David Ayers Posted July 9, 2017 Report Share Posted July 9, 2017 When I search for Keith Jarrett on the UK version of the store, I get 38 albums. But there are many more than this, which I can find by searching for the missing title by name. That seems like a problem to me. Any pointers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 To answer the main question: it is as clunky as they come. Pointers? Just keep trying every combination of group/album name you can think of. It's about as user unfriendly as I've ever seen. Apple Music is just as bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted July 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 It's not just me then! It seems bizarre they can't get this right... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marzz Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) Hi David, I had this same problem a while back searching for some (apparently) exclusive Sam Rivers albums. Try this. Bring up any (one) album. Then click the "Keith Jarrett" link under that album title. This should go to a main page with a colour photo of Jarrett (or whatever artist you're searching) and all his albums will appear underneath. But the albums are grouped - ECM albums, Solo Recordings, Recordings with Peacock & DeJohnette and so on. The Aussie store looks like this... To be honest I hardly ever download, but I'm glad Scott Dolan mentioned it was clunky, I thought it was just me too! Edited July 10, 2017 by Marzz to add a pic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted July 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Yes a good tip and I stumbled on that myself - but that view is also not complete, although it looks like it might/should be, yet it is a different list... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Ayers Posted July 10, 2017 Author Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) Further joy. Searching for"keith jarrett" today yielded only 22 albums, some the same as yesterday. Yesterday the same search consistently yielded the same 38. This is just nuts. Edited July 10, 2017 by David Ayers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
psu_13 Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 Apple Music and iTunes search have a few issues that combine together to be annoying: 1. They are too specific. Often if you look for something that is not in the tagged meta-data but which you know is there, nothing comes up. 2. They are not specific enough. Often if you search for search keywords you will get hits for completely irrelevant keywords that are just a letter or two off. This is obviously an attempt to alleviate (1), but it actually just makes the whole thing seem more broken. 3. The engine won't show you everything that's in the catalog, because the catalog is too big. I'm not sure why they do this. Spotify is better about this. The solution is to combine Apple, Spotify, Amazon, YouTube and Google (you can do a search like 'keywords i want site:itunes.apple.com') until you can narrow down to just the thing you need. It's not ideal. That said, I have a bit of sympathy for the poor engineers who have to build this. Music meta-data is not the easiest thing in the world to index and search through, and natural language text search is a harder problem than we realize after being spoiled by what google does. But what google does will not directly help here, necessarily, because it's a much more specific domain with specific expectations. Oh well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 (edited) 13 hours ago, David Ayers said: It's not just me then! It seems bizarre they can't get this right... Agreed. iTunes was never great to begin with, and has gotten slightly worse over the years, IMO. I love Apple's hardware, but their software, for the most part, is just short of abysmal. Unless it's iPhoto. Which is the biggest software tragedy that has ever been visited upon mankind. Edited July 10, 2017 by Scott Dolan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllenLowe Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 I hate the later I tunes. I don't download much, but I used to store a lot of my recording masters on my I Tunes as waves files. Then suddenly they changed it so you could not copy and paste a track from one program to another. Why did they do this? Because techies who re-make these programs have to justify their employment by constantly changing interfaces. Paypal does the same crap, as did Chase Bank recently. And each time they do, it all becomes less user friendly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scott Dolan Posted July 10, 2017 Report Share Posted July 10, 2017 3 hours ago, AllenLowe said: Why did they do this? Because techies who re-make these programs have to justify their employment by constantly changing interfaces. The End Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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