Stonewall15 Posted January 6, 2013 Report Share Posted January 6, 2013 I am looking for a Blu-Ray DVD/SACD player that outputs the SACD audio via an HDMI cable. Are there any out there? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSpeech Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 (edited) Check out the Oppo BDP-103. http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B009LRR5AQ?ie=UTF8&tag=eyes0bf-20&linkCode=shr&camp=213733&creative=393177&creativeASIN=B009LRR5AQ&=electronics&qid=1357540551&sr=1-1&keywords=oppo+bdp-103 Edited January 7, 2013 by EyeSpeech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mr jazz Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 my oppos have performed flawlessly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I also have an Oppo and it is a terrific player for both SACDs and DVDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted O'Reilly Posted January 7, 2013 Report Share Posted January 7, 2013 I also have an Oppo and it is a terrific player for both SACDs and DVDs. Peter, is your Oppo the Blu Ray version? I have an Oppo DV-981HD which (it says) plays SACDs, but I've only ever had the machine hooked up to a TV, where it's been terrific for about 6 years.Deciding on getting a Blu Ray for a new TV, I held off on paying the big bucks for the Oppo, and went for a (Consumer Reports) highly-rated LG player. I'm going to use the Oppo now as a CD player only. Should I expect good results on all CDs, SACD included? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSpeech Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 SACDs are not CDs, but yes Oppo is a good choice for playback. Avoid SACD players that convert the DSD signal to PCM before the DAC. Meaning that you want the the SACD content converted to analog with no steps between. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 I have listened to machines that convert to PCM and machines that don't and I haven't been able to hear any lessening of sound quality. Both sounded great. I have to wonder if the "no PCM for SACDs" stance is simply a continuation of the SACD vs. DVD-A debate. The thing is, they both lost. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall15 Posted January 8, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 The Oppo BDP-103 certainly looks it will do what I want- play SACD output via an HDMI cable. However, the Oppo is very expensive. Are there any other less costly players available- either Oppo or other brands? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigshot Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 The Oppo is great if you want multi region video. But if you just want to play domestic disks, you can get a $150 Sony bluray that has just as good sound quality and plays every format perfectly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSpeech Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Oppo does not provide multiregion video (maybe it did in the original non blu-ray model but not in subsequent models). The Sony does not provide DVD-A compatibility so, no, it does not play every format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 You can only play SACD through HDMI if your preamp/receiver can properly decode it. The last I knew, there were only a couple of preamps/receivers out there that could do it. Denon was one. Maybe Onkyo was the other? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSpeech Posted January 8, 2013 Report Share Posted January 8, 2013 Yes, I think Onkyo has suitable models, but I haven't stayed current on their offerings. I use the Integra 9.8 which is no longer in production, but I know Integra is affiliated with Onkyo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 You can only play SACD through HDMI if your preamp/receiver can properly decode it. The last I knew, there were only a couple of preamps/receivers out there that could do it. Denon was one. Maybe Onkyo was the other? Not true. I have a couple of players that play SACD's very well with no HDMI connection involved. One is a Marantz and the other a Sony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSpeech Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Of course you can play SACDs with no HDMI connection--that is totally obvious. Kevin's point is that to properly bitstream DSD over HDMI, you need a decoder downstream that can accept a DSD signal and convert to analog. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Of course you can play SACDs with no HDMI connection--that is totally obvious. Kevin's point is that to properly bitstream DSD over HDMI, you need a decoder downstream that can accept a DSD signal and convert to analog. Actually, he'll need a specific decoder downstream to handle the copy-protected DSD bitstream. Denon's decoder is called Denon Link and even they had trouble implementing it over the objections of Sony. Sony never wanted SACD streamed. They required players to have analog outputs exclusively for many years. BTW, I never understood the desire to stream DSD anyway. The digital-to-analog conversion has to happen somewhere. Why would the D/A converter be better in a cheapie Denon or Onkyo reveiver than the D/A converter in the player itself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I also have an Oppo and it is a terrific player for both SACDs and DVDs. Peter, is your Oppo the Blu Ray version? I have an Oppo DV-981HD which (it says) plays SACDs, but I've only ever had the machine hooked up to a TV, where it's been terrific for about 6 years.Deciding on getting a Blu Ray for a new TV, I held off on paying the big bucks for the Oppo, and went for a (Consumer Reports) highly-rated LG player. I'm going to use the Oppo now as a CD player only. Should I expect good results on all CDs, SACD included? Ted, I have Oppo BDP-93. It is a Blue Ray player that plays regular DVDs,CDs, SACDs, DVD-A and pretty much anything. Both audio and video quality is extremely good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall15 Posted January 9, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 I play SACDs with a Sony BDP-BX37 Blu-Ray DVD/SACD player via the digital optical output to an Adcom GDA-600 DAC and then into an Adcom GFP-555II Preamp. Based on the previous discussions is the SACD being properly decoded by my Preamp? The Adcom components are fairly old and I wonder if the technology is current enough. The SACDs play beautifully and sound better that the CDs of the same music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSpeech Posted January 9, 2013 Report Share Posted January 9, 2013 Well, this is not an ideal means of SACD playback. There is no way to bitstream DSD over optical output. Meaning your Sony is converting it to PCM and the Adcom is then converting it to analog. What "flavor" of PCM you are outputting, I am not sure. You should be able to determine it using your owners manual--possibly 24/192, which could account for your preference of SACDs over CDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall15 Posted January 10, 2013 Author Report Share Posted January 10, 2013 EyeSpeech- Would it be any better if I used the coaxial output instead of the optical outout? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigshot Posted January 11, 2013 Report Share Posted January 11, 2013 SACDs really aren't worth the trouble. I prefer multichanel blurays. Sound is as good and you get picture too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peter Friedman Posted January 12, 2013 Report Share Posted January 12, 2013 SACDs really aren't worth the trouble. I prefer multichanel blurays. Sound is as good and you get picture too. I don't often want to sit in front of a television when listening to music at home. Most SACDs are hybrid which means you can play them as CDs in your car, your computer or in any place where a CD player is available. My preference is for SACDs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EyeSpeech Posted January 17, 2013 Report Share Posted January 17, 2013 (edited) Exactly. Blu-rays are primarily for movies. SACDs are primarily for music. EyeSpeech- Would it be any better if I used the coaxial output instead of the optical outout? No, but it would be better to use regular analog (RCA) cables, as long as your preamp/receiver doesn't redigitize them. Edited January 17, 2013 by EyeSpeech Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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