blind-blake Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 Seems like a lot of obscure vocalists on this. Gives me pause. Sure, Bessie Smith was great. Nevertheless.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 3 minutes ago, blind-blake said: Seems like a lot of obscure vocalists on this. Gives me pause. Sure, Bessie Smith was great. Nevertheless.... That's what interests me the most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted November 19, 2015 Report Share Posted November 19, 2015 not really so obscure; and Roy Evans is very interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 Yes, I've got 90 to 95% of it, but anyway... pre-ordered! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 On November 19, 2015 at 1:34:33 PM, AllenLowe said: Not really so obscure; and Roy Evans is very interesting. Check again. That's Royce Evans, one of the few castrati to make into the 20th century. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazztrain Posted November 23, 2015 Report Share Posted November 23, 2015 44 minutes ago, Late said: Check again. That's Royce Evans, one of the few castrati to make into the 20th century. I assume that's a joke. The recordings are with Roy Evans. He was an early singer/yodeler who recorded in several contexts and genres. An interesting figure as Allen noted. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 On November 19, 2015 at 12:38:53 PM, blind-blake said: Seems like a lot of obscure vocalists on this. Gives me pause. If you go through the Mosaic discography (James P. Johnson's) scanning for vocalists, and then go to YouTube, you'll find a large number of the tracks there (usually from Document discs). You can sample whole songs and see if you like/don't like the vocalists. (That's what I did at least.) Bessie Smith, Ida Cox, and Ethel Waters aside, there's: • Lavinia Turner • Sadie Jackson • Perry Bradford • Rosa Henderson • Martha Copeland • Gus Horsley • Clara Smith • Eva Taylor • Spencer Williams • Andy Razaf • Chick Bullock • Anna Robinson • Ruby Smith The piano playing is killer throughout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazztrain Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 34 minutes ago, Late said: If you go through the Mosaic discography (James P. Johnson's) scanning for vocalists, and then go to YouTube, you'll find a large number of the tracks there (usually from Document discs). You can sample whole songs and see if you like/don't like the vocalists. (That's what I did at least.) Bessie Smith, Ida Cox, and Ethel Waters aside, there's: • Lavinia Turner • Sadie Jackson • Perry Bradford • Rosa Henderson • Martha Copeland • Gus Horsley • Clara Smith • Eva Taylor • Spencer Williams • Andy Razaf • Chick Bullock • Anna Robinson • Ruby Smith The piano playing is killer throughout. And the aforementioned Roy Evans. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blind-blake Posted November 24, 2015 Report Share Posted November 24, 2015 33 minutes ago, Late said: If you go through the Mosaic discography (James P. Johnson's) scanning for vocalists, and then go to YouTube, you'll find a large number of the tracks there (usually from Document discs). You can sample whole songs and see if you like/don't like the vocalists. (That's what I did at least.) Bessie Smith, Ida Cox, and Ethel Waters aside, there's: • Lavinia Turner • Sadie Jackson • Perry Bradford • Rosa Henderson • Martha Copeland • Gus Horsley • Clara Smith • Eva Taylor • Spencer Williams • Andy Razaf • Chick Bullock • Anna Robinson • Ruby Smith The piano playing is killer throughout. Good idea. I'll give it a shot. Thanks! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted November 25, 2015 Report Share Posted November 25, 2015 On November 19, 2015 at 3:38:53 PM, blind-blake said: Seems like a lot of obscure vocalists on this. Gives me pause. Sure, Bessie Smith was great. Nevertheless.... 13 hours ago, Late said: If you go through the Mosaic discography (James P. Johnson's) scanning for vocalists, and then go to YouTube, you'll find a large number of the tracks there (usually from Document discs). You can sample whole songs and see if you like/don't like the vocalists. (That's what I did at least.) Bessie Smith, Ida Cox, and Ethel Waters aside, there's: • Lavinia Turner • Sadie Jackson • Perry Bradford • Rosa Henderson • Martha Copeland • Gus Horsley • Clara Smith • Eva Taylor • Spencer Williams • Andy Razaf • Chick Bullock • Anna Robinson • Ruby Smith The piano playing is killer throughout. Followed Late's suggestions. Although I didn't go through the whole list, some are worth hearing but some like Lavinia Turner, in my opinion, are not. This set will, on balance, be worth it for his playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Late Posted November 28, 2015 Report Share Posted November 28, 2015 For those that don't go in for vocalists, this disc provides a fine demonstration of Johnson's art in solo format ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted November 29, 2015 Report Share Posted November 29, 2015 6 hours ago, Late said: For those that don't go in for vocalists, this disc provides a fine demonstration of Johnson's art in solo format ... Absolutely! Another James P. recommendation, for anyone still spinning vinyl: I play this set more than any of the others in the Time-Life "Giants of Jazz" series. 3 LPs of TREMENDOUS music. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Just got this email from Scott Wenzel (I preordered the set): We wanted to update everyone regarding the release date. The James P. Johnson CD set is expected to ship by early January and the Gerry Mulligan LP set is expected late January/February. We did plan on having an earlier release date and apologize for any inconvenience this may have caused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwingItTrev Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 JP Johnson just shipped! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hot Ptah Posted December 30, 2015 Report Share Posted December 30, 2015 My mother bought this James P. Johnson set for me for Christmas. She had to tell me that I would be receiving it after the first of the year. I really don't mind! I am just happy to be getting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EKE BBB Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 (edited) Landed at my nest yesterday. On heavy rotation now! BTW: superb liner notes by Scott E. Brown who hopefully will have his expanded and updated James P. Johnson biography published at some point in time within the next years... Edited January 21, 2016 by EKE BBB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 Okay, okay, I want this! Still need the Bee Hive as well ... any time frame for the upcoming Pres set known? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 I ordered mine on December 29th and nevertheless got No 00006! (I hope that doesn't mean only 6 people ordered it before me. ) BTW Mosaic says it's everything from the period controlled by Sony and I guess it is, but I have a CBS cd entitled "From Ragtime to Jazz: The complete Piano Solos (1921-39) and it includes The Harlem Strut from 1921 which is not on the Mosaic. Probably because it was recorded for Black Swan which is probably pd rather than owned by Sony. Even that CBS cd's subtitled may be a bit misleading since it doesn't include the flip side of Harlem Strut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 got mine too, and loving it; only dissent is that I think the notes are really, really......not good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted January 21, 2016 Report Share Posted January 21, 2016 2 hours ago, AllenLowe said: got mine too, and loving it; only dissent is that I think the notes are really, really......not good. Allen, what do you find problematic about the notes? I don't have the set (yet), so I haven't read them. I'm just curious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 22, 2016 Report Share Posted January 22, 2016 just his poor way of describing stride piano (I believe this was talked about earlier, with Larry Kart giving a good illustration of the contrast with someone like Dick Wellstood). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
miles65 Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 On 21-1-2016 at 6:28 PM, medjuck said: I ordered mine on December 29th and nevertheless got No 00006! (I hope that doesn't mean only 6 people ordered it before me. ) BTW Mosaic says it's everything from the period controlled by Sony and I guess it is, but I have a CBS cd entitled "From Ragtime to Jazz: The complete Piano Solos (1921-39) and it includes The Harlem Strut from 1921 which is not on the Mosaic. Probably because it was recorded for Black Swan which is probably pd rather than owned by Sony. Even that CBS cd's subtitled may be a bit misleading since it doesn't include the flip side of Harlem Strut. According to the Tom Lord online disco the flip side of Black Swan 2026 is 'The unknown blues' by Fletcher Henderson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 Hope mine arrives soon! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted January 24, 2016 Report Share Posted January 24, 2016 I haven't even checked the number on mine; I think I ordered in the Fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mike Neely Posted February 4, 2016 Report Share Posted February 4, 2016 (edited) Over the years I've gotten real strange numbers on my box sets. One time it is 146 although the set had been on sale for years and seemed to be a popular set. I'm not sure if there's any relationship between the numbers and the inventory - has always seemed somewhat random to me. Edited February 5, 2016 by Mike Neely odd line breaks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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