Scott Dolan Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 Excellent call, Eric! Or maybe even Your Lady in its entirety from that album. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
felser Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 16 hours ago, Mark Stryker said: For the record, in a one artist-one record challenge I'm taking " Transition." And for dessert: the five-minute tag from the 1962 "Bye Bye Blackbird" I am, too. With a side helping of Newport '63 Favorite Things. Honorable mention to Crescent and to Live at Birdland, which each have their places in my heart. And A Love Supreme is the album that jumpstarted me into jazz, so it will always have great meaning to me beyond its obvious musical merits. I like Alice Coltrane fine. No, she's not McCoy Tyner. Who is? Ali's work with Trane is largely lost on me. But Live in Seatlle shows that Tyner and Jones couldn't go on in the direction Trane was headed, and I am thankful for their subsequent leader work over the next decade, some of my favorite music ever. Tyner's "Sahara" means as much to me as almost any Trane album. Edited March 9, 2017 by felser Newport '63, not '64 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, felser said: I am, too. With a side helping of Newport '63 Favorite Things. That's interesting. I'm not a huge fan of Favorite Things, just because it was played to death over the course of his catalog. BUT, the version I really, REALLY like is the one from New Thing At Newport. It's the sound of four monstrously creative forces in completely uncontrolled, yet perfectly contained, chaos. The sound of a group in meltdown mode from having flown too close to the sun, and living to tell the tale. I'll have to check out the Newport '63 version again due to your recommendation, as it seems like you and I have a similar ear for Trane. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 As more than a snap shot of the so-called "sheets of sound" period, I've always been very fond of Wilbur Harden's "Mainstream 1958," with Trane, Tommy Flanagan, Doug Watkins, and Louis Hayes. That rhythm section is just perfect for what Trane was doing at the time. And Harden is no slouch. Trane's solo on this track begins at 3:27 (what an entrance!) and never ceases to thrill me. The head rattle-ing swing he generates! And not just through timing and accents -- the intervals themselves are like precise hammer blows. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stryker Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 1 hour ago, Larry Kart said: As more than a snap shot of the so-called "sheets of sound" period, I've always been very fond of Wilbur Harden's "Mainstream 1958," with Trane, Tommy Flanagan, Doug Watkins, and Louis Hayes. That rhythm section is just perfect for what Trane was doing at the time. And Harden is no slouch. Trane's solo on this track begins at 3:27 (what an entrance!) and never ceases to thrill me. The head rattle-ing swing he generates! And not just through timing and accents -- the intervals themselves are like precise hammer blows. Coda: All-Detroit rhythm section ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 56 minutes ago, Mark Stryker said: Coda: All-Detroit rhythm section ... I love Doug Watkins. He must have been a fan of Oscar Pettiford -- I hear a good deal of kinship. BTW, what a shame that expatriation and then early death deprived us of all the records Pettiford could have made in the US in the '60s and beyond. For what he could do in a hard bop context, check out the Red Rodney album on Signal from 1957, with Ira Sullivan on tenor and the drumming split between Elvin Jones and Philly Joe Jones. It's available here, coupled with another Rodney date from that time with Billy Root:https://www.amazon.com/Rodney-Quintets-1955-1959-Borrowed-Time/dp/B002EPAOKU/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1489097126&sr=1-1&keywords=red+rodney+1957 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted March 9, 2017 Report Share Posted March 9, 2017 (edited) 4 hours ago, felser said: With a side helping of Newport '63 Favorite Things. Anybody else think that version of MFT is mildly overrated? By which I mean that it's not obviously better to my ears than the 6 other versions Coltrane recorded in 1963. It merely had a better publicist Edited March 9, 2017 by Guy Berger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark Stryker Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 Agree with Larry above about O.P. Too often overlooked because of the reasons cited but he was a profound musician. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stonewall15 Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 My favorite is "Trane's First Ride" on the obscure Oberon label. AFAIK the LP has never been reissued on CD. Done at Birdland with Dizzy Gillespie and Milt Jackson in early 1951. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted March 10, 2017 Report Share Posted March 10, 2017 16 hours ago, Guy Berger said: Anybody else think that version of MFT is mildly overrated? By which I mean that it's not obviously better to my ears than the 6 other versions Coltrane recorded in 1963. It merely had a better publicist I'm not sure if it's overrated, but the fact there are 6 different recorded versions from that year make me cringe... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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