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Marsella's CD Buer on Tzadik is also excellent.

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So by now, does everyone here have this CD of Marsella's trio's tribute to Hasaan?

If not, what are you waiting for?  A phenomenal album, in tribute to a phenomenal album -- what's not to love?

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What am I waiting for?  Other than a desire to hear it?

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4 hours ago, JSngry said:

What am I waiting for?  Other than a desire to hear it?

:alien::ph34r:

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Full album is now on YouTube (a single one-hour+ upload). All the individual tracks/tunes are indexed, and if you pop out to YouTube in your browser, you can skip around from track to track, like a CD.

https://youtu.be/Mh425vohP8E

 

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I am still wondering where the tune from the lost session came from. I am starting to question some of the conventional wisdom regarding the Atlantic Fire.

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this here looks like it might be part of the answer:

https://archives.libraries.rutgers.edu/repositories/6/resources/349

" This collection consists of nine audio tape reels. There are six 3 1/4-inch reels and three 7-inch reels. These include Alan Sukoenig's original recordings of live peformances by John Coltrane, Hasaan Ibn Ali, and Elmo Hope. Also included are recorded copies Sukoenig made of unissued Ibn Ali recordings from 1962 and a recorded interview of Thelonious Monk conducted at Pep's Lounge in Philadelphia by Sukoenig and Gerry Barrish in 1960. The Coltrane recordings comprise the saxophonist's famous 1963 performances at The Showboat in Philadelphia, containing the only known recording of Coltrane playing piano. The Ibn Ali recordings include 1964 performances at the University of Pennsylvania; 1965 recordings in New York City; and other unidentified recordings. The Elmo Hope recordings include 1964 performances at the West-Side YMCA Auditorium in New York City. The collection also contains recordings by saxophonist David Shier and Kenny Barron circa 1962. "

 

Alan Sukoenig is also mentioned earlier in this thread as one of the producers of the Ibn Ali box and he's apparently the mastermind behind the Ibn Ali wiki entry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HomageToDonByas

 

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45 minutes ago, Niko said:

this here looks like it might be part of the answer:

https://archives.libraries.rutgers.edu/repositories/6/resources/349

" This collection consists of nine audio tape reels. There are six 3 1/4-inch reels and three 7-inch reels. These include Alan Sukoenig's original recordings of live peformances by John Coltrane, Hasaan Ibn Ali, and Elmo Hope. Also included are recorded copies Sukoenig made of unissued Ibn Ali recordings from 1962 and a recorded interview of Thelonious Monk conducted at Pep's Lounge in Philadelphia by Sukoenig and Gerry Barrish in 1960. The Coltrane recordings comprise the saxophonist's famous 1963 performances at The Showboat in Philadelphia, containing the only known recording of Coltrane playing piano. The Ibn Ali recordings include 1964 performances at the University of Pennsylvania; 1965 recordings in New York City; and other unidentified recordings. The Elmo Hope recordings include 1964 performances at the West-Side YMCA Auditorium in New York City. The collection also contains recordings by saxophonist David Shier and Kenny Barron circa 1962. "

 

Alan Sukoenig is also mentioned earlier in this thread as one of the producers of the Ibn Ali box and he's apparently the mastermind behind the Ibn Ali wiki entry

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User_talk:HomageToDonByas

 

Thnx for sharing ....

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The second Tony Fruscella Atlantic album got out as well

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39 minutes ago, Niko said:

The second Tony Fruscella Atlantic album got out as well

Can't find anything. Do you have a link?

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12 minutes ago, Niko said:

Thanks. I'd seen that one, but was somehow under the impression there'd be another, licensed release. My mistake.

On 4-5-2019 at 8:50 PM, Rooster_Ties said:

So by now, does everyone here have this CD of Marsella's trio's tribute to Hasaan?

If not, what are you waiting for?  A phenomenal album, in tribute to a phenomenal album -- what's not to love?

Just listened to the album on YouTube. Nice, but not quite my taste, and don't like the drums being so forward in the mix.

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Sorry, no licensed release for Fruscella... just music that survived the fire... also, it doesn't feel like it was ever a finished album

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I deleted an erroneous post because I misread the description of the material at Rutgers. The Atlantic session is from 1965, and the description does not in any way suggest there is a copy at Rutgers. I thought it was the 1962 sessions mentioned at Rutgers but then I saw the dates. Sorry about that.

I am still curious about the Atlantic Fire and why some backups exist. Focusing on the Fruscella date: another thread suggested Ira Gitler had a copy, so I could see a scenario where that got to Jordi Pujol somehow. But here is the question this poses to me:

HOW did Gitler get a copy? And what other guys in the know (journalists, producers and other misfits) might have other secret copies of allegedly lost Atlantic sessions? Bob Porter posted elsewhere that he had info and that some information existed but of course he won't share.

 

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Regardless of 1965 vs 1962 being probably different sessions, it's easy to imagine that they have a tune or two in common

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On 9/17/2020 at 5:32 PM, Niko said:

Regardless of 1965 vs 1962 being probably different sessions, it's easy to imagine that they have a tune or two in common

That is definitely a plausible explanation.

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