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LPs, though? 12 LPs?

Not interested, but apparently others are. Enjoy.

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They will all be a quarter tone sharp, I hope. :rolleyes:

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10 minutes ago, Daniel A said:

They will all be a quarter tone sharp, I hope. :rolleyes:

:D

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Bob Belden and David Weiss listened to these tapes and chose one take of each tune for the 3 CD set. Here is what is on the tapes:

Lee Morgan Quintet

Lee Morgan, trumpet, flugelhorn; Bennie Maupin, tenor sax, flute, bass clarinet; Harold Mabern, piano; Jymie Merritt, electric upright bass; Mickey Roker, drums.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, 1st set, July 10, 1970

  The Beehive rejected
  Something Like This Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8
  Yunjanna / Speedball (theme) rejected

* Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8   Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse

Lee Morgan Quintet

same personnel.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, 2nd set, July 10, 1970

  I Remember Britt Blue Note rejected
  Absolutions / Speedball (theme) -

Lee Morgan Quintet

same personnel.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, 3rd set, July 10, 1970

  Neophilia rejected
  416 East 10th Street Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8
  The Sidewinder / Speedball (theme) -

* Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8   Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse

Lee Morgan Quintet + Jack DeJohnette

Lee Morgan, trumpet, flugelhorn; Bennie Maupin, tenor sax, flute, bass clarinet; Harold Mabern, piano; Jymie Merritt, electric upright bass; Mickey Roker, drums #1,2; Jack DeJohnette, drums #3.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, 4th set, July 10, 1970

1. Peyote rejected
2. Ceora (incomplete) -
3. Speedball (theme) Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8

* Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8   Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse

Lee Morgan Quintet

Lee Morgan, trumpet, flugelhorn; Bennie Maupin, tenor sax, flute, bass clarinet; Harold Mabern, piano; Jymie Merritt, electric upright bass; Mickey Roker, drums.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, 1st set, July 11, 1970

  Aon Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8
  Yunjanna / Speedball (theme) rejected

* Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8   Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse

Lee Morgan Quintet

same personnel.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, 2nd set, July 11, 1970

  Something Like This rejected
  I Remember Britt Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8
  The Beehive / Speedball (theme) rejected

* Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8   Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse

Lee Morgan Quintet

same personnel.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, 3rd set, July 11, 1970

  Neophilia rejected
  Nommo Blue Note BST 89906

* Blue Note BST 89906, CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8   Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse

Lee Morgan Quintet

same personnel.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, 4th set, July 11, 1970

  Peyote rejected
  Absolutions Blue Note BST 89906

* Blue Note BST 89906, CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8   Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse

Lee Morgan Quintet

same personnel.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, 1st set, July 12, 1970

  Something Like This rejected
  Yunjanna Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8

* Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8   Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse

Lee Morgan Quintet

same personnel.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, 2nd set, July 12, 1970

  I Remember Britt Blue Note rejected
  Absolutions -

Lee Morgan Quintet

same personnel.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, 3rd set, July 12, 1970

  Neophilia Blue Note BST 89906
  The Beehive -

* Blue Note BST 89906, CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8   Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse

Lee Morgan Quintet

same personnel.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, 4th set, July 12, 1970

  Peyote Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8
  Nommo rejected

* Blue Note CDP 7243 8 35228 2 8   Lee Morgan - Live At The Lighthouse

Lee Morgan Quintet

same personnel.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, July, 1970

  Peyote Mercury (J) BT-5013; Trip Jazz TLX-5020; DJM DJLM 8007; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Ceora Trip Jazz TLX-5029; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Speedball -
  Willow Weep For Me Mercury (J) BT-5013; Trip Jazz TLX-5020; DJM DJLM 8007; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Meofelia Trip Jazz TLX-5020; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Rakin' And Scrapin' Trip Jazz TLX-5029; Mercury (J) BT-5014; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Umijanna DJM DJLM 8007; Trip Jazz TLX-5037; Mercury (J) BT-5014; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Something Like This Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Ceora DJM DJLM 8007; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Speedball / Theme Mercury (J) BT-5013; Trip Jazz TLX-5020; DJM DJLM 8007; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01

* Mercury (J) BT-5013   Lee Morgan - Speedball
* Trip Jazz TLX-5020   Lee Morgan - Speedball
* DJM DJLM 8007   Lee Morgan - All That Jazz
* Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01   Lee Morgan Quintet Live At The Lighthouse '70
* Trip Jazz TLX-5029   Lee Morgan - One Of A Kind
* Mercury (J) BT-5014   Lee Morgan - A Date With Lee
* Trip Jazz TLX-5037   A Day With Lee Morgan

Edited by bresna

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12 LPs, eh?

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The band played 4 sets per night; every set was under 45 minutes.

The Beehive x3
Something Like This x3
Yunjanna x3
Speedball (theme) x6
I Remember Britt x3
Absolutions x3
Neophilia x3
416 East 10th Street
The Sidewinder 
Peyote x3
Ceora (incomplete)

Aon
Nommo x2
 

The bootlegged tracks below, are these the same takes that were recorded on these same 3 nights? I highlighted the tracks not associated with the BN releases.

Lee Morgan Quintet

same personnel.

"The Lighthouse", Hermosa Beach, CA, July, 1970

  Peyote Mercury (J) BT-5013; Trip Jazz TLX-5020; DJM DJLM 8007; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Ceora Trip Jazz TLX-5029; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Speedball -
  Willow Weep For Me Mercury (J) BT-5013; Trip Jazz TLX-5020; DJM DJLM 8007; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Meofelia Trip Jazz TLX-5020; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Rakin' And Scrapin' Trip Jazz TLX-5029; Mercury (J) BT-5014; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Umijanna DJM DJLM 8007; Trip Jazz TLX-5037; Mercury (J) BT-5014; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Something Like This Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Ceora DJM DJLM 8007; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01
  Speedball / Theme Mercury (J) BT-5013; Trip Jazz TLX-5020; DJM DJLM 8007; Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01

* Mercury (J) BT-5013   Lee Morgan - Speedball
* Trip Jazz TLX-5020   Lee Morgan - Speedball
* DJM DJLM 8007   Lee Morgan - All That Jazz
* Fresh Sound (Sp) FSR-140/01   Lee Morgan Quintet Live At The Lighthouse '70
* Trip Jazz TLX-5029   Lee Morgan - One Of A Kind
* Mercury (J) BT-5014   Lee Morgan - A Date With Lee
* Trip Jazz TLX-5037   A Day With Lee Morgan

 

 

 

 

 

 

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It's past overkill and if this what Zev is bringing to BN then I am frankly annoyed and extremely disappointed. Maybe I'd be a tiny bit less disappointed if there weren't so G-D many takes of the same tunes but I still would never buy this or even begin to entertain the notion.

What about Mobley or other BN artists from the Left Bank tapes??  

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2 hours ago, Dan Gould said:

... but I still would never buy this or even begin to entertain the notion.

 

Not even it were released as a 45 rpm edition of 36 records?  Calling yourself a fan?!

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I thought that the tracks issued by others than BN which were purported to be from that Lighthouse gig had been determined to be from elsewhere on that same tour, San Francisco IIRC, right?  So the new tracks on the 12 LP version of Live @ the LH should be genuinely new...but I'm still not buying it if only so I can use that as my justification for buying whatever the heck else I want next year.

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Yeah, the Fresh Sound 2CD material was reportedly from a radio broadcast from the ‘Both/And’ in SF. Same tour.

Edited by sidewinder

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According to this post from David Weiss, it has not been established that the other material was from the Both/And, but it's more likely from the Lighthouse:

EDIT: Oh well, now I read the rest of the thread and I realize that was not the last word. Still an interesting thread, though. I had forgotten about all that discussion. 

Edited by Daniel A

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22 hours ago, JSngry said:

LPs, though? 12 LPs?

Not interested, but apparently others are. Enjoy.

ay caramba. Too much for me. 

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I might be tempted by a cd edition.

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40 minutes ago, jazzbo said:

I might be tempted by a cd edition.

Me too, CD only though.  But what I'd REALLY like to hear is Lee's band with Billy Harper live.  I know they did one TV appearance (which I can't remember if I've actually seen, or just heard) -- but I'm not sure how much of the band with Billy Harper got documented any any meaningful way.

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16 minutes ago, Rooster_Ties said:

Me too, CD only though.  But what I'd REALLY like to hear is Lee's band with Billy Harper live.  I know they did one TV appearance (which I can't remember if I've actually seen, or just heard) -- but I'm not sure how much of the band with Billy Harper got documented any any meaningful way.

+1!

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I found it hard to track down all of the James Moody sessions on Argo/Cadet. That may make a good set. I don't know how many of these sessions are currently available. 

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Just now, Hardbopjazz said:

I found it hard to track down all of the James Moody sessions on Argo/Cadet. That may make a good set. I don't know how many of these sessions are currently available. 

I’d go for that one in an instant !

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Moody is long overdue.

See if the Scepter record can get thrown in with it too.

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I'd be all over a Moody set too.  No question about it.

 

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Unfortunately, the Moody Argo/Cadet titles are easily available on one of those cheap 4-CD packages.  So that's probably a Mosaic non-starter.  

37 minutes ago, JSngry said:

See if the Scepter record can get thrown in with it too.

I wonder whether the Scepter jazz titles would make a coherent box.  How many are there?  I know there are a couple of Art Farmers.  I'm pretty sure Scepter is now owned by Warners.

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13 minutes ago, mjzee said:

Unfortunately, the Moody Argo/Cadet titles are easily available on one of those cheap 4-CD packages.  So that's probably a Mosaic non-starter.  

Yeah, but the music deserves the full "Mosaic Treatment" !!! 

Besides, I avoid those cheapo sets like the plague.  (Or at least I do most of the time! ;))  And I'm sure I'm not the only one.

 

13 minutes ago, mjzee said:

I wonder whether the Scepter jazz titles would make a coherent box.  How many are there?  I know there are a couple of Art Farmers.  I'm pretty sure Scepter is now owned by Warners.

I'm only aware of two Moody LPs with Scepter: Running the Gamut (in Moody's name) and Group Therapy (by the New York Jazz Sextet).  I have the former but not the latter.

 

Edited by HutchFan

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On 12/15/2020 at 2:35 PM, Pim said:

+1!

Yup.... and I would snap up unreleased Lee Morgan especially live... Is there any shot Mosaic is actually going to do this? 

On a related note, is the Vinyl Lee Morgan that's never made it to CD? 

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14 minutes ago, HutchFan said:

I'm only aware of two Moody LPs with Scepter: Running the Gamut (in Moody's name) and Group Therapy (by the New York Jazz Sextet).  I have the former but not the latter.

I have Group Therapy.  Farmer's also on it.  The other Farmer on Scepter is The Many Faces Of Art Farmer.  Was wondering if there were other similar titles.

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7 hours ago, HutchFan said:

I'd be all over a Moody set too.  No question about it.

 

Some damn good Moody on Muse, though not enough for a set.   Some nice Woody Shaw on Muse too.(I'm pondering the graphic possibilities of a pairing of those last names.)   I haven't shopped in years; is Muse stuff readily available?

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Mosaic did a box set of the Woody Shaw Muse sessions. I don't think the Moody Muse are easy to find in the wild, but like you I am not out there hunting.

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