JSngry Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 By 1949, a cultural plague was being piped into offices, train stations, and bus terminals: canned, generic background music. The brainchild of an Army general, the idea was pure packaged capitalism. The Muzak Corporation sold hundreds of businesses and cities on the promise that a wash of faint background music would increase productivity, quell boredom, and prevent people from skipping work. Cage hated it. It was just more proof that silence was going extinct... https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-story-behind-john-cage-s-4-33?utm_source=pocket-newtab Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
medjuck Posted July 15, 2019 Report Share Posted July 15, 2019 I like the jazz version. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 16, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2019 0'00''? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7/4 Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 I'd like to read No Such Thing as Silence*....planning on doing something about it. * Kyle Gann book. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 Is that a worthy read? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted July 18, 2019 Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 (edited) 17 minutes ago, JSngry said: Is that a worthy read? Haven't read it, but I expect so. When Gann was still active on the internet (used to blog, and his website when active was a big resource), I read several excerpts/drafts from the book in process, which he posted as written. I think Gann's one of the best commentators on contemporary music, though some might not agree with his advocacy of "totalism". Edited July 18, 2019 by T.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JSngry Posted July 18, 2019 Author Report Share Posted July 18, 2019 26 minutes ago, T.D. said: ... though some might not agree with his advocacy of "totalism". https://www.kylegann.com/postminimalism.html Not sure about that, I don't know enough to have an informed opinion. But the principle behind this thought strikes me as a cogent one, dealing as it does with music as evolution rather than photography: One could imagine that some future history of music will describe the period starting in the late 20th century as follows: "Our current musical language arose in the 1960s and '70s. In its nascent, simplistic state, it was at first mistaken for a full-blown style in itself, and was termed 'Minimalism'...." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T.D. Posted July 19, 2019 Report Share Posted July 19, 2019 (edited) A few weeks ago, I saw in a Woodstock art gallery a copy of the original concert program: Note that (as pointed out by Kyle Gann in link below) they botched 4'33" in the program! Interesting transcript of a talk by Gann on 4'33" here. The link at the top of this thread cites Gann. Edited July 19, 2019 by T.D. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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T.D. Posted August 1, 2020 Report Share Posted August 1, 2020 Online event! https://www.woodstockart.org/events/johncage-433-magnusson-benevento-larson/ Marco Benevento, Kay Larson, and Norm Magnusson John Cage’s 4’33” Virtual event Sat. August 29, time TBA | FREE Announcing the WAAM 10th Annual anniversary performance of John Cage’s 4’33” When: Saturday, August 29, 2020, 6:00pm Where: Streaming live from the Towbin Wing Gallery of the Woodstock Artists Association, viewable online through zoom link Featuring: the musical talents of Marco Benevento and the insights of Cage biographer Kay Larson. Produced by: Norm Magnussen The event will include a performance of 4’33, followed by a talk by Kay Larson. Marco Benevento will then pay [sic] some pieces of his own choosing. Cage’s piece had its world debut on August 29, 1952, in Woodstock, during a concert program produced by The Woodstock Artists Association. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shrdlu Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 It was written in Bb, but Miles played it in F. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster_Ties Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/19/2019 at 3:02 PM, Rooster_Ties said: . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry Kart Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 And Miles substituted his own, simpler bridge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teasing the Korean Posted August 2, 2020 Report Share Posted August 2, 2020 On 7/15/2019 at 5:10 PM, JSngry said: By 1949, a cultural plague was being piped into offices, train stations, and bus terminals: canned, generic background music. The brainchild of an Army general, the idea was pure packaged capitalism. The Muzak Corporation sold hundreds of businesses and cities on the promise that a wash of faint background music would increase productivity, quell boredom, and prevent people from skipping work. Cage hated it. It was just more proof that silence was going extinct... https://getpocket.com/explore/item/the-story-behind-john-cage-s-4-33?utm_source=pocket-newtab I LOVE the Muzak corporation, and I LOVE their stimulus progression theory. It is very David Cronenberg. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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