Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0
Claude Schlouch

Hank Mobley Copenhagen 1968

67 posts in this topic

Hi folks,

For those who don’t have yet this material, it is now available from Cyberseekers (CDR from China sold in Japan)

Vol.1 6 tracks 67:38

Vol.2 3 tracks 61:28

Vol.3 7 tracks 73:48

COPENHAGEN 1968(3CDR) 4,800 JPY

Edited by JSngry
Link to unauthorized material removed.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Any idea of the sound quality of this release? It looks fascinating.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Any idea of the sound quality of this release? It looks fascinating.

Go on the site where you will be able to listen two excerpts of the tunes. Same quality as the circulating tapes. No miracle!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Sheesh, seeing such offers, I nostalgically think back to the days of "trees" ... if digital is an option, this stuff is around.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Claude, is this an authorized release? Just checking.

A "CD-R from China, sold in Japan"? I doubt it. Reeks of bootleg all the way.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Link removed. If legitimacy of release can be provided, link can be re-posted, no problem.

Edited by JSngry
Becuase I type just as good as I dance.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Some years ago, I ordered some CD from this site, and had problems with them. They refund me, and they said that they were not responsible because CD were made in China.

Good idea to have removed this site. Thanks!

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If this is the stuff I have on an old cassette, it sounds pretty horrible. The tape operator was clearly a fan of NHOP, as he is featured prominently in the "mix". As big of a Mobley fan as I am, I could do without it. You're not missing much.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If this is the stuff I have on an old cassette, it sounds pretty horrible. The tape operator was clearly a fan of NHOP, as he is featured prominently in the "mix". As big of a Mobley fan as I am, I could do without it. You're not missing much.

Bullshit

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If this is the stuff I have on an old cassette, it sounds pretty horrible. The tape operator was clearly a fan of NHOP, as he is featured prominently in the "mix". As big of a Mobley fan as I am, I could do without it. You're not missing much.

Bullshit

confused.gif

Please elaborate.

Edited by J.A.W.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I agree with Michael, but would also like him to elaborate.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have heard this and it does sound better than Kevin suggests.

I know we have to avoid a link, but can we ask Claude for a track listing? There's one or two tunes that I could not identify.

Bertrand.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Claude, is this an authorized release? Just checking.

A "CD-R from China, sold in Japan"? I doubt it. Reeks of bootleg all the way.

I am sure Mobley never saw money from this (beyond the usual Café Montmartre gig fee)!

This is bootleg material, no doubt...

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I have heard this and it does sound better than Kevin suggests.

I know we have to avoid a link, but can we ask Claude for a track listing? There's one or two tunes that I could not identify.

Bertrand.

Mon cher Bertrand,

Ce qui suit te fera sans doute plaisir:

Hank Mobley (ts), Kenny Drew (p), Niels-Henning Ørsted Pedersen (b), Albert Heath (dm)

Cafe Montmartre, Copenhagen, Denmark, April 1968

The vamp 20:20

Alone together 6:47

Blue bossa 16:01

Rhythm-a-ning 3:15

Blue Monk 8:00

If I were a bell 12:15

Workout 17:58

Up, over and out 26:43

Third time around 16:03

Unknown title (inc) 4:58

Summertime 17:15

Airegin into 9:21

The theme 5:29

Ton ami Claude

Edited by Claude Schlouch

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

there's also this one ... the most complete version so far, yours truly had a (modest!) hand in putting it together:

__________

Hank Mobley / Johnny Griffin - Quintet
Jazz am Rhein 1968
Köln (DE), Rheinpark, Tanzbrunnen
September 1, 1968

Hank Mobley - tenor sax
Johnny Griffin - tenor sax
Bora Rokovic - piano
Jimmy Woode - bass
Kenny Clare - drums

1. Stage Announcer Intro (0:51)
2. Sophisticated Lady (Ellington) [JG]
> My Funny Valentine (Rodgers-Hart) [HM] (11:29)
3. Wee (Best-Gillespie) > Applause > Stage Announcer Outro [cut] (13:53)
4. Some Other Blues (Coltrane) 10:09 [italian voiceover 2:55-3:01]

TT: 36:25

Source: radio broadcasts

__________

It comes from (at least) two different sources ... the usual version misses #4. Not sure about the previously linked boot - it has the date, but I don't know if it just adds #1-3 to the third disc or if it has it all ... it was also badly in need of a speed correction, the above timings reflect the fixed versions, but include applause and all.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites
On 5/19/2013 at 2:54 PM, Kevin Bresnahan said:

If this is the stuff I have on an old cassette, it sounds pretty horrible. The tape operator was clearly a fan of NHOP, as he is featured prominently in the "mix". As big of a Mobley fan as I am, I could do without it. You're not missing much.

On 5/19/2013 at 3:03 PM, Michael Weiss said:

Bullshit

Does this mean that you have a copy of this that you can clearly hear the whole band? On the cassette I have, NHOP's bass overloads the mic in a couple of places, It sounds like his mic level is cranked up too much. However, I don't recall Mobley ever coming through clearly. What does come through is great stuff but I can't get past the crappy sound.

I'll have to dig out that cassette (and cassette deck) again. Maybe as the years have worn on I can appreciate it more?

Edited by Kevin Bresnahan

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

there's also this one ... the most complete version so far, yours truly had a (modest!) hand in putting it together:

__________

Hank Mobley / Johnny Griffin - Quintet

Jazz am Rhein 1968

Köln (DE), Rheinpark, Tanzbrunnen

September 1, 1968

Hank Mobley - tenor sax

Johnny Griffin - tenor sax

Bora Rokovic - piano

Jimmy Woode - bass

Kenny Clare - drums

1. Stage Announcer Intro (0:51)

2. Sophisticated Lady (Ellington) [JG]

> My Funny Valentine (Rodgers-Hart) [HM] (11:29)

3. Wee (Best-Gillespie) > Applause > Stage Announcer Outro [cut] (13:53)

4. Some Other Blues (Coltrane) 10:09 [italian voiceover 2:55-3:01]

TT: 36:25

Source: radio broadcasts

__________

It comes from (at least) two different sources ... the usual version misses #4. Not sure about the previously linked boot - it has the date, but I don't know if it just adds #1-3 to the third disc or if it has it all ... it was also badly in need of a speed correction, the above timings reflect the fixed versions, but include applause and all.

Dear King Ubu,

This session is included in the 3CD bootleg set in sale in Japan. It contains 2 CD from Copenhagen, April 1968 and 1 from Koln, September 1 or 10, 1968.

All the best,

Claude

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

I agree with Michael, but would also like him to elaborate.

Except for the Left Bank gig with Wynton Kelly in 1967, this is the only live recording I know of Hank Mobley fronting a group in a club. To hear Hank stretch out - for a very long time - on his own tunes - (despite the obvious inebriation) is priceless. I hear Trane's influence more pronounced in Hank's later years as this tape clearly demonstrates, especially on Third Time Around. This is also some of the best Tootie Heath on tape foreshadowing his playing on The Prisoner. I played this for George Coleman a few weeks ago and he was particularly enamored with Tootie's playing on here.

The sound might not be ideal but really, who gives a fuck? Maybe my dub is a little better than yours Kevin, but I hear Hank clearly throughout the tape.

Edited by Michael Weiss

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

there's also this one ... the most complete version so far, yours truly had a (modest!) hand in putting it together:

__________

Hank Mobley / Johnny Griffin - Quintet

Jazz am Rhein 1968

Köln (DE), Rheinpark, Tanzbrunnen

September 1, 1968

Hank Mobley - tenor sax

Johnny Griffin - tenor sax

Bora Rokovic - piano

Jimmy Woode - bass

Kenny Clare - drums

1. Stage Announcer Intro (0:51)

2. Sophisticated Lady (Ellington) [JG]

> My Funny Valentine (Rodgers-Hart) [HM] (11:29)

3. Wee (Best-Gillespie) > Applause > Stage Announcer Outro [cut] (13:53)

4. Some Other Blues (Coltrane) 10:09 [italian voiceover 2:55-3:01]

TT: 36:25

Source: radio broadcasts

__________

It comes from (at least) two different sources ... the usual version misses #4. Not sure about the previously linked boot - it has the date, but I don't know if it just adds #1-3 to the third disc or if it has it all ... it was also badly in need of a speed correction, the above timings reflect the fixed versions, but include applause and all.

Dear King Ubu,

This session is included in the 3CD bootleg set in sale in Japan. It contains 2 CD from Copenhagen, April 1968 and 1 from Koln, September 1 or 10, 1968.

All the best,

Claude

It runs several minutes longer than 160, so doesn't fit onto two discs.

But more interesting: do they give timings and did the steal (I wouldn't use that word if they weren't making money of it) the fixed version of the Mobe/Griff?

I agree with Michael, but would also like him to elaborate.

Except for the Left Bank gig with Wynton Kelly in 1967, this is the only live recording I know of Hank Mobley fronting a group in a club. To hear Hank stretch out - for a very long time - on his own tunes - (despite the obvious inebriation) is priceless. I hear Trane's influence more pronounced in Hank's later years as this tape clearly demonstrates, especially on Third Time Around. This is also some of the best Tootie Heath on tape foreshadowing his playing on The Prisoner. I played this for George Coleman a few weeks ago and he was particularly enamored with Tootie's playing on here.

The sound might not be ideal but really, who gives a fuck? Maybe my dub is a little better than yours Kevin, but I hear Hank clearly throughout the tape.

:tup :tup :tup

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If this is the stuff I have on an old cassette, it sounds pretty horrible. The tape operator was clearly a fan of NHOP, as he is featured prominently in the "mix". As big of a Mobley fan as I am, I could do without it. You're not missing much.

Bullshit

Does this mean that you have a copy of this that you can clearly hear the whole band? On the cassette I have, NHOP's bass overloads the mic in a couple of places, It sounds like his mic level is cranked up too much. However, I don't recall Mobley ever coming through clearly. What does come through is great stuff but I can't get past the crappy sound.

I'll have to dig out that cassette (and cassette deck) again. Maybe as the years have worn on I can appreciate it more?

I gotta dig out my CDRs too, I don't at all recall NHOP overloading the mic and while Hank is somewhat 'distant' not so much that I couldn't enjoy this rare glimpse of, as Michael points out, Hank really stretching out.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

If this is the stuff I have on an old cassette, it sounds pretty horrible. The tape operator was clearly a fan of NHOP, as he is featured prominently in the "mix". As big of a Mobley fan as I am, I could do without it. You're not missing much.

Bullshit

Does this mean that you have a copy of this that you can clearly hear the whole band? On the cassette I have, NHOP's bass overloads the mic in a couple of places, It sounds like his mic level is cranked up too much. However, I don't recall Mobley ever coming through clearly. What does come through is great stuff but I can't get past the crappy sound.

I'll have to dig out that cassette (and cassette deck) again. Maybe as the years have worn on I can appreciate it more?

I gotta dig out my CDRs too, I don't at all recall NHOP overloading the mic and while Hank is somewhat 'distant' not so much that I couldn't enjoy this rare glimpse of, as Michael points out, Hank really stretching out.

I agree - have listened to my 3 CDr set (AIFF files made from FLAC's if I can recall) Hank's tenor shines through quite well & the bass is not overpowering

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Does anyone know what the unidentified track is?

Bertrand.

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

My info says it's a blues and it's incomplete (theme may be missing, if there ever was one) - need to dig for the CDRs, too.

Also, my info says it's from March 1968, and "Rhythm-a-Ning" is placed at the beginning of it all:

CD1/67:40
1. Rhythm-a-Ning (Thelonious Monk) 3:16
2. The Vamp (Hank Mobley) 20:36
3. Alone Together (Schwartz-Dietz) 6:58
4. Blue Bossa (Kenny Dorham) 16:15
5. Blue Monk (Thelonious Monk) / The Theme (Miles Davis) 8:09
6. If I Were a Bell (Frank Loesser) 12:24

CD2/61:29
1. Workout (Hank Mobley) 18:13
2. Up Over and Out (Hank Mobley) 26:59
3. Third Time Around (Hank Mobley) 16:16

CD3/37:24
1. Delauny's Dilemma (John Lewis) 5:01 [inc]
2. Summertime (Gershwin-Heyward) 17:22
3. Airegin (Sonny Rollins) / The Theme (Miles Davis) 15:00

Edited by king ubu

Share this post


Link to post
Share on other sites

Please sign in to comment

You will be able to leave a comment after signing in



Sign In Now
Sign in to follow this  
Followers 0

  • Recently Browsing   0 members

    No registered users viewing this page.