ghost of miles Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 ESPN lays off numerous reporters and on-air personalities Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 RIP ESPN jobs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xybert Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 1 hour ago, JSngry said: RIP ESPN jobs. Lol. This should be the thread title. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 The redundancy off too many fuckin' many channels caught up to them long ago and they're just now getting it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Here's hoping that Cotton McKnight & Pepper Brooks escaped the axe over at The Ocho. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 See there. I mean that shit goes back like 12-13 years. The dummies at ESPN didn't get the joke. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Joke? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
catesta Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 Exactly Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Gould Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 2 hours ago, catesta said: The redundancy off too many fuckin' many channels caught up to them long ago and they're just now getting it. I think its the 10 to 15,000 cable subscribers they have been losing every month for I am not sure how many years. Wish I had a link to the article where I got that statistic from but basically its becoming an unsustainable business model - all the money they are paying out for rights fees, and the revenue can't sustain it any longer. First they had massive layoffs of production staff, now its high-priced on-air "talent". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paul secor Posted April 26, 2017 Report Share Posted April 26, 2017 For years, I've wished that they would get rid of most of their "genius" commentators who don't know any more than you or I or the average person on the street. Looks as if they just cut some less visible folks loose. Too bad they didn't go after the bigger names. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uli Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 i am not wishing for anybody to lose their jobs but there's got be a limit on how many people can make a living by talking about what other people do to make a living. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 4 hours ago, uli said: i am not wishing for anybody to lose their jobs but there's got be a limit on how many people can make a living by talking about what other people do to make a living. I actually think there's a lot of demand for this - just not necessarily with ESPN. (FWIW, while I suspect this is a major hardship for those who lost these jobs, the numbers here are relatively small, not massive.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 11 hours ago, Dan Gould said: I think its the 10 to 15,000 cable subscribers they have been losing every month for I am not sure how many years. Wish I had a link to the article where I got that statistic from but basically its becoming an unsustainable business model - all the money they are paying out for rights fees, and the revenue can't sustain it any longer. First they had massive layoffs of production staff, now its high-priced on-air "talent". If it means anything, I can confirm this. Cord-cutters are indeed the primary reason behind this. It has been reported all over the media. I most recently heard Dan Patrick talking about it on his radio show. 3 hours ago, Guy Berger said: I actually think there's a lot of demand for this - just not necessarily with ESPN. (FWIW, while I suspect this is a major hardship for those who lost these jobs, the numbers here are relatively small, not massive.) For a company that just laid off 300 production employees in October, these numbers actually are very significant. When you have a second round of layoffs, that itself is very significant. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjzee Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 I can't say I'm upset. For years, my cable bill has included paying for ESPN channels that I never watch. If your business plan is based on coercion, don't be surprised if your "customers" find ways to leave. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost of miles Posted April 27, 2017 Author Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Seems to me the future (which is already here to a large extent) will be people streaming subscription services on their phones for the sports and teams they prefer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Sports, teams, news, propaganda, truth, sex, lies, videotape...the Age Of The One True Universal Me is upon us. Relish the New Digital Paradigm and The Freedom to Ignore it provides. What could possibly go wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 3 hours ago, ghost of miles said: Seems to me the future (which is already here to a large extent) will be people streaming subscription services on their phones for the sports and teams they prefer. And that's really the driving factor in all of this. Cord-cutting has become FAR easier in recent years with things like Netflix, Apple TV, Roku, etc... Reading the book, Those Guys Have All The Fun, it was amazing to see how far ahead of the curve the founders of ESPN were back then. But the digital revolution has left them flat-footed and directionless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Sports are sooooo analog. OTOH, there are live streaming, hosted, video game competitions. Yeah, not only can you play multi-player action in real time, you can just watch other people do it. And I hear that not only are there audiences, there are growing audiences. Ain't no way ESPN gets a handle on that action. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 hour ago, JSngry said: Sports are sooooo analog. OTOH, there are live streaming, hosted, video game competitions. Yeah, not only can you play multi-player action in real time, you can just watch other people do it. And I hear that not only are there audiences, there are growing audiences. Ain't no way ESPN gets a handle on that action. Actually, they did a couple of years ago. It didn't go over well with their audience. And then there's this: http://www.espn.com/esports/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 Well. good luck to them on that. The kids (ok, "kids") I know who follow this stuff are not looking at/for/towards the ESPN brand for any of that. Then again, it's Disney, Jake. Forget about it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 I just realize how old I truly am when I look at that particular part of their site...and can't figure out where the fuck I am, or what the fuck I'm reading about. But, I can tell you this (courtesy of having a teenage son in the house): kids watching other kids and/or adults playing video games? HUGE! There are hundreds of YouTube stations devoted to just that. Not hundreds of videos. Hundreds of stations, which usually contain hundreds of videos. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rdavenport Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 1 hour ago, Scott Dolan said: I just realize how old I truly am when I look at that particular part of their site...and can't figure out where the fuck I am, or what the fuck I'm reading about. But, I can tell you this (courtesy of having a teenage son in the house): kids watching other kids and/or adults playing video games? HUGE! There are hundreds of YouTube stations devoted to just that. Not hundreds of videos. Hundreds of stations, which usually contain hundreds of videos. Yes, same here. Both my kids watch all that, constantly. I think if I got rid of the TV, my son wouldn't notice for days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 10 hours ago, Scott Dolan said: For a company that just laid off 300 production employees in October, these numbers actually are very significant. When you have a second round of layoffs, that itself is very significant. Of course - but in the grand scheme of the US economy (1.6 million layoffs a month), it's _tiny_. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 58 minutes ago, Guy Berger said: Of course - but in the grand scheme of the US economy (1.6 million layoffs a month), it's _tiny_. Where did that number come from? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted April 27, 2017 Report Share Posted April 27, 2017 55 minutes ago, Scott Dolan said: Where did that number come from? Job Openings & Labor Turnover Survey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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