danasgoodstuff Posted March 7, 2017 Report Share Posted March 7, 2017 http://www.rollingstone.com/music/features/john-coltranes-free-jazz-classic-interstellar-space-at-50-w466815 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HutchFan Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Good article. Thank you for sharing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CJ Shearn Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Really nice article. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optatio Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Agreed - inspired to hear again: JOHN COLTRANE: INTERSTELLAR SPACE (+2)*. IMPULSE/MCA WMC5-118 [1990] * The additional tracks are 'Jupiter (Variation)' and 'Leo'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) Not mine. It's one of the only Coltrane albums I still don't "get". My favorite would either be First Meditations or Sun Ship. Edited March 8, 2017 by Scott Dolan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I don't know if it's my "favorite", that still might be Side 1 of Coltrane Plays The Blues...but it's the one I listen to most frequently for information. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 That and Coltrane Jazz were his two best Atlantics, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brownie Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 CRESCENT is the one! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StarThrower Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I've never listened to Interstellar Space. I like Crescent, the s/t Impulse and Prestige albums, and Coltrane's Sound. Not a big fan of his free playing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 On some days it's my favorite. In my top 5 for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 (edited) I'll gladly cast a third vote for Crescent! His best album from 1964... Yeah, I said it. Also, Stellar Regions > Interstellar Space Edited March 8, 2017 by Scott Dolan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 It's interesting, after listening to most of the catalog on a semi-regular basis for 35 years ... well beyond "need to give this one another listen because it's supposed to be a classic" So what do I really listen to, what do I pull when I just want to hear some Trane ... Plays The Blues Coltrane's Sound Crescent sometimes My Favorite Things Despite how it looks, not really an "Atlantic" guy per se and have no issues whatsoever with the free stuff. All of the above just always sounds good, fresh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I couldn't choose one favorite. When I saw the thread title, I thought it was going to be another lovefest for A Love Supreme. Glad that it was about Interstellar Space. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
soulpope Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Dear to my heart .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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xybert Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Interstellar Space is awesome, had a big impact on me when i first heard it. Said it before but my favourite is My Favorite Things. Just love that one so much. It makes me feel better, whatever the situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 I can tell you what my favorite three bars of Coltrane are, the intro to this solo (atarts @ 2:15) But for sheer volume of information, I still go with Interstellar Space. It's not "free" playing, not really, it's cell-based developmental improvisation, overwhelmingly harmonic in its foundations. Nothing to do with "playing changes", but harmony goes far beyond that. I'll say -and with full caveats of imo - that Interstellar Space is the apex of harmony in improvisation. Nowhere to go with it after this except to the "higher vibrational planes" (or whatever he called it) of ayler and beyond, and hell, song form done, cellular structures on their way to being done, the random/collage/etc. paradigms of various allegoric and electronic musics (popular, vernacular, and "formal") weren't "rebellions" as much as they were logical evolutionary steps. Regressive reactionaryism is inevitable, but so it's its eventual futility, until as it becomes time to do it all over again. Hell, Coltrane himself was on the way by 1960...it took him another 5-6 years to catch up with himself! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
danasgoodstuff Posted March 8, 2017 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Not necessarily my fav either, just thought it was interesting the way the article talked about Interstellar Space as if it was just a given that everyone loved it. FWIW It was the one that made me get late period 'Trane (to the limited extent that I would claim to do so). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Nessa Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 Too many Trane eras to choose from. Interstellar Space is a wonderful capstone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 8, 2017 Report Share Posted March 8, 2017 38 minutes ago, danasgoodstuff said: . FWIW It was the one that made me get late period 'Trane (to the limited extent that I would claim to do so). The way I've always heard it was that it was the "mountaintop" of his "free" playing, the one moment where all the "experimenting" came into a really solid, coherent, vision of clarity. Don't know what triggered it, and you know, it's a record, so maybe a few days before or after it was even more focused, but on this day, anyway, there it was. And not to dis Alice in any way (too many cheap and invalid shots taken at her, imo), but the simple duo of Trane & Rashid really flowed without disturbance or distraction...we always thing about "piano-less groups" in terms of trios or larger, but hey, here's one too. Same thing when Trane & Elvin did their duet moments. All of which just to say that if something like Om or Kulu Se Mama has people scratching their giggling heads thinking that Trane went nuts off into some kind of Expressionistic Acid Trip, well, to the extent that there's any truth in that, here's proof that there was some goal, some end in sight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 I just can't get past Ali's playing during that era. Yeah, I get the whole "multi-directional" thing. A rhythmic carpet, fine. My ears were too tuned into Elvin. I did dig what he did later in his career, particularly The Rings Of Saturn. But his work in '66 and '67? I'll pass. As for Alice, while she was a step down from McCoy, I never thought she was bad in any way. It's really too bad that The Olatunji Concert is so horrid sonically, because she was really on fire there! I also thought she played some badass stuff on the VV date. That's the best post-quartet date, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Dude, I've heard some really vicious dissing of Alice from players who still get upset by post-Quartet Trane, up to and including that she really didn't know what she was doing and the variant of that that she "played wrong changes"...it's ridiculous, really. No, she was not McCoy, and no, she was not as "mathematical" in her approach to harmony as McCoy was, but she certainly knew what she was doing, and it's hard for me to believe that Trane would let her play "wrong changes" in his band for as long as she was there. I mean, c'mon, this was not John & Yoko, not even. And I don't hate Yoko, far from it, but this was not just "concept", if you know what I mean, this was science, fact-based music, no "fantasy" or such involved. The whole harp thing, that was for real, they were both hearing that. Blissed out on acid, god, math, whatever, yeah, some people reduce it to that because that's all that fits inside their heads, but these were not frivolous people. Not frivolous. I'm not about to say that Alice was a "great artist of all time" or anything like that, but c'mon... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 You're preaching to the choir, brother. It's all about the John/Yoko "where everything went wrong" blame game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stryker Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) For the record, in a one artist-one record challenge I'm taking " Transition." And for dessert: the five-minute tag from the 1962 "Bye Bye Blackbird" Edited March 9, 2017 by Mark Stryker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mark Stryker said: For the record, in a one artist-one record challenge I'm taking " Transition." And for dessert: the the five-minute tag from the 1962 "Bye Bye Blackbird" Well if we are getting dessert, I'll take the three-minute tag at the end of I Want To Talk About You from Live at Birdland. Edited March 9, 2017 by Eric Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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