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Which jazz book are you reading right now?

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I read the Dameron book on my Kindle last year - plenty of new insights into the man's life and work.

A few days ago I finished Sheila E. memoir - she tells about many nasty habits in the pop business .....

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On 18/08/2018 at 11:43 PM, mikeweil said:

While seraching for exact dates of the Monterey Jazz Festival I stepped over this and after having a look at its contents, immediately odered a copy from amazon. Magnificent book, Jim Marshall's photos are fantastic! At merely $ 30 it's a steal.

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https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1909526320/ref=s9_acsd_simh_bw_cr_x__a_w?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_s=merchandised-search-3&pf_rd_r=3YBAYXD5DJXFCAJQ4CHW&pf_rd_r=3YBAYXD5DJXFCAJQ4CHW&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_p=fe185ec9-c8f5-44c0-897e-4c0bde93268c&pf_rd_p=fe185ec9-c8f5-44c0-897e-4c0bde93268c&pf_rd_i=283155

I flicked through a copy of that one in a shop recently and it looked fantastic !  So many great books... not enough space..

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I forget what I was looking at on Amazon, but one of the items "also recommended" on that page was this book, which I did not even know existed --

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So Amazon made a sale based on that "recommendation". 

The book arrived this week, but I have not begun reading it yet.  It looks like a kind of breezy memoir.  I glanced through and found one tale he recounts of a time in 1963 when he was playing at the Shalimar in NY as part of Ben Webster's group.  The Shalimar was across from the Hotel Theresa which served as the de facto headquarters for Elijah Muhammad and the Nation of Islam.  One night, Dave Frishberg passed a group of men sitting at a table in the club as they were discussing the 1934 Tigers.  They were stuck on the name of one player and Mr. Frishberg, being the big baseball fan that he is, was able to interrupt and supply that name.  Then he and another gentleman seated at that table went back and forth for several minutes rattling off the names of various players from days gone by.  When he returned to the bandstand, Ben Webster asked Mr. Frishberg if he knew who he was talking to.  He did not and Mr. Webster said, "You ever hear of Malcom X?".  

The book also comes with a code number for online access to 21 Dave Frishberg tunes.  I have to check that out yet too,

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On 8/27/2018 at 9:57 AM, mikeweil said:

I read the Dameron book on my Kindle last year - plenty of new insights into the man's life and work.

A few days ago I finished Sheila E. memoir - she tells about many nasty habits in the pop business .....

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I'm a fan of the music of Alejandro Escovedo.

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1 hour ago, duaneiac said:

 One night, Dave Frishberg passed a group of men sitting at a table in the club as they were discussing the 1934 Tigers.  They were stuck on the name of one player and Mr. Frishberg, being the big baseball fan that he is, was able to interrupt and supply that name.  Then he and another gentleman seated at that table went back and forth for several minutes rattling off the names of various players from days gone by. 

Was this before or after this had been composed?

 

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That incident would have been before he wrote that tune.  Each chapter in the book is titled after one of Mr. Frishberg's songs. and Chapter Nine is named after this tune, which was written in 1969.

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You do 78s but you don't do books? Please advise.

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56 minutes ago, chewy-chew-chew-bean-benitez said:

i dont do books, but if i saw this for $5 i would totally get it- this one is $80 on ebay

 

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That's had a place of honor on my shelves for many years, and I refer to it often.

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Picked this up for a few bucks at a used bookstore a while back . . . 

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5 hours ago, HutchFan said:

Picked this up for a few bucks at a used bookstore a while back . . . 

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The first book on jazz I ever read ! (along with the Rex Harris travesty). Still have my copy.

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On ‎30‎.‎09‎.‎2018 at 3:59 AM, HutchFan said:

Picked this up for a few bucks at a used bookstore a while back . . . 

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Purchased it in the 70´s . Never forgot the interview with Miles, he seems to like Leonard but is difficult and contradictory as ever. Leonard asking those personal questions whether if Miles would help out his familiy , if he has family ties and all that , and Miles first saying "I live for myself" "bull....sh like sittin down at tea..."  and then telling Leonard that if he would need money he would give it to him if he can afford it......very funny......

On ‎27‎.‎08‎.‎2018 at 5:57 PM, mikeweil said:

I read the Dameron book on my Kindle last year - plenty of new insights into the man's life and work.

A few days ago I finished Sheila E. memoir - she tells about many nasty habits in the pop business .....

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There´s two Dameron books , one was published in more recent years, and another one is older and I think it´s a british author. I have both of them

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On 30.9.2018 at 2:51 AM, JSngry said:

You do 78s but you don't do books? Please advise.

Not a rare occurrence in the field of music collecting (not just jazz). Collecting music (in the sense of buying it more thoroughly than an average music consumer would do) - yes. But reading about it, either for discographical reference or background knowledge of the history of the artists etc.? No ... what for? "Reading? What's that? Too academical! Keeps me from LISTENING!" That's the impression I got in a number of cases, strangely enough.

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2 hours ago, Gheorghe said:

Purchased it in the 70´s . Never forgot the interview with Miles, he seems to like Leonard but is difficult and contradictory as ever. Leonard asking those personal questions whether if Miles would help out his familiy , if he has family ties and all that , and Miles first saying "I live for myself" "bull....sh like sittin down at tea..."  and then telling Leonard that if he would need money he would give it to him if he can afford it......very funny......

Yep. Miles was a welter of contradictions for sure.

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Bill Cole: Miles Davis, a musical biography.

Actually this was my first book about Miles. I was a youngster and my only other book about jazz was the german "Jazzbuch".

But this one really gave more informations about the recordings I allready knew, especially the 50´s and 60´s stuff.

Some of it reads funny if I think about it. About his appearance in 1949 at the Paris Festival, Bill Cole writes that Miles was "bored". For sure: Miles doesn´t sound like a bored man on that, and he himself stated that he was fascinated by Paris and fell in love with Juiliette Greco.

And about the now old, then "new" stuff from the early 70´s. Bill Cole dares to say that the stuff is "an insult on the intelect of people" ......

But I always like to read a few passages from it just for historical points.....

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Bill Cole is (was?) an annoyance.

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I have a Michel Ruppli Savoy discography coming, and will dive into that when I receive it.

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On ‎02‎/‎10‎/‎2018 at 1:07 PM, Big Beat Steve said:

But reading about it, either for discographical reference or background knowledge of the history of the artists etc.? No ... what for? "Reading? What's that? Too academical! Keeps me from LISTENING!"

What about the discussion we had about Rock books? Or are you just being provocative?

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2 hours ago, felser said:

I have a Michel Ruppli Savoy discography coming, and will dive into that when I receive it.

Does that contain all the R&B stuff? Some/all of the gospel?

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1 hour ago, Simon Weil said:

What about the discussion we had about Rock books? Or are you just being provocative?

I am not so much actually referring to this forum but to advanced music listeners (who might well be termed collectors) in general - many of them in what is termed "rock" - who just do not seem to be too interested in READING up on their musical preferences in the sense that they (sort of) collect books or mags on their music too. An impression I have gotten in various discussions.
So I am not that surprised (maybe less than JSngry) by Chewy's position.
And yes - I am biased, considering myself a collector of printed matter on my preferred styles of music too..

 

1 hour ago, JSngry said:

Does that contain all the R&B stuff? Some/all of the gospel?

Yes, both R&B and gospel.

The foreword says "All known details on jazz, blues, rhythm and blues and gospel sessions are included ...".
However, it also says (in the 1980 edition): "Savoy files ... are far from complete - this is especially true for early sessions and for 1966-75 sessions. Files covering this last period had yet been found, and listings for these years have been limited to jazz releases and index of gospel albums".

Apart from their entries in the chronological session listings, the gospel series are scattered throughout the book in numerical order.

Edited by Big Beat Steve

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I don't think the files jazz issues from those years (1966-75...and what jazz did they release after Bill Barron's Motivation, which was, what, 71-72? until hooking up with Arista) are going to be found, and really doubt they exist. My understanding is that what few releases there were either spec work done by a producer (e.g. Bill Dixon) or essentially vanity projects produced by the artist with few if any real contractual commitments from the label.

I don't claim that with 100% certainty though.

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The late Michael James' "Ten Modern Jazzmen" is a must read. Not that I agree with everything James says, nor am I in sync with the sometimes presumptuous manner in which says what he says, but it's a book that probably will stimulate your thinking as few books on jazz do -- it certainly has mine.

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1 hour ago, Larry Kart said:

The late Michael James' "Ten Modern Jazzmen" is a must read. Not that I agree with everything James says, nor am I in sync with the sometimes presumptuous manner in which says what he says, but it's a book that probably will stimulate your thinking as few books on jazz do -- it certainly has mine.

I've got the original circa 1960 version (back in the United States).  Has this been re-issued?  It would be nice if it was.

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2 hours ago, BeBop said:

I've got the original circa 1960 version (back in the United States).  Has this been re-issued?  It would be nice if it was.

I've got a used copy of the original. Don't think it's been re-issued.

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Of course I´m a big fan of Fats Navarro.

But I like this book not only because it´s a great biography. It´s a very good style analises and almost everything Fats recorded is well documented. It´s really a great book.

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