Michael Weiss Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 (courtesy of Mark Stryker) with Ray Santisi at Connolly's Stardust Room, Boston, December, 1962 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Wow. What was Tony, like 16? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 (edited) Must have been. Wasn't he 18 when he started playing with Miles in '63-'64? Edited December 16, 2015 by Scott Dolan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 He was born in 1945 so he was probably 16 or 17. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 12 minutes ago, Scott Dolan said: Must have been. Wasn't he 18 when he started playing with Miles in '63-'64? 17. Played with Jackie Mac first, so that's why I figured he was 16 in the pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 According to his wiki page, he was indeed 16 when Jackie hired him. I never heard much of any McLean so I wasn't even aware that Tony ever played with him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 1 hour ago, Scott Dolan said: According to his wiki page, he was indeed 16 when Jackie hired him. I never heard much of any McLean so I wasn't even aware that Tony ever played with him. Get yourself to your preferred purveyor of music and listen to One Step Beyond, young man! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 He was playing with Sam Rivers at like 14. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Have it playing on Spotify as I type this, Guy! That's a real who's who lineup! Thanks for the heads up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted December 16, 2015 Report Share Posted December 16, 2015 Man, Blue Rondo is a motherfucker! That tune alone made this album worth checking out. Thanks, Guy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
.:.impossible Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Great picture.  Scott? Dude. Jackie McLean. So many recommendations that it is hardly worth starting. Just dig in! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Brother, I know. Hey, we all have artists would never got to. He's one of mine (as a leader, that is). I did thoroughly enjoy One Step Beyond. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 For the entire decade of the 1960's, McLean made one masterpiece after another. No duds. NONE. They're ALL fantastic. You are in for a TREAT.   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Word. And Miles knew how to "steal" talent. What if Miles hadn't hired Tony. . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Jack said that Jackie told him, you'll end up with Miles, Miles always gets my drummers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 4 minutes ago, HutchFan said: For the entire decade of the 1960's, McLean made one masterpiece after another. No duds. NONE. They're ALL fantastic. You are in for a TREAT.   Yeah, as much as I really don't care for it, I think Spotify is going to get a monster work out from me. Too close to Christmas for for Mrs. Claus to approve any new music purchases. That said, Spotify has a ton of McLean titles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Two more titles you should hear: Let Freedom Ring and Action!  Along with One Step Beyond, they're probably my favorite Jackie Mac records. But, like I said, you really can't miss with any of the Blue Notes.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flat5 Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 I also like Jackie's 1950s records. Great feel and phrasing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stryker Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 (edited) Tony had just turned 17 when he first met and played with Jackie at Connolly's in Boston in December 1962 -- that when and where this picture was taken. So he was 17. Jackie tell the story in the liner notes of "One Step Beyond." It's so beautiful to see a picture from that gig. It really brings everything down to human scale. FWIW, I used "Blue Rondo" as my break tune for a number of years with my own band, and the basic frontline of my group was always based on the alto/trombone sound of Jackie and Grachan Moncur. (For you Chicago folks, my partner was the great bass trumpet player Ryan Shultz, whose instrument, of course, is pitched like a trombone. This was back in the mid '80s in Urbana.) Lot of material in our book either written by Jackie, arranged by him or associated with him -- "Capuchin Swing," "Blue Fable," "Snuff" ("Iddy Bitty" with modal changes) "Marilyn's Dilemma," "Blues in a Jiff," "The Three Minors," "The Way I Feel," "I Love You," "I Hear a Rhapsody," "Formidable."  Edited December 17, 2015 by Mark Stryker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Both the Mosaic 'Complete Blue Note 1964-66 Jackie McLean Sessions'Â box and Grachan Moncur III Mosaic Select are must-haves for Jackie fans. Unfortunately, both are OOP, too. Don't know what they're going for on the 2nd hand market these days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gheorghe Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Yeah it´s really a moving story that Jackie McLean tells in his liner notes about how he met Tony and brought him to N.Y. Tony really had a great start in early 1963 there with the legendary McLean-Graham Moncur III -Bobby Hutcherson - line up, besides recording they performed at the Living Theatre I think. And the "Una Mas" with K.D......, until he got the call from Miles..... Tony Williams is one of my all time favourites. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Losing Tony Williams at 51 sucks. Thanks goodness he started so young. Also, just imagine... leading your own Blue Note record date at the age of 19. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 Wasn't he still 18 on that date? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 8 minutes ago, Joe said: Losing Tony Williams at 51 sucks. Thanks goodness he started so young. Â I found it hard to believe he was gone when he passed. He was such a force within my musical world, he and Kenny Clarke inspired me to take up the drums. Far too young. I lost my wife at 52, far too young. Life is fleeting and we should enjoy every minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted December 17, 2015 Report Share Posted December 17, 2015 8 minutes ago, jazzbo said: I found it hard to believe he was gone when he passed. He was such a force within my musical world, he and Kenny Clarke inspired me to take up the drums. Far too young. I lost my wife at 52, far too young. Life is fleeting and we should enjoy every minute. Word. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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