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Greatest Jazz Albums of All Time - Ranker

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On 8/6/2016 at 9:22 PM, jlhoots said:

Earlier you said it's all subjective. That's why I find lists like this a waste of time. Is the list supposed to convince someone about what is "great"??

It's just for fun. Something to pass the time. Sorry you felt it was a waste of your time. 

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On 7/25/2016 at 2:15 PM, CJ Shearn said:

Good list:  just some of my personal favorites, worth the add I think.  Mostly post 60's and into the jazz rock, jazz funk, avant garde and mainstream areas.

Ray Brown Trio: Bam! Bam! Bam! (Concord Jazz, 1988)

 

I'm not a huge fan of most of the post-60s jazz rock/funk/fusion/avant garde stuff, but I did like the Ray Brown album. I also discovered Soular Energy and really enjoyed that one. Any other Ray Brown stuff that you would recommend?

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On 6 August 2016 at 7:27 PM, Steve Reynolds said:

[...] the greatest of them all, Dahabenzapple [...]

 

So great.

 

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On 8/21/2016 at 9:36 AM, joshuakennedy said:

I'm not a huge fan of most of the post-60s jazz rock/funk/fusion/avant garde stuff, but I did like the Ray Brown album. I also discovered Soular Energy and really enjoyed that one. Any other Ray Brown stuff that you would recommend?

I really love the Milt Jackson/Ray Brown: "Montreux '77" disc on Pablo/OJC. There's so much good music in that post 60's area, maybe down the line you'll enjoy more of it. I used to be a hard bop snob when I was a kid into my teenage years then getting into Pat Metheny's mussic changed all that, it opened me to ECM, the avant garde, everything

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22 hours ago, CJ Shearn said:

I really love the Milt Jackson/Ray Brown: "Montreux '77" disc on Pablo/OJC. There's so much good music in that post 60's area, maybe down the line you'll enjoy more of it. I used to be a hard bop snob when I was a kid into my teenage years then getting into Pat Metheny's mussic changed all that, it opened me to ECM, the avant garde, everything

Thanks. I'll check that one out. 

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Subjective for sure, and I'm personally more about the great jazz artists.  The greatest ones often record one fine album after another.

The list indicates that most selections come from 1955-1970.  That makes sense to my ears.  So many of the all-time great (as innovators, players, band leaders, etc.) were at their peaks in these years.  To be sure, you need to know the earlier figures like Louis, Lester, Hawk, Duke, etc. 

Has there been great jazz music since 1970?  Sure, a great deal.  But among the absolutely greatest?  That's a hard argument to make.  There are central figures in jazz music that people will generally agree upon.  You can't diminish Monk, Miles, Duke, Trane--no more than you can diminish Bach, Mozart, and Schubert in Classical.

 

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6 minutes ago, Milestones said:

Subjective for sure, and I'm personally more about the great jazz artists.  The greatest ones often record one fine album after another.

The list indicates that most selections come from 1955-1970.  That makes sense to my ears.  So many of the all-time great (as innovators, players, band leaders, etc.) were at their peaks in these years.  To be sure, you need to know the earlier figures like Louis, Lester, Hawk, Duke, etc. 

Has there been great jazz music since 1970?  Sure, a great deal.  But among the absolutely greatest?  That's a hard argument to make.  There are central figures in jazz music that people will generally agree upon.  You can't diminish Monk, Miles, Duke, Trane--no more than you can diminish Bach, Mozart, and Schubert in Classical.

 

LPs didn't exist for the first 31 years of recorded jazz; a lot of the greatest recordings by Louis Armstrong, Lester Young, Coleman Hawkins and Duke Ellington were not made in the "album" format and any list like this would eliminate them.

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Just now, Guy Berger said:

LPs didn't exist for the first 31 years of recorded jazz; a lot of the greatest recordings by Louis Armstrong, Lester Young, Coleman Hawkins and Duke Ellington were not made in the "album" format and any list like this would eliminate them.

Yeah, that's true. It was really difficult to find actual albums of a lot of those early artists besides "greatest hits" stuff. I did try to include the pioneers though.

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A "compilation" album is still an album in my book.  That's how I first heard Louis, Duke, Bird, Lester, etc.   

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1 minute ago, Milestones said:

A "compilation" album is still an album in my book.  That's how I first heard Louis, Duke, Bird, Lester, etc.   

True. I did include a few. It's just tough to decide which ones when so many of them have some of the same songs overlapping. 

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4 hours ago, Milestones said:

A "compilation" album is still an album in my book.  That's how I first heard Louis, Duke, Bird, Lester, etc.   

Yes, but in my experience they nevertheless tend to get underrepresented in this context for a variety of reasons

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I think the list is not so bad. In general I hate rating but here I saw really some albums that might be representative for our music.
About compilations, that Bird compilation is quite ok, since during that time the LP format was not invented. And Savoy-Dial Master Takes is the most durable Bird .

And of course the Blue Note albums. I think there couldn´t be a "best" list without Blue Trane, Cool Struttin, Sidewinder, Song for my Father, etc....,

As for the bass I was quite astonished to see "Bass on Top" in the list. It took me years to get that rare album, but more than 1 or 2 listenings I didnt give it, though its fantastic bass, but not as exiting as "Whims of Chambers". Same with Griffin, I wouldn´t have chosen his first BN album , but the second "Blowin Session".

  But as I said, that list is quite representative, good work

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10 hours ago, Gheorghe said:

I think the list is not so bad. In general I hate rating but here I saw really some albums that might be representative for our music.
About compilations, that Bird compilation is quite ok, since during that time the LP format was not invented. And Savoy-Dial Master Takes is the most durable Bird .

And of course the Blue Note albums. I think there couldn´t be a "best" list without Blue Trane, Cool Struttin, Sidewinder, Song for my Father, etc....,

As for the bass I was quite astonished to see "Bass on Top" in the list. It took me years to get that rare album, but more than 1 or 2 listenings I didnt give it, though its fantastic bass, but not as exiting as "Whims of Chambers". Same with Griffin, I wouldn´t have chosen his first BN album , but the second "Blowin Session".

  But as I said, that list is quite representative, good work

Thank you. Part of the input for the list was scouring AllMusic ratings. Bass on Top had more ratings and slightly higher ratings than Whims of Chambers. There were three Johnny Griffin albums on the list (Introducing..., A Blowin' Session, and The Little Giant). I'm not sure which album you're referencing with the second Blowin' Session. 

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56 minutes ago, joshuakennedy said:

Thank you. Part of the input for the list was scouring AllMusic ratings. Bass on Top had more ratings and slightly higher ratings than Whims of Chambers. There were three Johnny Griffin albums on the list (Introducing..., A Blowin' Session, and The Little Giant). I'm not sure which album you're referencing with the second Blowin' Session. 

He's just referencing that A Blowin Session was Griff's second BN album.

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Just now, CJ Shearn said:

He's just referencing that A Blowin Session was Griff's second BN album.

Oh, gotcha. 

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16 hours ago, Gheorghe said:

I think the list is not so bad. In general I hate rating but here I saw really some albums that might be representative for our music.
About compilations, that Bird compilation is quite ok, since during that time the LP format was not invented. And Savoy-Dial Master Takes is the most durable Bird .

And of course the Blue Note albums. I think there couldn´t be a "best" list without Blue Trane, Cool Struttin, Sidewinder, Song for my Father, etc....,

As for the bass I was quite astonished to see "Bass on Top" in the list. It took me years to get that rare album, but more than 1 or 2 listenings I didnt give it, though its fantastic bass, but not as exiting as "Whims of Chambers". Same with Griffin, I wouldn´t have chosen his first BN album , but the second "Blowin Session".

  But as I said, that list is quite representative, good work

Generally, I agree with Georghe.  You could do worse than this list and for an incipient fan, it’s a good guide to what to listen to. I thought Leapin and Loping and Cornbread were unusual additions, not that they’re fine albums.  I would have thought the list included a Jimmy Smith album or some of Bird’s Verve recordings. 

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28 minutes ago, Brad said:

Generally, I agree with Georghe.  You could do worse than this list and for an incipient fan, it’s a good guide to what to listen to. I thought Leapin and Loping and Cornbread were unusual additions, not that they’re fine albums.  I would have thought the list included a Jimmy Smith album or some of Bird’s Verve recordings. 

There are 3 Jimmy Smith albums on there (Midnight Special, Back at the Chicken Shack, Dynamic Duo w/ Wes Montgomery). Also a couple Charlie Parker Verve albums (S/T and Complete Verve Recordings). You gotta dig through the whole list.

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Ignore this stuff and make your own lists. Then ask yourself why stuff other folks love isn't on your list. Sample, study and grow.

 

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2 hours ago, joshuakennedy said:

There are 3 Jimmy Smith albums on there (Midnight Special, Back at the Chicken Shack, Dynamic Duo w/ Wes Montgomery). Also a couple Charlie Parker Verve albums (S/T and Complete Verve Recordings). You gotta dig through the whole list.

I just looked over the top 100 list twice and didn’t see those mentioned. 

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15 hours ago, Brad said:

I just looked over the top 100 list twice and didn’t see those mentioned. 

They are not in the top 100. They are further down. There are more than 600 albums on the list.

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I only looked at the top 100. I just looked at the next 100. I find it even stranger that Bird’s Verve recordings are not in that group, unless I missed it. 

At any rate, I agree with Chuck. Make your own list, although the list is a useful guide. 

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2 hours ago, Brad said:

I only looked at the top 100. I just looked at the next 100. I find it even stranger that Bird’s Verve recordings are not in that group, unless I missed it. 

At any rate, I agree with Chuck. Make your own list, although the list is a useful guide. 

The albums are in order based on user votes. So until people vote for Jimmy Smith, Charlie Parker, etc., they will be lower on the list. There should be a search option on there to search for certain artists if you don't want to scroll through the whole list.

And I did make this list. 

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On 8/25/2016 at 6:59 PM, CJ Shearn said:

I really love the Milt Jackson/Ray Brown: "Montreux '77" disc on Pablo/OJC. 

Added that one to the list. 

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