J.A.W. Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 any idea on a US distributor? Importing them directly from CDJapan will undoubtedly be cheaper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Don't know the live one at all. The other one is ok enough, just not anything "special" compared to Who Is.... which kind of hits a zone. The live one's pretty good (though very short), just a trio behind her. And "Woman of the Ghetto" from it was famously sampled for that acid jazz hit by St. Germain. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=IDMgBxHcM5M Was it the BN version that was sampled or the one on Chess (produced by Charles Stepney & containing some pre-EWF use of the kalimba by him)? I honestly don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 Don't know the live one at all. The other one is ok enough, just not anything "special" compared to Who Is.... which kind of hits a zone. The live one's pretty good (though very short), just a trio behind her. And "Woman of the Ghetto" from it was famously sampled for that acid jazz hit by St. Germain. http://www.youtube.c...h?v=IDMgBxHcM5M Was it the BN version that was sampled or the one on Chess (produced by Charles Stepney & containing some pre-EWF use of the kalimba by him)? I honestly don't know. Marlena Shaw Live at Montreux From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Marlena Shaw Live at Montreux (also released as Marlena Shaw Live: Cookin' with Blue Note at Montreux) is a live album by American vocalist Marlena Shaw recorded at the Montreux Jazz Festival in 1973 and released on the Blue Note label.[1] Shaw's introduction to the track "Woman of the Ghetto" was sampled for St. Germain's album Tourist (2000). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 And so it is! The original is pretty strong on its own terms: I don't see Stepney's name on that label. Maybe I was wrong about his involvement? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cliffpeterson Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) you can order them from cdjapan.com. if you buy a few, the delivered price will be less than you can get them from other sources Edited October 1, 2012 by cliffpeterson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J.A.W. Posted October 1, 2012 Report Share Posted October 1, 2012 (edited) you can order them from cdjapan.com. if you buy a few, the delivered price will be less than you can get them from other sources See my post #26. You gave the wrong address; the correct address is www.cdjapan.co.jp - here's the link again: CDJapan. Edited October 1, 2012 by J.A.W. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted October 2, 2012 Report Share Posted October 2, 2012 I don't see Stepney's name on that label. Maybe I was wrong about his involvement? He and Richard Evans are both given production credits on the 'Mixed Bag' album, so you're probably right regardless of the labeling on the single. I also agree with you about the original being strong. Two different musical experiences, both of value. She's interesting - another one of those singers who didn't fit categorization well and likely suffered commercially for it (primo examples are the great Terry Callier, Gil Scott-Heron, but there were others). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
webbcity Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 Hutcherson's Cirrus is a winner...and that one has never been on CD, AFAIK. Cirrus is on the Hutcherson Mosaic Select. Ah yes, you are correct! Forgot about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robertoart Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I don't see Stepney's name on that label. Maybe I was wrong about his involvement? He and Richard Evans are both given production credits on the 'Mixed Bag' album, so you're probably right regardless of the labeling on the single. I also agree with you about the original being strong. Two different musical experiences, both of value. She's interesting - another one of those singers who didn't fit categorization well and likely suffered commercially for it (primo examples are the great Terry Callier, Gil Scott-Heron, but there were others). Terry Callier. There's a name I don't hear enough of anymore. I was lucky enough to witness an intimate club gig in Australia in 2004 (I think). Callier with just Bass player and Percussionist. Didn't know much about him at all, went with no expectations. Witnessed one of the most memorable gigs I've ever seen. Not what I'd call a big crowd, but unforgettable night. Pure vocal music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 this is an important series for cd format. 1st off none of these titles were issued on cd during the early days of cd, or really any era- most of these were never on cd. 2nd-ly the fusion-y nature of these make these titles a perfect fit for the cd-fromat. HOWEVER.....what sources will be used, original mastertapes perhaps? this is the big sticker point with me. if these were really legit transfers, man id be all over it. but will i pay big bucks for a digital copy of a freakin DAT or a copy of the master? no way. i have gene harris- in a special way, a tocj cd from some years ago....sound=AMAZING. ive passed on sealed copies of the vinyl im so happy with it on CD. i hope this current series sounds similar. does amazon carry these titles ever, or do you have to use cdjapan? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I agree with you chewy that in a sense it's important these titles are on CD, particularly the Hutcherson and Elvin Jones make a return to circulation, but titles like Blue Note Live at The Roxy are musically unsatisfying for the most part, but good for completion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) And some of the greatest lyrics ever should not be lost to history: Every generation Of this life Reflects a movie scene Often more than twice (R. Laws) Oh that one's not on the list. Well, you get the idea. Soft spot for Fever here.... Edited October 3, 2012 by David Ayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 (edited) any idea on a US distributor? Importing them directly from CDJapan will undoubtedly be cheaper. To follow up on Hans' link: Here's the pages with the cds A number of the cds are high on my want list Edited October 3, 2012 by Matthew Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 This is the New Blue Note that the Newer Blue Note didn't want you to think of as Blue Note. And now, it's baaaaaaacccckkkkkk!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 This is the New Blue Note that the Newer Blue Note didn't want you to think of as Blue Note. And now, it's baaaaaaacccckkkkkk!!!!! The Mizell brothers are visionary heroes now, who would've thunk it????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I've still not drank the Mizell Kool-Aid as originally packaged...but it does make great sampling fodder, I've heard any number of examples of this, so....I don't know what to make of that, other than maybe a whole box of prunes is too much to eat at a single sitting, but if you eat one or two at the right time, good things can be made to happen. Maybe the Mizell BN output is a giant box of prunes, and it's up to us the consumer to make proper use of it. Or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I've still not drank the Mizell Kool-Aid as originally packaged...but it does make great sampling fodder, I've heard any number of examples of this, so....I don't know what to make of that, other than maybe a whole box of prunes is too much to eat at a single sitting, but if you eat one or two at the right time, good things can be made to happen. Maybe the Mizell BN output is a giant box of prunes, and it's up to us the consumer to make proper use of it. Or something. Definitely the something. I have not ever kept a Mizell anything in my collection. Had mercifully forgotten about the whole "A New Note on Blue Note" marketing schtick. I did like the bold blue record label from that era. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Posted October 3, 2012 Report Share Posted October 3, 2012 I've still not drank the Mizell Kool-Aid as originally packaged...but it does make great sampling fodder, I've heard any number of examples of this, so....I don't know what to make of that, other than maybe a whole box of prunes is too much to eat at a single sitting, but if you eat one or two at the right time, good things can be made to happen. Maybe the Mizell BN output is a giant box of prunes, and it's up to us the consumer to make proper use of it. Or something. Definitely the something. I have not ever kept a Mizell anything in my collection. Had mercifully forgotten about the whole "A New Note on Blue Note" marketing schtick. I did like the bold blue record label from that era. Given all that, I do like what the Mizell brothers did on Johnny Hammond's Gambler's Life, their style was a good fit for the album, though that was released on the Salvation label, a subsidiary of CTI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 Don't know the live one at all. The other one is ok enough, just not anything "special" compared to Who Is.... which kind of hits a zone. I notice that the first Marlena BN (just titled Marlena) is not being included, which is no great loss, imo. Mostly generic George Butler/Wade Marcus voidity, although Richard Davis is on a cut or two, and...you can tell it right away b/c it's the only thing that really jumps up and out. Could - SHOULD - have been so much better with just a few better choices made at a few junctures. Pulled out my copy of Who Is... to see what made such a difference between this and its two predecessors, and the answer jumped out just looking at the credits - Bernard Ingher. All over the place. So, no wonder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 (edited) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWSc08JcDOw They let bedroom music have cool changes in the 70s. Edited October 15, 2012 by JSngry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 15, 2012 Report Share Posted October 15, 2012 I've been listening to this one this afternoon, and if the price ain't too nasty, I think I might spring. Really not a bad album, like I said, kinda hits a zone. And for those who are interested, It's a Chuck Rainey/Harvey Mason hookup on most every cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Why spring if you've already got it? I got that one, too - and it's indeed quite alright. But it's nowhere close to "The Spice of Life" which I absolutely love! Is that first Cadet album similarly fine? The tracklist makes it look like it might be a mixed bag ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Why spring if you've already got it? B/c what I have is a scratchy LP, and an MP3 that I "found" at my" friend's" place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 Oh, I see! Recently got the old US BN CD of it, myself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted October 16, 2012 Report Share Posted October 16, 2012 (edited) Cover views by release date from Tower (scroll to bottom): 11/21/12: http://tower.jp/article/feature_item/2012/09/10/0105 12/19/12: http://tower.jp/article/feature_item/2012/09/10/0104 1/23/13: http://tower.jp/article/feature_item/2012/09/10/0103 Edited October 16, 2012 by Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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