B. Clugston Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 "Legal trouble may be brewing for a Northern California brewery that sells “Brother Thelonious Belgian Style Abbey Ale,” with a label showing jazz pioneer Thelonious Monk in his trademark cap and sunglasses in front of a halo of piano keys...." https://www.sfchronicle.com/bayarea/article/Monk-s-son-wins-right-to-sue-over-Brother-12553201.php Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
clifford_thornton Posted February 7, 2018 Report Share Posted February 7, 2018 I prefer the beer to T.S. Monk, and I don't like the beer all that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeweil Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 (edited) Although I never tasted that beer, I find the ad rather tasteless, and if T.S. Monk ever consented to it, he definitely must have been made drunk from that beer. Edited February 9, 2018 by mikeweil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bertrand Posted February 8, 2018 Report Share Posted February 8, 2018 News to me that TS and the Monk Institute severed their ties in January 2016. No wonder the last competition was in November 2015. There was supposed to be one in October and semifinalists were even chosen, but it was postponed. I used to volunteer for the competition until it moved to LA. I am really out of the loop. Bertrand. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 9, 2018 Report Share Posted February 9, 2018 On 2/7/2018 at 4:21 PM, clifford_thornton said: I prefer the beer to T.S. Monk, and I don't like the beer all that much. Why the animosity? Seems to me that he learned the need to hustle to survive pretty much without choice, and has been doing so well enough all this time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 TS has done several things to earn some animosity. I prefer the beer to TS Monk as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted February 10, 2018 Report Share Posted February 10, 2018 Must be "insider" and/or "regional" stuff, I've never heard anything, and you know how bad news travels fast... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ken Dryden Posted February 11, 2018 Report Share Posted February 11, 2018 It sounds like one of those cases where it is going to depend what was written in the original contract. I'll leave it to the lawyer's as my opinion isn't needed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 If the brewery didn’t have the right to us Monk’s likeness, I fail to see how they can prevail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guy Berger Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 10 hours ago, Brad said: If the brewery didn’t have the right to us Monk’s likeness, I fail to see how they can prevail. I'm curious - once an individual is deceased, what's the lifespan of an estate's ownership of his/her likeness? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Bresnahan Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 The whole problem here is that there was an oral agreement in place. As this article states, oral agreements are very difficult to get out of: https://www.forbes.com/sites/oliverherzfeld/2017/10/19/thelonious-monk-and-the-perils-of-oral-agreements/#5a0b8d21305e Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brad Posted February 12, 2018 Report Share Posted February 12, 2018 6 hours ago, Guy Berger said: I'm curious - once an individual is deceased, what's the lifespan of an estate's ownership of his/her likeness? I looked at this issue a few years ago. Traditionally, those rights died with the person but in recent years a few states have extended those rights to their legal representatives. One that comes to mind is Tennessee because of the Elvis Presley Estate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez Posted February 21, 2018 Report Share Posted February 21, 2018 very interesting, 1st i have heard of his, TS is a good dude and i hope he wins. im actually suprised he ok'd the original deal w/ the beer label. i saw it a few years ago, and thought, oh thats funny. but i know who monk is an have his records, but for a regular person- i would say thats kind of 'characterizing' him in beer form that might not make sense to the lay person Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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