mikeweil Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Glad Rag Doll - You can here a track on Verve's soundcloud - produced by T Bone Burnett, it will feature Marc Ribot, Bryan Sutton, Colin Linden, bassist Dennis Crouch, drummer Jay Bellerose, and keyboarder Keefus Green. After hearing the sample, I'm not quite convinced that she will convince me with that style ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 It's ok. She never really convinced me with her other styles either.BTW -only one cut on that soundcloud site appears to be from Krall. The others are from Brian Culbertson, whoever that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Her style in lingerie is pretty nice. Her style in lingerie is pretty nice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 Her style in lingerie is pretty nice. Her style in lingerie is pretty nice. Stereophonic? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedwork Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 (edited) Glad Rag Doll - You can here a track on Verve's soundcloud - produced by T Bone Burnett, it will feature Marc Ribot, Bryan Sutton, Colin Linden, bassist Dennis Crouch, drummer Jay Bellerose, and keyboarder Keefus Green. After hearing the sample, I'm not quite convinced that she will convince me with that style ... nothing to write home about. always good to hear Ribot though and partly due to that, this sounds like it coulda been a T. Waits backing track w/ his vocal taken out and Krall taking her turn. Waits karaoke. the results being similar to Krall's earlier cover of the Waits classic "Heart Of Saturday Night." mainly ok but forgettable. by the way, i'm no Krall hater. i think she's a good singer and in the right context an excellent pianist. my favorite recording of hers is still her debut Steppin' Out. a very good record... Edited July 8, 2012 by thedwork Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I have a couple of her CD's and the Paris DVD. I think she's fine, but I can take her or leave her. What I don't understand is why she allows herself to be sold as a sex symbol first and and a musician second. I don't know squat about marketing, but that strikes me strongly as putting the cart ahead of the horse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedwork Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 I have a couple of her CD's and the Paris DVD. I think she's fine, but I can take her or leave her. What I don't understand is why she allows herself to be sold as a sex symbol first and and a musician second. I don't know squat about marketing, but that strikes me strongly as putting the cart ahead of the horse. i can see your point. but from where i sit, it's easy to understand how someone could allow themselves to be marketed in a manipulative way if they find out it can generate a lot of money for themselves. not saying it's right, just understandable. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted July 8, 2012 Report Share Posted July 8, 2012 What I don't understand is why she allows herself to be sold as a sex symbol first and and a musician second. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 She doesn't look real happy to me in that lingerie, though I suppose she could have been told to took "pensive." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (edited) That's been the main problem with her... I saw her live several times in the late 90's before she became popular. She was shy, played a LOT more piano and was a MUCH better musician. It's these friggin' marketing people that messed her up IMHO. I do think the available cut from this upcoming CD seems promising. She got WAY too interested in being popular. I thought her marriage to Elvis Costello might move her to regain some artistic sensibilities. I have a couple of her CD's and the Paris DVD. I think she's fine, but I can take her or leave her. What I don't understand is why she allows herself to be sold as a sex symbol first and and a musician second. I don't know squat about marketing, but that strikes me strongly as putting the cart ahead of the horse. Edited July 9, 2012 by tranemonk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alocispepraluger102 Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 to me, everything about her wreaks of over production. give her a nice piano, trio, or quartet and let her do her thing. the beloved late shirley horn, (and many other vocalists) was falling into those contrivance and overproduction traps late in her career. why would shirley horn need a piano player and 85 violins? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 She's trying to show she still has sex appeal at 47 after having a kid. A laudable effort; that's show biz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigP Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I don't think that photo is even necessary for her target market. Have her look attractive? Yes. Dress her up like Pretty Baby? No. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tranemonk Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 The really sad part is she actually does have talent... It really has been a disaster to watch her career unfold when she was very different at the beginning. Despite the stupid cd cover, I'm really hoping this new record is artistically better than the strings crap she's been putting out over the last few years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 9, 2012 Author Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Problem is, how do you make a decent living by just playing piano and singing with bass and drums behind you? Straight jazz perhaps what she does best, but in our superficial times ... I, too, still like Steppin' Out a lot. The German Jazz Echo site that Universal uses as a marketing tool actually refers this new production to Tom Waits and the like. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Her style in lingerie is pretty nice. Her style in lingerie is pretty nice. Stereophonic? More like electronically reprocessed to simulate stereo (I only typed it once. So it had to be echoed off of itself to create the effect) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 (furthermore, Abbey couldn't sing too well... ducks and runs for cover) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Can't wait to hear Ella's version of "Driva Man" for an A-B comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A100East Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I doubt she is worried about proving how good she is. Perhaps she is doing exactly what she wants. Maybe this is music is moving her at this time in her life. Just because well versed jazz listeners and musicians prefer to hear her in a specific context does not mean that it would inspire her. Even if it is a commercial effort, who could blame her for considering how she might make an effort to help insure the future of her family? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 the beloved late shirley horn, (and many other vocalists) was falling into those contrivance and overproduction traps late in her career. why would shirley horn need a piano player and 85 violins? I like her albums with Johnny Mandel. (furthermore, Abbey couldn't sing too well... ducks and runs for cover) Or you can just stay behind those bars. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 the beloved late shirley horn, (and many other vocalists) was falling into those contrivance and overproduction traps late in her career. why would shirley horn need a piano player and 85 violins? I like her albums with Johnny Mandel. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A100East Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 the beloved late shirley horn, (and many other vocalists) was falling into those contrivance and overproduction traps late in her career. why would shirley horn need a piano player and 85 violins? I like her albums with Johnny Mandel. +1 +2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thedwork Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 I doubt she is worried about proving how good she is. Perhaps she is doing exactly what she wants. Maybe this is music is moving her at this time in her life. Just because well versed jazz listeners and musicians prefer to hear her in a specific context does not mean that it would inspire her. Even if it is a commercial effort, who could blame her for considering how she might make an effort to help insure the future of her family? :tup even though i'm one of the folks who "prefer to hear her in a specific context," i totally agree w/ your post. way to go... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Tapscott Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Even if it is a commercial effort, who could blame her for considering how she might make an effort to help insure the future of her family? I would have thought that was nicely taken care of when she married Elvis Costello. Nothing against Diana K., mind you. I enjoy several of her recordings and can leave the rest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave James Posted July 9, 2012 Report Share Posted July 9, 2012 Even if it is a commercial effort, who could blame her for considering how she might make an effort to help insure the future of her family? Huh? If, at this point in her career, insuring the future of her family is an issue, she should be finding a good lawyer and suing her management. We're talking about someone who has been able to successfully bridge the chasm between jazz and popular music, who has released nearly a dozen well selling CD's and who plays to sold out houses where ever she goes. I hardly think money is an issue or a driving force behind her decision making. I'll double down on that assertion by virtue of the fact that she's married to Elvis Costello. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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