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Charles Mingus’s Secret Eggnog Recipe Will Knock You on Your Ass


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The quote is thought to be Churchill’s (but may be fictional) and in response to a remark made by Lady Astor or Bessie Braddock (a Socialist MP) that he was drunk, he referred to her as being ugly, not stupid, and that in the morning he would be sober and she would still be ugly.  The quote is referred to in Andrew Roberts’ new book on Churchill, considered by many critics to be the best one volume biography about him. 

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  • 3 years later...

You'll have to tell us if it did knock you on your ass, TTK

It boggles my mind that it's two years since this was posted. And I have been feeling a little melancholy because I just realized that I will be visiting Mom January 8 at her assisted living apartment, and it dawned on me that my older brother would have turned 59 then. And mostly I just thought how much my brother would have gotten a kick out of this article and recipe.

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7 minutes ago, Rooster_Ties said:

Gold star to the Voice author, for using the word “hooch” in print.

You got me curious...is this now considered some kind of arcane slang? My dad used it routinely, and he was born in 1918, so I've never NOT heard the word used to refer to alcohol.

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10 minutes ago, JSngry said:

You got me curious...is this now considered some kind of arcane slang? My dad used it routinely, and he was born in 1918, so I've never NOT heard the word used to refer to alcohol.

I heard it semi-routinely too, my dad being born in 1927. But I would imagine it’s become arcane slang by now.

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11 minutes ago, JSngry said:

You got me curious...is this now considered some kind of arcane slang? My dad used it routinely, and he was born in 1918, so I've never NOT heard the word used to refer to alcohol.

Yeah, I grew up with it too.  I've assumed it was a well-known term.

My Dad liked Jim Beam bourbon.  I like Jim Beam Pre-Prohibition rye.

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As I continue to become the oldest person in my current work environment, it has stopped surprising me how many common expressions of as little as 20 years ago now inspire a kind of collective "huh?"

I really think that the pervasiveness of (relatively speaking) insular digital communications has led to less general awareness of past slang....it used to be that you couldn't avoid it getting passed down/along just by it being in the air. Now, "in the air" seems to be more "on the phone"....you can't really control what comes into your air, but you can certainly control who comes into your phone.

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"Hooch" was famous enough still as a term in 1990s Britain to be used as the brand name for a dubious sweetened alcoholic drink that was definitely not aimed at schoolchildren. As a schoolchild myself in 1990s Britain, I was of course unaware of this drink at the time, and so could not have drunk it.

In terms of wider slang, I think there are always gaps. When I was a kid, the slang of the 1940s/50s was still commonly used (whether hip/beat slang like "cool" or palyari like "naff"); despite being decades out of date, everyone knew what it meant.  But slang from the 1930s like getting "tight" or 1970s like "to make" someone was unintelligible. I guess that the whole concept of hooch is now pretty antiquated and old timey.

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1 hour ago, JSngry said:

I hear corporate executives use "cool" in their corporate conversations, so "cool" is no longer cool, imo.

Do you remember the article in the 1990s, maybe Time or Newsweek, "If Everyone's Cool, Is Anyone Cool?"  It was in response to Miles Davis and Chet Baker being used in Gap commercials.  

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I have that book Mingus/Mingus Two Memories, I purchased it very soon after it was published, but I was disappointed with the way it was written. I  have 6  Mingus books, and still I think the best was the book written by Brian Priestley. Later the book by Gene Santoro appeared, but I think Priestley´s book was the first. 
Well, about Eggnogg, must be something with very very much calories. But Mingus looks like much calories....
I saw him in 1976 and he was very heavy but the music was great, most of all Sue´s Changes....

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