medjuck Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 The great actor Vittorio Gassman in Hamlet's Monologue. On piano: the great Duke Ellington! Filmed in Milan in January 1966: Wow, that;s great. What's the song Duke's playing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Free For All Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 It's Such Sweet Thunder, no? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted October 23, 2011 Report Share Posted October 23, 2011 Ah, yes. Fitting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted October 24, 2011 Author Report Share Posted October 24, 2011 What do you all suggest I get next? I would add The Great Paris Concert, my favorite of all of Ellington's latter-day live recordings, and one of my desert island Ellington discs. Guess I got to re-evaluate that one, then... never really thought that one was out of the ordinary (which with Duke is fine enough!). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 According to www.amazon.com and www.bestbuy.com there's a Sony Legacy box set coming out, Complete Duke Ellington '51 to '58. . . . A Drum is A Woman at last! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 (edited) It says "complete studio albums" - wonder what they do the fake Newport tracks and "Bal Masque"? Now they have a chance to correct "Such Sweet Thunder" too. Edited August 5, 2012 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 5, 2012 Report Share Posted August 5, 2012 It'll be interesting to see what happens. I'm looking forward to it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alankin Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 How many CDs would this be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brown Posted August 6, 2012 Report Share Posted August 6, 2012 (edited) Yes, Chuck's right about Such Sweet Thunder. It really needs correcting. The last time it came out on CD in the U.S. Phil Schaap screwed up and used an alternate take of "Up and Down, Up and Down". His error cost us the original wonderful ending with Clark Terry's muted trumpet voicing Shakespeare's immortal line, "What fools these mortals be". Now, even the European bootleggers use Schaap's incorrect version when they rip off this album. Edited August 6, 2012 by Don Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 complete studio albums - that would imply that all the material released later on some LP series is not included? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 In general with these box sets, extra material on previously released cds have been included. So my guess is that they will incorporate studio bonus cuts as well. Like Chuck I'm interested to see if they include studio material that had masqueraded as live on the original releases. I'll give them big kudos if they do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) Probably not much hope for "orphaned" material like the 1957 recording of The Perfume Suite. Since one of the movements was recorded in 1961 they have an out. Edited August 8, 2012 by Chuck Nessa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 We'll see what happens. Their track record has been pretty good so far on these sets. Duke presents more of a problem. . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazztrain Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 There was an earlier cd reissue (French, I think) of the original album that I've kept since it has the aforementioned Clark Terry "What fools these mortals be" closing. Yes, Chuck's right about Such Sweet Thunder. It really needs correcting. The last time it came out on CD in the U.S. Phil Schaap screwed up and used an alternate take of "Up and Down, Up and Down". His error cost us the original wonderful ending with Clark Terry's muted trumpet voicing Shakespeare's immortal line, "What fools these mortals be". Now, even the European bootleggers use Schaap's incorrect version when they rip off this album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Don Brown Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) Jazztrain is correct. I have a copy of that French issue. Edited August 8, 2012 by Don Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 The correct (mono) version was also on a compilation cd called "Ralph Ellison: Living With Music", which I suspect is now OOP. I've always thought Sony should at least make it avaialbe as a download considering the the liner notes of the Such Sweet Thunder cd make a big deal about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John L Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 There was an earlier cd reissue (French, I think) of the original album that I've kept since it has the aforementioned Clark Terry "What fools these mortals be" closing. Yes, Chuck's right about Such Sweet Thunder. It really needs correcting. The last time it came out on CD in the U.S. Phil Schaap screwed up and used an alternate take of "Up and Down, Up and Down". His error cost us the original wonderful ending with Clark Terry's muted trumpet voicing Shakespeare's immortal line, "What fools these mortals be". Now, even the European bootleggers use Schaap's incorrect version when they rip off this album. I sold my copy of the album after I bought Schaap's CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete C Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) I sold my copy of the album after I bought Schaap's CD. I'd horsewhip Schaap if I had a horse. Edited August 8, 2012 by Pete C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted August 8, 2012 Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 The correct (mono) version was also on a compilation cd called "Ralph Ellison: Living With Music", which I suspect is now OOP. I've always thought Sony should at least make it avaialbe as a download considering the the liner notes of the Such Sweet Thunder cd make a big deal about it. That's interesting. This is still being offered as a CD-R at Amazon -- and as individual downloads (though with our luck they would have upgraded this track to the Schaap version). I might pick up one of the used ones, though honestly I need to check tonight if I have SST on LP. I suspect I might. I recall there was a similar issue with one of the tracks on Indigoes being different between the CD (at least the original release) and LP. Given that I have this material on CD or LP (and in the case of Indigoes -- and perhaps SST -- both CD and LP), I just can't see going for this set, even if there is decent remastering. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
king ubu Posted August 8, 2012 Author Report Share Posted August 8, 2012 I sold my copy of the album after I bought Schaap's CD. I'd horsewhip Schaap if I had a horse. But a horsewhip is much cheaper than a horse! Didn't know about that screw up - damn! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Found more details re the Ellington set Go to Amazon (US) Box Set Includes: 1. 1951 -- Masterpieces By Ellington 2. 1952 -- Ellington Uptown 3. 1956 -- Blue Rose w/ Rosemary Clooney 4. 1956 -- The Drum Is A Woman 5. 1957 -- Such Sweet Thunder 6. 1957 -- Ellington Indigos 7. 1958 -- Black, Brown And Beige w/ Mahalia Jackson 8. 1958 -- Duke Ellington At The Bal Masque 9. 1958 -- Duke Ellington's Spacemen: The Cosmic Scene there's a pic of the box & individual discs/covers & open booklet -> if you zoom in on the booklet there are details re Ellington Indigos (the "Perfumed Suite" is included as a bonus on this disc) This is looking good!!! Don't think the following four have been previously released on CD - Blue Rose, Drum Is A Woman, Ellington Indigos (with Perfumed Suite), Bal Masque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 I have an official Blue Rose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill B Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Found more details re the Ellington set Go to Amazon (US) Box Set Includes: 1. 1951 -- Masterpieces By Ellington 2. 1952 -- Ellington Uptown 3. 1956 -- Blue Rose w/ Rosemary Clooney 4. 1956 -- The Drum Is A Woman 5. 1957 -- Such Sweet Thunder 6. 1957 -- Ellington Indigos 7. 1958 -- Black, Brown And Beige w/ Mahalia Jackson 8. 1958 -- Duke Ellington At The Bal Masque 9. 1958 -- Duke Ellington's Spacemen: The Cosmic Scene there's a pic of the box & individual discs/covers & open booklet -> if you zoom in on the booklet there are details re Ellington Indigos (the "Perfumed Suite" is included as a bonus on this disc) This is looking good!!! Don't think the following four have been previously released on CD - Blue Rose, Drum Is A Woman, Ellington Indigos (with Perfumed Suite), Bal Masque Bal Masque has not been released on CD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ejp626 Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 Bal Masque has not been released on CD. Really? I have seen this: Collectables - Bal Masque Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
romualdo Posted August 17, 2012 Report Share Posted August 17, 2012 OK, down to two now (Drum & Indigos) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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