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Tubby Hayes - The Complete Fontana Albums (September 27, 2019)

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10 hours ago, romualdo said:

Currently listening to the CD box set - spectacular SQ - The live Ronnie Scott discs are  almost like being in the club - definitely my fav release of 2019. Also, I've got your book out again Simon & re-reading bits of it. Looks like some of the recording dates have been reassessed & changed.

Yes, since getting access to some of Tubby's work diaries I've been able to ascertain the correct dates, in particular the Costanzo and 'The Orchestra' sessions which were listed under the wrong dates in Barbara Schwarz's discography.

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Set arrived last night and I’ve just started listening. The booklet looks amazing after a quick skim-through—can’t wait to read it at length. And the sound on Tubbs is excellent (it’s playing right now) as I’m sure it will be across the whole of the set. Thank you so much, Simon, for helming this project. I have your Hayes biography and this will be added impetus to read it ASAP. 

This will be a no-brainer for a best-of-2020 roundup. (Yes, technically it came out in late 2019, but like the new Mobley and Herman Mosaics, I consider it 2020-eligible, given that all three collections were released so close to the end of the year, are just now being listened to, and haven’t really begun to receive any write-ups yet in the jazz media... at least that I’ve seen. I may well have missed some.) 

On 1/5/2020 at 3:25 PM, gmonahan said:

 Tubby reminds me of Sal Nistico (a favorite of mine) in his ability to move on fast tunes.

 

 

gregmo

That’s an interesting comparison—I can hear that! I was listening to a 1966 Woody Herman concert the other day and was reminded of how much I love Nistico’s playing with that band, especially on the uptempo numbers.

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I hear a heck of a lot of Stan Getz’s lyrical influence in Tubby’s playing - especially in the later period. Some Hank Mobley in there too. All part of the unique, personal mix that he put together.

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2 minutes ago, sidewinder said:

I hear a heck of a lot of Stan Getz’s lyrical influence in Tubby’s playing - especially in the later period. Some Hank Mobley in there too. All part of the unique, personal mix that he put together.

The Getz influence is certainly mentioned in Spillett's biography of Tubby. I don't recall if Tubby acknowledged it or whether Spillett just reads it into his analysis of Hayes's style, but the appeal of Getz's fluidity is remarked on.

6 hours ago, ghost of miles said:

Set arrived last night and I’ve just started listening. The booklet looks amazing after a quick skim-through—can’t wait to read it at length. And the sound on Tubbs is excellent (it’s playing right now) as I’m sure it will be across the whole of the set. Thank you so much, Simon, for helming this project. I have your Hayes biography and this will be added impetus to read it ASAP. 

This will be a no-brainer for a best-of-2020 roundup. (Yes, technically it came out in late 2019, but like the new Mobley and Herman Mosaics, I consider it 2020-eligible, given that all three collections were released so close to the end of the year, are just now being listened to, and haven’t really begun to receive any write-ups yet in the jazz media... at least that I’ve seen. I may well have missed some.) 

That’s an interesting comparison—I can hear that! I was listening to a 1966 Woody Herman concert the other day and was reminded of how much I love Nistico’s playing with that band, especially on the uptempo numbers.

Have you heard the lengthy discussion between Hayes and Nistico? Fascinating stuff! It's included in the Hayes Inventivity album.

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3 hours ago, BillF said:

The Getz influence is certainly mentioned in Spillett's biography of Tubby. I don't recall if Tubby acknowledged it or whether Spillett just reads it into his analysis of Hayes's style, but the appeal of Getz's fluidity is remarked on.

Have you heard the lengthy discussion between Hayes and Nistico? Fascinating stuff! It's included in the Hayes Inventivity album.

I’ll seek that out! Just finished listening to Tubbs In N.Y. from the Fontana box.

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4 hours ago, ghost of miles said:

I’ll seek that out! Just finished listening to Tubbs In N.Y. from the Fontana box.

such a pity they couldn't obtain those four extra tracks from the same sessions & add them to this definitive release

I've had to suffice with that 1990 Columbia CD - actually the only source I think (2 of the 4 were on the LP version)

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7 hours ago, ghost of miles said:

I’ll seek that out! Just finished listening to Tubbs In N.Y. from the Fontana box.

My favourite Hayes album!

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Tubby certainly acknowledged Getz' influence in several interviews.

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3 hours ago, SimonSpill said:

Tubby certainly acknowledged Getz' influence in several interviews.

I was impressed also that his listening list in hospital, as mentioned in your book, included Woody Shaw on cassette. I wonder what could have been - Blackstone Legacy?

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18 hours ago, sidewinder said:

I was impressed also that his listening list in hospital, as mentioned in your book, included Woody Shaw on cassette. I wonder what could have been - Blackstone Legacy?

Spot on.

Coltrane's 'Sun Ship', Joe Henderson's 'Tetragon', Sonny Rollins' 'Next Album', Stan Getz' playing Bacharach compositions, some CTI Freddie Hubbard, a bit of Joe Farrell and Zoot Sims playing 'Applecore' with the Mulligan Concert Jazz Band were among the things he was listening to on cassette in hospital at the end.

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Thanks for that. Fascinating - listening to the last (electrified) session on the Ian Hamer ‘Acropolis’ you can hear some of that influence on the overall vibe. Maybe Alan Branscombe was also listening to George Cables !

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