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I can't find a College Football version of this thread....am I the only person that has heard enough of Johnny Manziel?....even the Austin members of the family are concerned about him. The ESPN report about him is like you were reading about someone that is close to either committing suicide, or going to do harm to someone else. You would think @ some point his family or Texas A&M will really intervene....and from that report....his father thinks his son has serious problems.

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Posting from a phone...so it could be lost in translation from me to you. Al Davis in his last couple decades was WTF? as a GM. Yes, the Raiders had people that had the title of "GM"....but Davis was the GM....and even called plays down from his box. At one time he knew what he was doing. Jones as GM has been a complete disaster. Davis would never have fired Johnson over something that idiotic.

They're still making crazy money because it's Cowboys and it's what he knows. Should be pointed the owner Jones was closest to was Al Davis....who took him under his wing early on.

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Posting from a phone...so it could be lost in translation from me to you. Al Davis in his last couple decades was WTF? as a GM. Yes, the Raiders had people that had the title of "GM"....but Davis was the GM....and even called plays down from his box. At one time he knew what he was doing. Jones as GM has been a complete disaster. Davis would never have fired Johnson over something that idiotic.

They're still making crazy money because it's Cowboys and it's what he knows. Should be pointed the owner Jones was closest to was Al Davis....who took him under his wing early on.

Al Davis went from brilliant(his early years) to extremely dim. I think he became more interested in keeping and wielding power than making the Raiders better.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08/24/sports/football/nfl-pressure-said-to-prompt-espn-to-quit-film-project.html?smid=tw-share&_r=1&

"At the combative meeting, the people said, league officials conveyed their displeasure with the direction of the documentary, which is expected to describe a narrative that has been captured in various news reports over the past decade: the league turning a blind eye to evidence that players were sustaining brain trauma on the field that could lead to profound, long-term cognitive disability.

Greg Aiello, a spokesman for the N.F.L., said Friday morning that the lunch meeting was requested by ESPN several weeks ago. “At no time did we formally or informally ask them to divorce themselves from the project,” Aiello said. “We know the movie was happening and the book was happening, and we respond to them as best we can. We deny that we pressured them.”"

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The Niners just got called for a holding penalty on a pass play. Hm. Looked kinda familiar to me for some reason.

I think get how this works now. The rules only matter when it ISN'T the Super Bowl. Then the referees can just sit back and collect a paycheck for being spectators. How fun.

The NFL sucks.

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Yesterday's Wall Street Journal reported that since 1950, there has never been an undrafted rookie quarterback who started his team's regular season opener in his first year out of college.

On Monday, the Buffalo Bills announced that they plan to start undrafted rookie Jeff Tuel in their Week 1 game against New England.

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Yesterday's Wall Street Journal reported that since 1950, there has never been an undrafted rookie quarterback who started his team's regular season opener in his first year out of college.

On Monday, the Buffalo Bills announced that they plan to start undrafted rookie Jeff Tuel in their Week 1 game against New England.

They were never going to be that good anyway. On the positive side. It puts them in the Jadeveon Clowney hunt. If they didn't overreach for Manuel; they might have been in the hunt for Bridgewater, or Boyd next year.

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Like the deal the NLFPA agreed too after the last strike and the NFL refs agreed too after their strike....the concession settlement for the former players is yet another major win for the NFL. It's really a joke.

$765 million sounds like a lot, but there are potentially thousands of players....and you figure a third of that amount is probably going to the lawyers who represented the former players.


Each team is going to pay a total of $23.9 million over 20-years. With around $4 million of that for each of the first 3-years and and around $700,000 for each of the remaining 17-years.

Top it off....all the teams have to do is add the amount they're they would have to pay to their internal player budget (which they legally can do..)....and that means less money for current, future players over those 20-years. The teams won't even notice it.

The NLFPA really can't say much (and has stayed out most everything) because they're afraid they will be sued by the former players. The NLFPA after all approved the NFL's handling of concussions in the past.

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Like the deal the NLFPA agreed too after the last strike and the NFL refs agreed too after their strike....the concession settlement for the former players is yet another major win for the NFL. It's really a joke.

$765 million sounds like a lot, but there are potentially thousands of players....and you figure a third of that amount is probably going to the lawyers who represented the former players.

Each team is going to pay a total of $23.9 million over 20-years. With around $4 million of that for each of the first 3-years and and around $700,000 for each of the remaining 17-years.

Top it off....all the teams have to do is add the amount they're they would have to pay to their internal player budget (which they legally can do..)....and that means less money for current, future players over those 20-years. The teams won't even notice it.

The NLFPA really can't say much (and has stayed out most everything) because they're afraid they will be sued by the former players. The NLFPA after all approved the NFL's handling of concussions in the past.

When I saw that the deal wasn't in the billions knew it was a big win for the league. Current NFL revenue close to 10 billion for one year.

Saw a report that mentioned the retired players have no idea what they'll get.....must have 2 doctor exams before determination of benefits.

Opens the door for the 18 regular season games schedule.

Talking safety and teams playing games Sunday and then Thursday nothing short of a farce.

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When I saw that the deal wasn't in the billions knew it was a big win for the league. Current NFL revenue close to 10 billion for one year.

Saw a report that mentioned the retired players have no idea what they'll get.....must have 2 doctor exams before determination of benefits.

Opens the door for the 18 regular season games schedule.

Talking safety and teams playing games Sunday and then Thursday nothing short of a farce.

Revenue is expected to be $25 billion in 15-years....in the meantime by the time they finally pay off the money in 20-years....the cost of inflation would lesson the value of the remaining 17-years paid. They're probably going to lose another 25-35% of the money's value on top of what they're going to pay the lawyers.

What is $75,000-$100,000 going to do for anyone with Dementia? That's like one year's worth of treatment...and they're not even getting it one lump sum payment.

This settlement also kept the NFL from opening up it's records on concussions. Current players and future players are screwed because they can't say they don't know the about the risks and accept the liability....it also would be covered under the CBA.

Goodell got a new contract that doubles his salary after getting the NFLPA to kowtow for the last CBA. Who knows how much more he's going to get in the future now that he got the Refs and the former players to do the same.

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When I saw that the deal wasn't in the billions knew it was a big win for the league. Current NFL revenue close to 10 billion for one year.

Saw a report that mentioned the retired players have no idea what they'll get.....must have 2 doctor exams before determination of benefits.

Opens the door for the 18 regular season games schedule.

Talking safety and teams playing games Sunday and then Thursday nothing short of a farce.

Revenue is expected to be $25 billion in 15-years....in the meantime by the time they finally pay off the money in 20-years....the cost of inflation would lesson the value of the remaining 17-years paid. They're probably going to lose another 25-35% of the money's value on top of what they're going to pay the lawyers.

What is $75,000-$100,000 going to do for anyone with Dementia? That's like one year's worth of treatment...and they're not even getting it one lump sum payment.

This settlement also kept the NFL from opening up it's records on concussions. Current players and future players are screwed because they can't say they don't know the about the risks and accept the liability....it also would be covered under the CBA.

Goodell got a new contract that doubles his salary after getting the NFLPA to kowtow for the last CBA. Who knows how much more he's going to get in the future now that he got the Refs and the former players to do the same.

The lockout settlement hosed the current players, and this deal hoses the former players.

I get the feeling that the NFL told the former players' lawyers that 'we can settle for this, or we could tie you up in court for 10 years'

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