voice with Ringo's. (I've never seen either version so I'm really talking through my hat here?)


The animated film... There are snips across the Internet, as well as the BBC specials, but I'd love to own them on DVD, blu-ray, what have you.


Seems to be availabe from Amazon US: http://www.amazon.co...words=the point

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 08:20 PM

Nice! Thanks!

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Posted 03 May 2012 - 10:19 PM

Stumbled onto this after a brief exploration one day into (what ever happened to the members of) The Cowsills.

Seems to me I read that one of the Cowsills is part of the band that's backing the Beach Boys on their 50th anniversary tour.



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