jazzbo Posted December 16, 2014 Report Share Posted December 16, 2014 On to disc 3 and the sound is fabulous! No extraneous noise, the sound is full and dynamic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trane123 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Well, I have the original Japanese boxed set so I'm trying to decide if I should get the Mosaic version. Decisions, decisions... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Yes, that's a hard decision. I can't help with comparisons as I don't have that set. . . I have four I think of the Spotlite cds, but not any from Japan, nor have I heard any of that set. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 Yes, that's a hard decision. I can't help with comparisons as I don't have that set. . . I have four I think of the Spotlite cds, but not any from Japan, nor have I heard any of that set. . . . How do the Spotlite CD's compare to the box set? - I've had those since the 90's but maybe upgrading soon - I think I'll be getting the Dial box for Christmas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I haven't done a comparison, and probably won't as the Spotlite cds are in a box somewhere. . . I moved 20 months ago and do not have room to display all my discs and these are among those in a box somewhere in the garage or spare bedroom. I have not yet played much from the Mosaic that I have on Spotlite cds. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 My two cents: the weird sounds of wich you are debating about are positively digital artefacts. In the first discs, somewhat irritating to my ears. But the sound of Bird, Miles, etc, is clearer than previous editions. Forgive my english. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jujus7 Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) Enough of sonic comparisons! How about some comments on Mosaic's compilation and of the music itself ? Thank you. Edited December 18, 2014 by cocos7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 (edited) I've read most of the notes and they're very good. They hold and compile together a lot of interesting material for the bebop connoisseur as well as the neophyte. It takes a bit of getting used to some of the combinations of sessions on discs here, especially for someone like me who has more often in the past listened to these sessions on the Savoy/Dial set, or Master of Jazz etc. discs. But that said the discs play very nicely from start to finish. I'll just quickly say I continue to disagree with the idea that these sounds are digital in nature. That does not make sense according to what Mosaic and Jonathon have reported about the "cleaning" methods, and they just don't sound that way to me. But regardless I don't think these sounds make enjoying the set impossible, certainly not for me. The music I've heard for so long that I just don't know what to say about it. I think it's IMPORTANT music in my listening world and for jazz fans and scholars. I have been enjoying the sessions I haven't paid a lot of attention to previously such as the Erroll Garner and the "Home Cooking" material (that, though it's not easy listening, sounds clearer here to me). Edited December 18, 2014 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gmonahan Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 I'm also enjoying the set. I think the notes are pretty good, though I'm a little wary since Ross Russell collaborated with Tony Williams, and his "Bird Lives!" is, at best, controversial. That said, I like the inside stuff, and I think the musical analysis by Tony Williams is very good. Photos, discography, and the book in general are all up to Mosaic's usual very high standard. gregmo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 18, 2014 Report Share Posted December 18, 2014 So, is it just the one session that's of "questionable" audio quality? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carl Baugher Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I'm enjoying the set and find the sound and organization to be good, overall. The notes are also informative and well-written. All told, a good Mosaic set. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 So, is it just the one session that's of "questionable" audio quality? I haven't gotten through all the set but so far the "questionable audio quality" is only on those disc 2 tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 Anybody yet compare the sound to that of The Savoy and Dial box set? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 19, 2014 Report Share Posted December 19, 2014 I've done a few comparisons and imo the Mosaic sounds better. More body to the sound and more dynamics. It's not as if Mosaic worked miracles, but the sound is better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtSalt Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 My order's in, if anyone can improve the sound with a definitive release it's Mosaic. Like most, I have a lot of this material, but I don't have the complete Dial recordings and from this alone, reinforced with the history captured in the booklet, makes this set essential for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwbol Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 What did you think of the wooshing on disc 2 when compared to the several problematic soundcloud samples, ArtSalt? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted December 25, 2014 Report Share Posted December 25, 2014 (edited) Will it be under the tree, will it be under the tree??? ? T-minus an hour and counting! Received the Blue Note Monk for Christmas in 1985 ... Edit: Got it!! Love the photos in the booklet. Edited December 26, 2014 by Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtSalt Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 What did you think of the wooshing on disc 2 when compared to the several problematic soundcloud samples, ArtSalt? I've only just ordered it, it hasn't arrived yet. So I have to wait and hear! I will definitely be comparing the sound to the Mosaic Serge Chaloff set which sound I was not greatly impressed with. Also Japanese CD's of the Parker sides and The Chase. The soundcloud samples sounded acceptable to me from a casual listen on a laptop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 be careful what you woosh for...... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed S Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 In what was a total surprise, this set found its way under the tree yesterday. I was as happy as I was surprised - as all the conversation about the sound really had me wanting to hear the music. I'm not an audiophile by any stretch, so much as I suspected the problems with tracks in question in no way impeded my enjoyment of the music. In fact, had there been no issue discussed on the board, I would have chalked up what I heard to lousy source material. I trust that Mosaic is going to issue the best possible sound they can. The music on the set is fabulous - I've listened to about half of it today. It's shaping up to be exactly what I was hoping for relative to the content. As I've said before, I really like these single label sets that Mosaic has done. Minor point - I really like that the Dexter Gordon made the cover image. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 In what was a total surprise, this set found its way under the tree yesterday. I was as happy as I was surprised - as all the conversation about the sound really had me wanting to hear the music. I'm not an audiophile by any stretch, so much as I suspected the problems with tracks in question in no way impeded my enjoyment of the music. In fact, had there been no issue discussed on the board, I would have chalked up what I heard to lousy source material. I trust that Mosaic is going to issue the best possible sound they can. The music on the set is fabulous - I've listened to about half of it today. It's shaping up to be exactly what I was hoping for relative to the content. As I've said before, I really like these single label sets that Mosaic has done. Minor point - I really like that the Dexter Gordon made the cover image. Agree with you on the sound. Some of the CP sounds startlingly good to me. Some of the other music - the Erroll Garner for example, sounded lousy. The Dodo Marmarosa sounded fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 Listened to part of disc 1 and not hearing any issues. Of course, I'm not an audiophile Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin V Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 I was really tempted to pick this up on Amazon with gift cards. Figuring that I'll have time to get it down the road, I ended up ordering the Bird Savoy and Dial box instead. In any event, I'm eagerly awaiting on the arrival of a huge hunk of Bird. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
erwbol Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 (edited) I was really tempted to pick this up on Amazon with gift cards. Figuring that I'll have time to get it down the road, I ended up ordering the Bird Savoy and Dial box instead. In any event, I'm eagerly awaiting on the arrival of a huge hunk of Bird. Be sure to check your set for a faulty sped up disc 4. There's no reason to believe faulty sets aren't still being send to consumers from old stock. The total time on the corrected disc 4 reads 67:48 on my CD player, the defective disc 65:10. Edited December 26, 2014 by erwbol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justin V Posted December 26, 2014 Report Share Posted December 26, 2014 I was really tempted to pick this up on Amazon with gift cards. Figuring that I'll have time to get it down the road, I ended up ordering the Bird Savoy and Dial box instead. In any event, I'm eagerly awaiting on the arrival of a huge hunk of Bird. Be sure to check your set for a faulty sped up disc 4. There's no reason to believe faulty sets aren't still being send to consumers from old stock. The total time on the corrected disc 4 reads 67:48 on my CD player, the defective disc 65:10. Thanks. I'm keeping my fingers crossed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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