jlhoots Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 Belden's Turandot was great. Many years ago a friend of mine obtained the CD for me when she was in Japan. Back to Zappa. Sorry for the digression. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 3 hours ago, bertrand said: I am still trying to understand this concept of use of name. Frank Zappa was a composer, he would be the first to tell you that. So a concert stating that the works of Frank Zappa, composer will be performed should be fine as long as ASCAP/BMI fees are paid. What am I missing? If the family will keep thinking of him as a 'brand' rather than a composer, then he can never be included in the pantheon of composers, something we know he wished for. Now there was that Puccini estate vs. Bob Belden - was the issue there that they did not like the arrangements? What legal ground did they have to justify the album being pulled? I believe (and I could certainly be wrong) that if you want to advertise a concert of Richard Rogers music you need his estate's permission. Even if your name is Fred Rogers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
duaneiac Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 1 hour ago, medjuck said: I believe (and I could certainly be wrong) that if you want to advertise a concert of Richard Rogers music you need his estate's permission. Even if your name is Fred Rogers. Richard Rogers? Wasn't he part of the songwriting team Rogers & Heart? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ted O'Reilly Posted June 29, 2016 Report Share Posted June 29, 2016 2 hours ago, duaneiac said: Richard Rogers? Wasn't he part of the songwriting team Rogers & Heart? I think you may be confusing Rodgers and Hart with (Roy) Rogers and (William S.) Hart. No problems, as them guys was Straight Shooters! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 8 hours ago, bertrand said: I am still trying to understand this concept of use of name. Frank Zappa was a composer, he would be the first to tell you that. So a concert stating that the works of Frank Zappa, composer will be performed should be fine as long as ASCAP/BMI fees are paid. What am I missing? If the family will keep thinking of him as a 'brand' rather than a composer, then he can never be included in the pantheon of composers, something we know he wished for. Now there was that Puccini estate vs. Bob Belden - was the issue there that they did not like the arrangements? What legal ground did they have to justify the album being pulled? I believe (and I could certainly be wrong) that if you want to advertise a concert of Richard Rogers music you need his estate's permission. Even if your name is Fred Rogers. Or especially if it's Roy Rogers. 4 hours ago, Ted O'Reilly said: I think you may be confusing Rodgers and Hart with (Roy) Rogers and (William S.) Hart. No problems, as them guys was Straight Shooters! Well I expect it's equally true for Roy Rogers. Maybe that's why we see so few Sons of The Pioneers cover bands. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neal Pomea Posted June 30, 2016 Report Share Posted June 30, 2016 My area used to have a rockabilly/swing band named Grandsons of the Pioneers til they were sued for trademark infringement. They changed their name to The Grandsons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted August 10, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 Zappa Family Trust announces auction of Frank Zappa gear and memorabilia — and Dweezil and Moon aren't happy about it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 In an interview in the documentary Eat That Question he seemed to infer that he was deemed more interesting than his music. He said, more or less, 'I'm famous, but no one seems to know what for'... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 That's a very good doc, BTW. A must-see for any Zappa fan! (or even if you're not) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 1 hour ago, BFrank said: That's a very good doc, BTW. A must-see for any Zappa fan! (or even if you're not) I really enjoyed it, so too did my non-Zappa-fan wife. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted August 10, 2016 Report Share Posted August 10, 2016 5 hours ago, BFrank said: That's a very good doc, BTW. A must-see for any Zappa fan! (or even if you're not) I heard there's a possibly better one coming out shortly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BFrank Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 9 hours ago, fasstrack said: I heard there's a possibly better one coming out shortly... I know there's one that's being crowd-funded, but I think it's more of a traditional doc about FZ. What's great about Eat That Question is that it's almost exclusively excerpts of interviews he did over his lifetime. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted August 11, 2016 Author Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Frank and Gail Zappa Auction Catalog Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 Who gets the UMRK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 4 hours ago, Scott Dolan said: Who gets the UMRK? ? What's a UMRK? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 1 hour ago, fasstrack said: ? What's a UMRK? Utility Muffin Research Kitchen, iirc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fasstrack Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 5 hours ago, Rooster_Ties said: Utility Muffin Research Kitchen, iirc. I assume that is one of Mr. Zappa's creations? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 The ZFT is selling the house and the studio, too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted August 11, 2016 Report Share Posted August 11, 2016 UMRK was Zappa's name for his studio. It almost breaks my heart to see that this unique assemblage will be taken apart; it certainly would have broken the heart of my best friend who died last summer ..... he had an almost complete Zappa CD collection, which was probably dumped for the most part when his flat had to be cleared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
six string Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 From what I understand, the studio and musical instruments are being handled by a different company. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted August 12, 2016 Report Share Posted August 12, 2016 19 hours ago, mikeweil said: UMRK was Zappa's name for his studio. It almost breaks my heart to see that this unique assemblage will be taken apart; it certainly would have broken the heart of my best friend who died last summer ..... he had an almost complete Zappa CD collection, which was probably dumped for the most part when his flat had to be cleared. There's always the chance someone will buy the place and keep everything intact. I always thought the kids would do something with it, but they can't seem to get along with each other these days. It would be sad to see it destroyed, but we got a lot of outstanding music from it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted September 3, 2016 Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Not sure what's going on in Zappa-land, but the Estate is putting out a lot of new releases: "Little Dots" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted September 3, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 3, 2016 Ahmet trying to generate cash.... I heard 1/2 of Crux today...outtakes and rough mixes. Curious about Meat Light. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted September 4, 2016 Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Any good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted September 4, 2016 Author Report Share Posted September 4, 2016 Crux of the Biscuit is out takes from Apostrophe, interesting enough...probably worth another few listens. There's more of the Jack Bruce jam. Frank Zappa for President is synclavier music and remixes tied together with a political theme. I love that synclavier noodling. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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