JSngry Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 LaFaro sounds damn near Mingusian Or Ray Browny. Plus Elvin, always. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 (edited) i have this as a Savoy cd. . . and I thought it had Tucker on bass and Harewood on drums with Ervin, Phipps and Howell. . . . Edited July 29, 2016 by jazzbo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 That track is from Herb Geller's LP "Gipsy" on Atco, recorded before her Savoy LP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jazzbo Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Ok, thanks. I don't often listen to things on youtube, I dislike it, so didn't hear the track. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 29, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 Yeah, YouTube poster factually erratic, Elvis dead-on right. It's a nifty record, not a "great " one, more like a funner than usual day at the office because Thad and Hank brought their kid brother to work again, and you know how that kid freshens the air everywhere he goes. And LaFaro, never really "loved" him, but this is a guy who chose his way with no flaming malice towards that which which brung him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted July 29, 2016 Report Share Posted July 29, 2016 3 hours ago, JSngry said: . Plus Elvin, always. One of the great Robert Christgau album reviews (though, from what I remember, I can't stand the album itself): The Insect Trust: Hoboken Saturday Night [Atco, 1970]Thomas Pynchon, Louis "Moondog" Hardin, and an unidentified child (who else would say "busketty" for "spaghetti"?) are among the guest composers, Elvin Jones and an unidentified child among the guest musicians. Former president James Garfield makes a cameo appearance. Vocalist Nancy Jeffries applies her tobacco voice to a feminist lyric called "Trip on Me" that I recommend to Janis Joplin. The blues scholars in the group have been listening to a lot of Arabic and Eastern European music lately, but this doesn't stop Elvin Jones from sounding just like Elvin Jones. In short, these passionate humanists also sound friendly and have come up with a charming, joyous, irrepressibly experimental record. And every experiment works. A Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 I like that Insect Trust record a lot. As for Christgau's review, I always found his writing more clever and smarmy than anything else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 I like the Insect Trust record very much; even bought the Collectors' Choice CD reissue. It's much better than their first album on Capitol. I actually saw them open for The Mothers and Seatrain at the Fillmore East. Don't remember the drummer that night, but am sure it wasn't Elvin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 How many more Atco records was Elvin ever on? And please don't tell me he was on some Nino Temple & April Stevenson record. Just wondering...jazz on Atco, beboppy jazz, Who else besides Betty Carter & this? And the BC side was not hardcore. So other than a White Guy Plays Broadway Jazz thene, how did this get made for Atco? With Elvin LaFaro? And on some cuts, a piano=less quartet? And Barbara Long?What the hell made all THAT happen? To be honest, I had never heard of this Geller record until two weeks ago, and then totally by accident. Georgie Poodles has put it out on CD, so...it's available. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 magining Elvin with Basie Jaws and LMFAO with happy. Jeeeeeesus, do that mashup in your head, holy shit! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) Yeah, the Ertegun's Jazz stuff was on Atlantic (and, briefly, Embryo), not Atco. Atco was for Coaster's records (And then Vanilla Fudge albums). Edited July 30, 2016 by felser Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 30, 2016 Author Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 And Bobby Darrin. And Nino/April. And Bee-Gees first hits. And a Beatles 45. And a 45 of "Substitute". Probably an accountant's wet nightmare, I'll bet. You get an old Atco inner sleeve and look at the shit that's on it, its almost like, if we put all of this out on Atlantic, we could never again sell blackmusicrecords with ANY credibilitywhatsoever. Maintain cred, get some hits, have massive writeoffs (whiteoffs!), yeah, Atco. All that and Elvin LaFaro too. God do i love America! Seriously. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlhoots Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 3 hours ago, paul secor said: I like that Insect Trust record a lot. As for Christgau's review, I always found his writing more clever and smarmy than anything else. I like it too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GA Russell Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Wasn't some Sonny and Cher on Atco? Like maybe the one where she is listed as "Cleo?" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 (edited) 7 hours ago, felser said: One of the great Robert Christgau album reviews (though, from what I remember, I can't stand the album itself): The Insect Trust: Hoboken Saturday Night [Atco, 1970]Thomas Pynchon, Louis "Moondog" Hardin, and an unidentified child (who else would say "busketty" for "spaghetti"?) are among the guest composers, Elvin Jones and an unidentified child among the guest musicians. Former president James Garfield makes a cameo appearance. Vocalist Nancy Jeffries applies her tobacco voice to a feminist lyric called "Trip on Me" that I recommend to Janis Joplin. The blues scholars in the group have been listening to a lot of Arabic and Eastern European music lately, but this doesn't stop Elvin Jones from sounding just like Elvin Jones. In short, these passionate humanists also sound friendly and have come up with a charming, joyous, irrepressibly experimental record. And every experiment works. A Smart review .... Edited July 30, 2016 by soulpope Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 Atco was a label set up for Herb Abramson, one of the founders of Atlantic, who was in the army from 1953 to 1955. When he returned, he was given the reins at Atco, but his tastes were in touch with an older, more hard core r&b and blues style of music. Abramson signed Bobby Darin to the label, but didn't have any success producing him, probably because he wasn't in touch with pop tastes. He ended up selling his interest in Atco to his ex-wife, became an independent producer. and opened a recording studio. In the 60's, he produced Tommy Tucker's hit "High Heeled Sneakers", and later produced a good album by Louisiana Red that, interestingly, was released on Atco. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted July 30, 2016 Report Share Posted July 30, 2016 10 hours ago, GA Russell said: Wasn't some Sonny and Cher on Atco? Like maybe the one where she is listed as "Cleo?" "I Got You Babe" and the rest of their good 60's work was on Atco. The Caeser and Cleo singles were on Vault and Reprise. The excellent 60's Cher solo stuff was on Imperial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted July 31, 2016 Report Share Posted July 31, 2016 On 30.7.2016 at 3:45 AM, JSngry said: Just wondering...jazz on Atco, beboppy jazz, Who else besides Betty Carter & this? And the BC side was not hardcore. The only jazz LP on Atco I can find besides Carter and Geller are two by Sir Roland Hanna. And, several years later, Sonny Sharrock's Paradise ... go figure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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